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post Sep 25 2023, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 23 2023, 07:03 AM)
For living room esp open space design with dining and kitchen, buy non invertor.

Invertor doesn't help to save energy bill.

Brand is individual preference.

I have also considered Daikin early this year but decided to follow Mitsubishi. 😀
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small rooms should use inverter
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post Sep 25 2023, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(pigduck @ Sep 25 2023, 09:17 PM)
I have seen electricity spikes since Aug. Scenario:

1. A 1hp AC drain clogged in late Aug - washed it out and the AC doesn't leak anymore - but I set the AC temp lower and put fan speed at 3
2. A 2hp AC drain clogged in mid-Sep - washed it out and the AC doesn't leak anymore - but the fan speed was set to 3 at end of Aug

I am thinking of increasing the temperature on these 2 ACs but keeping the fan speed at 3.

How will this affect the energy consumption @voscar ?

And how will this affect the cooling if it gets clogged? I noticed that ACs get clogged when your filter is clogged. The filter catches the large dirt but the finer dirt gets through and clogs the coils.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 26 2023, 12:07 PM)
Fixed speed compressor, as long as outdoor compressor running at fixed speed, consume same amount of electricity.

So lowering temperature making the compressor non-stop will be consuming more. If you set 28-29c on which the compressor stops when the desired temperature reach, then you could save a little (compressor starts up will draw a little higher starting current)
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I think this is the only way to get @voscar. I have a question - see my post.

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1. I noticed that the finer dirt that clogs the coils cause the drains to grow mold quicker and clog the drain
2. The electricity spike I see if from these 2 ACs where I upped the fan speed to 3 - I set it at 22 at fan speed 3 but now I am thinking of setting the 1hp to 24 fan speed 3 and the 2hp to 23 fan speed 3

The electricity spike is a lot. It can spike by 5kwh extra per day

My question is, will the rooms still feel cold? They are both clean now using a lot more electricity and I don't know why. You would think cleaning them will reduce power consumption. I think setting it to fan speed 3 is the problem with low temperature. So if I up the temperature but keep at fan speed 3 will it still be OK?

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post Sep 25 2023, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(lankorn @ Sep 25 2023, 10:29 PM)
Why you say so?
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I think the open and larger space means the inverter will be redundant because there's just too many places where the air will become warm again so the inverter will run at a constant speed hence why getting a non-inverter works better.

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post Sep 26 2023, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(kelissa @ Aug 27 2023, 11:22 AM)
Hi all,
Anyone has experience using the Haier 1HP HSU-10VQA22? I have the following question to ask.
1. The turbo function will not turn off automatically after 30 minute. Last I tried letting it run for 45 minutes and it's still on turbo. Is this normal behaviour for this model?
2. During turbo, the AC doesn't seem to run at lower temp, just the fan running at full speed. Means I have to adjust temp to cool down the room faster and then set back to usual 25C.
Is there any setting in the AC to change this function? I can't find the service manual on Haier's website.
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Did you see lower electricity bills with this Haier model?
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post Sep 26 2023, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 26 2023, 09:26 PM)
He probably has a wifi 20A switch connected to his ac.

LG ac with wifi has live power draw ontop of monitoring. Samsung app only can monitor without live power draw.

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Very good energy consumption. Only 0.17kwh
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post Oct 9 2023, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(kelissa @ Oct 7 2023, 10:21 PM)
I do not have other brand AC to do comparison, but this one definitely better than my previous wall mounted AC in terms of electric usage. My electric bill for the past 2 months it only increase by 20+ rm with both AC running like 20 out of 30 days in a month. Im running between 25 to 27 celcius, 6 to 8 hours at a time.
Also keep in mine Sarawak Energy tariff cheaper compared to TNB.
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This month and last month I feel it's been hot or something. The AC have been drinking AC. Even after self cleaning the coils and filters, still using lots of electricity.

Also I noticed even though we use water to clean the coils they still have a layer of dirt. I used a cloth to wipe and there was a layer of dirt. How?

I wonder if it's low on refrigerant. One of my ACs, that room is always quite problematic the AC now is freezing up even after cleaning. The air coming out isn't cool but I see ice on the pipe behind the coils. I don't know if it is the AC or the refrigerant line that is problematic.
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post Oct 11 2023, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(pigduck @ Oct 9 2023, 04:46 PM)
This month and last month I feel it's been hot or something. The AC have been drinking AC. Even after self cleaning the coils and filters, still using lots of electricity.

Also I noticed even though we use water to clean the coils they still have a layer of dirt. I used a cloth to wipe and there was a layer of dirt. How?

I wonder if it's low on refrigerant. One of my ACs, that room is always quite problematic the AC now is freezing up even after cleaning. The air coming out isn't cool but I see ice on the pipe behind the coils. I don't know if it is the AC or the refrigerant line that is problematic.
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1. I changed the problematic 2015 Daikin 1hp R22 model. It was 2 stars and based on the energy rating, it was 2739kwh/year.
2. Changed to 2023 Panasonic cs-pn9wkh-1 R22 1hp.
3. The technician said that the Daikin 1hp R22 model probably reached its life span and is not because of leaking refrigerant. We serviced it in Sep 2022 and then in Aug 2023 it was leaking. Something about the electricals and evaporator coils affecting the airflow. Even though I cleaned it but it was still not cold. Then over the 1 month, it was drinking electricity. I think from 7kwh to 10 kwh a day. It was also freezing and then dripping water with condensation at the air vents.
4. Do you think the haze is causing the ACs to use more electricity? Even with the rain and cool nights, my ACs are drinking electricity

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post Oct 15 2023, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 14 2023, 04:09 PM)
Speaking of pinhole leak, it was scary experience and not able to detect normally...

Last year my 4 years old Panasonic 1.5hp inverter I complain not so cold, earlier that year compressor would run full speed for 5 mins then slowed down to almost non existent, after 5 mins recovers back itself and repeat the cycle, can only use low speed fan mode not stress the compressor.

Then few months later start showing signs not cold, the authorized technician came and said the gas pressure too high, I think 190psi something, but we never add any refrigerant and i recall the technician also didn't add when installing this unit new at that time. So he releases the gas pressure back to 150psi but no longer cooling, so proceed to replace compressor under warranty. But with standard 150 psi pressure, the cooling performance still not up to expectation, so ask him come again to check he increases to 170 psi, which was good cooling.

Earlier this year, aircond start not cooling again, so that same shop another technician came. This time the pressure found dropped to 120 psi, so he increases to 170 psi back to normal. He explain it seems the aircond have pinhole leak somewhere, that takes a few months only drop slightly, not easy to detect... if want to check, the inspection fee alone I think 300 bucks if not mistaken, that doesn't include part replacement. He also said 1.5hp seems underpowered for my living room, that's why have to increases the pressure higher than standard 150psi to get the correct cooling, this theory legit kah?

Sure enough, after 3 months again the AC not cooling, this time straight replace a new one with 2hp.
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so these pinhole leaks happen near the AC unit or compressor? Not along the copper pipe from compressor to unit?
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post Oct 30 2023, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(borgyang @ Oct 26 2023, 09:00 PM)
Hi guys, I just collected the key from my new condo today. FYI, I'm renting the unit to the tenant, not for self-use. I'm looking to buy 3 x Standard Non-Inverter R32 Air Conditioner for my unit.

Living Room - 2.0 HP
Master Bedroom - 1.0 HP
Bedroom 1 - 1.0 HP

I need some recommendations to get a cheap and reliable air conditioner. My main concern is the price and quality. Do you guys usually get them from big retail chain stores like Senheng and Harvey Norman? Or you guys got lobang can get a lower price online from Shopee/Lazada or from a smaller contractor company?

By the way, how are those China's brands (Haier, Midea, Hisense, Gree, CHiQ etc.) doing in the market now? Any bad reviews from the users? Thanks in advance!
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I think you will be fine with non-inverters. They are easier to maintain. Perhaps get the Panasonic ones. Not as many buttons and features. Plain and easy. Parts are made in Malaysia.

Best to buy from the AC people that will be servicing your ACs. Give them some money.
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post Dec 9 2023, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Dec 9 2023, 09:50 PM)
Been using my Panasonic 1.5hp inverter for the past 9 years. Lately, i would say for the past 1 years there is massive water dripping out fr the blower. The aircond is cold tho.

Everytime after i serviced, there is no water dripping but it only lasts for 3-4 mths then the problem came back.

1 technician said my aircond is spoilt n piping was not done properly. He suggested i change to a new aircond n try. If it doesnt work, then redo the piping.

Another technician said my aircond is dirty so have to service regularly.

Any thoughts?
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The AC life span is over. Change it. My service guy told me it has something to do with pinhole leaks in the AC copper or coils
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post Jan 24 2024, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 21 2024, 02:45 AM)
That’s me. I’m cheap. Hisense basic 1hp non inverter. Cold AF.

I have a mix of inverters and non inverters for different spaces and use cases. Guest room use few times a year no need inverter. Likewise for living room open space also I don’t need it.

Depending on how many total AC in the house. Buying basic AC and saving the funds and invest in solar is better long term. But for own bedroom sleeping I always advocate “overpowered” inverter for comfort. And buy a cheap Bluetooth logging thermometer with humidity level will help in understanding how to best set your own AC schedule. My AC always timer off at 4am when ambient temp drop to its lowest.
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How do we best set it with a thermometer humidity level sensor?
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post Feb 21 2024, 10:42 PM

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I noticed my electricity has been a lot recently. I don't know why I bother when we put the AC to the highest fan speed but the AC's roller area was quite dirty when I washed it today. Hopefully this helps to reduce the electricity. It was black. Do you think that's dirt or mold? I feel the AC service people don't like to take out the roller because it's hard to put back.
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QUOTE(Benefon @ Feb 21 2024, 10:56 PM)
Panasonic or daikin?
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I have both and Mitsubishi. 2 x R32 Panasonic, 1 x R410a Daikin, 1 Mitsubishi Mr Slim but.also very old.

Right now my electricity is higher than before I changed the 2 x R32. I suspect it's the Mitsubishi and 1.5 Panasonic because both at highest fan speed. Last time was at medium before Aug ... but I don't know.

The ones I cleaned today
2hp Mitsubishi non - dirtiest even though did simple service in Oct and washed roller in Oct
1.5 R32 Panasonic non - pretty dirty even though service person took out whole unit to wash
1.0 R32 Panasonic non
1.0 Daikin non - very dirty but didn't clean since July

Even before this when I never clean the rollers the electricity was never so high like now.

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post Feb 22 2024, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Feb 22 2024, 12:12 AM)
If you’re prefer energy saving, should install R32 inverter instead.
Non inverter input watts are fixed.
Inverter is variable from 250w to 900w full load base on 1hp.
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R32 is supposed to save 10-15%
But somehow, something is wrong somewhere. I suspect it's the Mitsubishi.
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post Feb 22 2024, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Feb 22 2024, 03:12 PM)
Much cooling, unless the installer did't do a proper way from installation.
Basically R32 must be use vacumm pump to clean up before runing the compressor gas.
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I highly.doubt they did that.
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post Feb 22 2024, 06:51 PM

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It's cool just not saving $

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post Feb 27 2024, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Feb 27 2024, 02:35 PM)
Would be equally to Midea or hisense.
Midea and hisense selling Rm800 for non inverter to compare with AUX selling Rm800 ++ is offer for inverter.
Should try new , since the price range is about there and 3 of them under china

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I'd get the AUX.

Also how is everyone's inverter AC performing during this heat wave? What is your energy consumption like?

My non-inverters are using a lot of electricity.
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post Feb 27 2024, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Feb 27 2024, 08:31 PM)
1hp inverter vs non.
Inverter Rm150 monthly vs non Rm200++
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Oh not that much different.... although if looked at per year, can save RM600

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post Oct 9 2024, 12:05 PM

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I am looking at my energy consumption and wondering

1. Does weather play a very big part in how much energy our Acs consume?
2. Can TNB push more electricity to us without singing our electrical appliances?


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