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Investment LAVILE KUALA LUMPUR, The changing landscape of Maluri

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post Apr 5 2022, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(cindylim123 @ Apr 5 2022, 02:56 AM)
Lavile KL is 1200 units, where did you get 1278 units?

1200/3.79 = 316 units

Usually land next to MRT and freehold more expensive too...
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Don’t be a retard. SA usually round up or down figures. Reference official development data yea.

Look at big picture stuff not the minute details though it’s still important to get down to the nitty gritty when your capital is on the line.

There’s no point defending the indefensible. This development was horridly overpriced to begin with and the earlier buyers are now screwed with heavy discounts being offered now to offload units.
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post Apr 5 2022, 09:00 AM

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post Apr 5 2022, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Timmy Tan @ Apr 5 2022, 09:33 AM)
She is the one that started comparing density in terms of number of units over land size, but she uses the wrong data. I do believe that overall, Lavile is better than M Vertica as it is freehold and slightly nearer to Velocity, Aeon and MRT, but whether that justifies the premium pricing is up to each individual and the timing of buying.

If you want to talk about competition for rental, I believe Lavile will also compete with V Residence, UNA, Amaya Maluri, Platinum Mira and to a certain extent, M Vertica itself. How much more tenants are willing to pay to stay in Lavile over M Vertica is anyone's guess at this moment.
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Yea I find it funny that she was attacking others or defending the development rather with incorrect data. Quite amateurish.

I agree with u that Lavile may be better overall qualititatively but the price... Looks like they were riding on Velocity’s 1k psf pricing but timing is off.

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post Apr 5 2022, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mahao @ Apr 5 2022, 01:19 PM)
Dont fight dont fight... there is no perfect project, everyone likes different things and have different budget.. chill yall
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It’s not a fight. It’s correcting facts. I think the main point of these forums is to present facts for a buyer to make an informed decision before plunging into a very big purchase where mistakes can be very costly. Personal opinion comes from whether the project is worth it after all facts have been presented accurately.

Quantitative facts like the density, built up, price etc can’t be disputed. Then it’s not hard to contrast with neighbouring developments to make a conclusion.

Qualitative facts like if it’s a reban ayam, view, convenience etc can be taken with a grain of salt.
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post Apr 8 2022, 11:32 AM

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In other words, when there’s such a disparity of price in various sales phases then lelongs will occur en masse.
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post Apr 25 2022, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(kiasulah @ Apr 25 2022, 01:06 PM)
After doing the comparison, Lavile KL seems like one of the better choices....at least they got the intention to keep the house in premium condition, my agent told me they did not allow leases out to the blue collar.

Not sure is it discrimination against blue-collar ...haha
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Inclusitivity is the word of the day now. There can’t be inherently discriminatory language on advertising. It is still well within a landlords right to accept or reject a tenant. It just can’t be blatantly so.
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post Jul 11 2022, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jun 28 2022, 03:32 PM)
Not just lavile, the whole Maluri also price war
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Be interesting to recap how many developments/units have been built since Cheras was designated as the new darling spot like 10 years ago?

There will always be a domino effect in supply and demand but I think it coincided with allowing developers to build a lot more dense which has caused the oversupply.
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post Jul 11 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jul 11 2022, 02:52 PM)
There's another township development with offices by jakel next to sunway Velocity, the land with the dbkl storeroom.
It'd change the entire demand of Maluri if it's a success.

But anyway that's maybe like 30 to 50 years later, that dbkl store is still there and with the oversupply of offices now, not wise to pump so much offices also.
In the meantime, it's rental war and rental subsidy for tenants hahaha

https://jakeldevelopment.com/projects/lot-16/
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Seriously if one needs 30 years to see roi then it’s not an investment.
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post Jul 12 2022, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Jul 12 2022, 11:43 AM)
Pass down to anak and cucu hahaha
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I predict an event horizon and we’ll all be living on Mars so all our little crappy units can get hit by meteors.
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post Aug 25 2022, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Aug 25 2022, 06:36 AM)
Lobby is impressive....but now I wonder the quoted maintenance fee enough to operate in long term?....
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1.2k+ units over less than 4 acres of land. It’s dense enough to be sustainable. Technically denser than M Vertica.
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post Aug 25 2022, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(cindylim123 @ Aug 25 2022, 08:22 AM)
Lol... M Vertica agent come promote again...

Are you dumb? Leasehold vs freehold?
Premium land (nearest to MRT, center of Maluri) vs HTC land?

Don't make joke here please!
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Get a life Miss Cindy. I’m actually pointing out a positive attribute of Lavile’s density which is low and sustainable management fees.

Learn to Engrish ya.

Good lord, Orando must be paying peanut shells for their SAs.

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post Aug 25 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(cindylim123 @ Aug 25 2022, 08:30 AM)
Don't so jealous on people!
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But I am dear Cindy. I admire your single mindedness and utter disregard of facts to promote whatever it is you’re selling.

Maybe you can learn a thing or two for your next sale by deflecting concerns about density with quoting lower management costs.
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post Aug 25 2022, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Timmy Tan @ Aug 25 2022, 09:46 AM)
Hi Cindy, before accusing someone, at least do your homework and check Cavatzu's past posts please. If there is a project which he clearly supports, it is Sunway Belfield and not M Vertica.
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Yes I’m just a very bored and unemployed ah pek.

Cindy, would you take me on as your intern? I have much to learn from you.

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Aug 25 2022, 10:45 AM)
no use engaging her bro. These kinds of agents are the ones that only sell for their own com. Once VP or in bad times, they will say bye bye. Nothing constructive will come from their ilk.
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There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m just confused why some SAs are seemingly illiterate. I thought communication skills were a key requirement of the job. Instead we get a jumbled mess of a troll. Malaysia really boleh.
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QUOTE(cindylim123 @ Aug 25 2022, 01:19 PM)
Where i got many account?
I not same you, open many account comment here🤣

Ok la... Best is M Vertica! I want buy 1 unit from you, can? M Vertica agent?

No need every day come here jump in conversation to subo without talking by fact, without comparing with corrent land title and location 😅

Not all people wiling to walk for 1km, to take mrt.

Lavile is target different market, they selling different product, they use imported European made tiles and materials. Better study product first, rather than shooting like a child.

If you want talk about density, you can check UNA.... 1 acre for 800 plus unit. Why still can sell so high price?

Because quality material, prime land... All is about how closer to MRT station! How closer to the malls!
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It’s 316 units on about 1 acre for Una dear Cindy. Looks like you need an assistant to do some research for you. Happy to help.

You seem to have your knives out for the cheaper alternatives of units in this area ie. M Vertica and Mira. Why la?

If your project is as classy as you say then it should sell itself. It would help if you conduct yourself as an agent befitting a luxury development. As it stands, I’m just getting Pasar vibes.

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QUOTE(xlss @ Aug 25 2022, 04:42 PM)
lolx...cavatzu so free argue in another project thread again

if people don't agree with you then just let it be. why waste time and effort whistling.gif
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What did I do? I don’t really give opinions beyond the obvious. I’m pretty factual most of the time and just add my 2 cents as I come across them with a healthy dose of sarcasm.
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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Aug 25 2022, 06:30 PM)
This Cindy ah.. even if is not an agent is as sly as the worst of them. How come UNA acerage can keep 2 sf but Lavile roundoff to 1?

For the audience here who would like precise calculation, Lavile density calculation is

1278/3.79= 337 units per acre

Hence Lavile is MORE dense than UNA. This is FACT. If you want to argue this please go back to school first to brush up your BASIC maths.
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When you put them all together, it gives you a fairly clear picture of the Maluri area where they generally are in excess of 300 units per acre. They are all equally dense!

No wonder residents are protesting so hard.
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post Sep 7 2022, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(cindylim123 @ Sep 7 2022, 04:02 PM)
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Giant Water Fountain testing!
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Woa Cindy can’t believe you’re not a SA. But it’s all pretty.
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post Sep 12 2022, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(abcheers @ Sep 12 2022, 12:04 AM)
wonder those expecting good view but in future going to face Mira one how ya? nothing can be done... blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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Consolation is they get maybe 1 or 2 years of unblocked view before falling into darkness. Then tenants can really bargain down the rent. I would equate it with a 20-30% drop in the rental and correspondingly the market value.
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post Sep 13 2022, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Sep 13 2022, 01:07 AM)
i almost forgot they still need to face the construction noise literally less than 10meters from their house for 4 years
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Ah yes then it will be almost unlivable from the start. Predict these ones will Lelong first.

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