QUOTE(Kelv @ Apr 15 2016, 01:01 PM)
Not bad for a budget air con.Aircon Discussion V3, Home Appliance
Aircon Discussion V3, Home Appliance
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Apr 16 2016, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Apr 16 2016, 07:12 PM) For the price........ A little expensive. Hot air got window or toilet to blow out? Drainage got place to discharge? |
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Apr 16 2016, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 16 2016, 07:56 PM) In the Malaysia market, York today has no relationship to Daikin today. Yup. No relationship. But we still able to get parts for the old model of York at Daikin. Haha. Just design is familiar but until today. All design and package are all different.Stop spreading inaccurate bull. |
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Apr 23 2016, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(Justice_Sword @ Apr 21 2016, 08:54 PM) Please beware when using this company for aircon, water plumbing, rooftop, electrical service: Perkhxdmatan Hup Yat Nothing special. Many those who are not professional are doing these method. That's why find a shop who only does air con not plumbing electrical or whatever. A proper overhaul a unit is not like this. Because of these type of lousy servicing making air con marketing in Malaysia look so unprofessional.Handphone: Ah Lai 012-287644x Evon 012-687204x Office Tel: 03-4270 709x I asked them to wash 1.5HP Inverter aircon. They said the RM160.00 price is all-in inclusive with gas (coolant), After they washed, they said already add 2 bar gas, need RM40 extra, so become RM200. I was not happy with this, I called them, they said since when I promise to give you RM160 inclusive of gas? I said you told me this in telephone. They didn't dismantle the aircon, they only wash the casing, and put chemical and splash the outdoor unit with water. less than 40 minutes in total. I asked them why didn't you dismantle the aircon to wash? They said if always dismantle, the aircon is prone to malfunction. I told them many people outside also dismantle the aircon to wash. If only splash water like this, outside only collects RM100.00. He said I have my price standard. I told him this is not logic excuse. The female boss said to me maybe you only use the aircon for first year, you dun have knowledge. I asked her, you see the aircon downstair, is it possible I only begin to use the aircon? or the first time I find people to wash aircon? She changed the topic. The male boss said RM40 is small amount, I dun want to argue with you. I only collect you RM160 enough. I told him, this is not the money problem. This is related to whether it is logic or not. You din dismantle the aircon, you refill 2 bars (This upstair aircon has only 1 year history) and then you charge me extra, before you said RM160 is all in unless the gas are almost all gone. He said, dismantle the aircon to wash is antique method. He is using latest Singapore technology. In Malaysia rarely have people use. I said yaloh, rarely have people only splash the water and charge RM160.00. I asked him, you only splash the water from outside is cleaner, or you dismantle it and splash it from everywhere is cleaner? He said new technology is 100% same with dismantle method. Dismantle the aircon to do deep cleaning is sakai method. You dun know aircon. Many sakai outside also dun know aircon. I said Yes, I dun know aircon, but I know market price. He said he doesn't want to talk with me anymore. He said you pay RM160 and this is settled. I dun want to talk with you. I said, boss, you cannot do business in this way. If like that, I wont give business to you anymore. He said you give me I also dun dare to accept lah. I have plenty of businesses to do. Very busy. You only wash 1 aircon, not 100 aircons. This RM40 I give you. Then the conversation ended. This is typical bait and switch. bait-and-switch noun the action (generally illegal) of advertising goods that are an apparent bargain, with the intention of substituting inferior or more expensive goods. "a bait-and-switch scheme" |
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Apr 24 2016, 12:07 AM
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Apr 25 2016, 05:03 PM
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Apr 25 2016, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(panafone @ Apr 24 2016, 03:14 PM) A contractor quoted me this: terrible pricing...1) upah pasang 1.5hp inverter = rm 481.00 normal 10 kaki paip. Jika tambah paip 1kaki rm 35.00 Jika paip kena tanam dlm simen harga lain. 2) upah pasang 1.5hp aircond biasa. rm 364.00 normal 10 kaki. Tambahan paip 1 kaki rm25.00. kalau paip tanam dlm simen harga lain. 3) upah pasang 1 hp aircond biasa back to back 10 kaki rm 312.00 tambah paip rm 25.00 kalau paip tanam dlm simen harga lain. Is this right? Seems so expensive. standard upah pasang should be around 200 - 250 for 1.0 and 1.5 B2B rm312 is too terrible. |
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Apr 25 2016, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Apr 25 2016, 11:15 AM) probably will do a aircond relocation, non inverter, hose conceal. better you change to a thicker mm piping for future use. if you use a inverter piping on a non inverter air con also no problem. because is concealed you might need a future planing on this. better to get a thicker piping for future. cause malaysia start stop selling R22 Possible to change to inverter type hose and use back the aircond? so it is ready for inverter in future. |
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Apr 26 2016, 09:58 PM
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huhuhu!!! Urut-Sarah damage about 5000+++
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Apr 27 2016, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(hfzwhb90 @ Apr 28 2016, 08:32 AM) Hello guys, my aircond guy quoted for installation (including piping wiring) RM650 for 1.5hp panasonic inverter r410 and RM500 for 1.0hp panasonic inverter r410 which seems too expensive compared from what u guys mentioned. 200 - 250 is a standard installation. Max also go up to 280 for 1.0hp/1.5hp.What does this 200-250 mentioned consist of? I was told that r410 uses a thicker copper pipe hence more expensive. Can anyone share w me a good aircond installer, condo is at segambut dalam, kl. Appreciate sifus input The installation is include 10feet copper piping, 10feet drain pipe and drill 1 hole. Wiring will take from the nearest plug point and clip with cable clip. Very very standard style. Exceeding piping cost rm20 per feet. |
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May 8 2016, 04:03 PM
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May 8 2016, 04:19 PM
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And for the argument in this thread. As everyone wish what is need to be tested for inverter and non inverter. I will gladly solve for you guys. Perhaps some video and pictures to proof the myth of how to save current. I know who's right or wrong. But still keep silence as I don't want more arguments. I have the tools for current caculation. Using amp meter can't prove much. Cheers guys!
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May 9 2016, 10:51 PM
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May 10 2016, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ May 10 2016, 03:07 AM) Fujiaire vs LG air con? Fuji electric = Fujitsu = Generalcurrently torn between the 2, please help, welcome to suggest other alternative, Hisence etc... 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5hp I heard LG air con are made in Korea and their compressors are bigger, compared to Fujiaire? Is fujiaire made in China? Is Fujiaire actually Fuji Japan? or is it an imitation like Panasonic (Japan) vs Pansonic (Malaysia)? Can only find Fujiaire in Malaysia Fujiair (not Fujiaire)= Fuji Japan? any in Malaysia market? Local prices suggest that LG is cheaper then Fujiaire? Whats the market price of instillation for a typical 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5hp? are copper piping different size for the above? how much per feet is instillation on a typical 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5hp? unit? Fujiaire is fujiaire = China brand. Cannot compare with Japan Panasonic = National National = Panasonic parts from Japan is just produce at Malaysia/Thailand |
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May 10 2016, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ May 10 2016, 08:28 PM) Has anyone installed the new Panasonic Sky series inverter airconditioner? please beware of using R22 pipe line as if anything happen to your new ac the distributor will blame on the installer perhaps you.Any review? Also, if my current airconditioner is non- inverter, will there be any problem if I were to install an inverter without replacing the existing copper piping? I was told that the existing copper piping has to be cleaned first. By right. a thicker copper pipe is recommended to hold more pressure for the R410 refrigerant. if your piping is exposed then is better to get it replaced. if you worry to do hacking job on your existing concealed piping then sorry to say.. you dont install an inverter. old pipe line need to flush down to clean the oil inside the pipe. if is not fully clean compressor might have mix up with different oil then have "chocking" issues. |
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May 10 2016, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Freakystein @ May 10 2016, 11:17 PM) Just curious, since we are on the piping discussion. Possible to use a 1.5 hp ac on a 1hp inverter piping? I know its not recommended if its 1.5 hp inverter to 1 hp inverter, but since inverter using thicker piping, can it support the non inverter 1.5 hp? 1.5 piping match back with 1.5, 1.0 match with 1.0YES = inverter piping can use on non inverter air con and inverter NO = non inverter piping cannot use on inverter |
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May 11 2016, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ May 11 2016, 05:42 AM) Thanks for all your help guys if you want go for budget air con try look for TCL air con. i personally find out is not bad for budget. and the unit is running R410 refrigerant. this brand is top 3 at China.Im helping my brother to sources some aircon, he is getting about 5 units in various sizes, reason I said LG was it seems very cheap, actually cheaper then Fujiaire ? My bro got a lump sum cost from his friend, is its hard to determine the actual cost of the Fujiaire unit cost only, But generally is Fujiaire cheaper then Haier, Hisence, Midea? cheaper by RM100-200? My bro later saw a shop was advertising RM1220 - LG 1.5hp non inverter, no installation Looks like the conclusion from forum members is not to use LG or Fujiaire Budget AC use Hairer/Hisense/Midea ? Next step up would be Daikin or Panasonic basic models? Please help me to decide on what to get by providing some general pricing. if a brand is slightly more expensive eg RM100-200 but more reliable, has cheaper parts, or easy sourced parts, long term ongoing cost etc... its considered a good buy. For budget what are the rough cost for non inverter, exclude installation. HAIER 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00?? HAIER 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00?? HAIER 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00?? Hisense 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00?? Hisense 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00?? Hisense 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00?? Midea 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00?? Midea 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00?? Midea 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00?? Is Acsson even considered a good budget aircon? What about something better like -Daikin or Panasonic basic models -non inverter, exclude installation. Daikin 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00?? Daikin 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00?? Daikin 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00?? Panasonic 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00?? Panasonic 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00?? Panasonic 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00?? |
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May 14 2016, 08:11 PM
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May 14 2016, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 14 2016, 02:42 PM) quality inverter piping will written some words on it. and notice theres a thickness of 0.61 written there. and thats the inverter piping. depends on your installer. some cheapskate air con man will use lousy quality copper and charge skyhigh. my best of choice is Medtube. Good quality copper. by holding it you cant tell is inverter piping. the thickness you can compare is at the copper tip. if you scare he cheat you then ask him to compare the thickness. just act you like a dumb freak try to know some knowledge. This post has been edited by weng-aircon: May 14 2016, 08:16 PM |
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