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blanket84
post Nov 24 2020, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(JayzKmarz @ Nov 20 2020, 08:19 AM)
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I bought mine from Cooling Solutions Sdn Bhd through whatsapp sweat.gif

The price was cheaper than average online price, and most importantly they are an authorized Panasonic Dealer.
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post Dec 7 2020, 05:07 PM

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I saw my AC installer installed my AC today. I saw inside the indoor unit there is a big piece of polystyrene. Is that part supposed to be removed before installation, or it is part of the indoor unit?
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post Dec 9 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Dec 9 2020, 11:01 PM)
Is yours a cassette unit? I have seen some pieces of polystyrene in cassette units before but don't be recall seeing them inside smaller indoor units.
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It’s a normal wall indoor unit.
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post Dec 10 2020, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Dec 9 2020, 11:12 PM)
Have to be careful. Polystyrene is flammable. I have seen an Acson cassette unit go up in flames and burnt kaw2. Fire was only put out by 2 fire extinguishers.
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Yeah. Not to mention R32 refrigerant is also flammable. I guess I will have to email panasonic and ask why is there polystyrene in their air conditioner.
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post Dec 10 2020, 12:09 AM

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Anyone can tell me what was wrong with this installation? Why the gap between the wall and the unit is so huge? sweat.gif

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post Dec 10 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 10 2020, 02:38 AM)
If it's taped on or movable then it should be removed.
This is to prevent crush crush crush damage to the fins as the AC IDU packaging is just a slip on cover, with foam end caps. The middle of the package is very susceptible to crush damage to the fins. Hence if got good deal from retail outlet I prefer to bring the AC home myself. Almost all the AC bought online needed fixing of the fins especially the ODU, using fin comb.
The main suspects for excessive gap will be the last part of drain pipe and/or copper pipes jutting out too much from the wall causing the AC to be pushed out at an angle. Usually the gap is only a small amount like typically 6-10 mm gap at most. The AC is hung up using the metal plate right at the top sections, so it could also mean the trench for those pipes weren't deep enough. You can try to troubleshoot which is causing the issue by shining a light in to the gap and record with phone camera using the other hand.
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The polystyrene part was screwed on the indoor unit itself. At the back where the trench for the copper tubing is.

My contractor giving excuse that because I ask him to do individual insulation for the copper tubing, the gap become larger. But then why the gap at the top is also larger than usual?
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post Dec 12 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 12 2020, 03:37 AM)
Since small bedroom may be overcooled (hence the AC on off on off cycle happen often) better get inverter for frequent use.
If only on like 10 times a year, no need inverter as hardly in use.
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Agree. I use non-inverter for my house but we only set the temperature to be at >26oC causing the compressor to on and off so often. Changed the capacitor once for each AC 3-4 years back. Staying here for 8 years already.
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post Feb 7 2021, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 6 2021, 08:52 PM)
To answer your question, if you use it at reasonable temperature, 25-27C, yes inverter at partial load (low rpm) is saving power rather than 0_1_0_1 pattern of NON inverter.
And less stuffy feeling since its actively running slowly to maintain the target temperature say 25C and since the aircon is actively running, excess humidity is always being drawn out.

Without the inverter (gearbox) the only way to control the temperature, for NON inverter is on/off compressor only.
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I agree with this. I am one of those who likes to set the AC at 25-26oC, and after using inverter AC for 1 month plus, I could vouch that inverter AC is super comfortable when operating in that range. Unlike non-inverter which cools down below the set temperature, stop and wait until the room temperature increase again and restart.
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post Feb 9 2021, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(wira1979 @ Feb 9 2021, 11:05 AM)
Was hoping to get some feedback in relation to AC size. This is my unit (around 1,700 sq/ft in size):

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I'm pretty sure that all bedrooms and walk-in will use 1 HP AC each. Would love advice from the guru's here in relation to the AC for the living and dining area:

1. Preferably, I'd like to only have 2 AC units (although I'm open to suggestions)
2. The AC at the dining area, preferably should be able to also cover the open kitchen

Can both the living and dining areas use 2 units of 1.5 HP AC's each? Or better 1 HP in living and 2 HP in dining?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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Are you sure a total of 3hp is adequate to cover all those areas? I uses single unit of 2.5hp for my living & dining and it was barely adequate.

If 3 hp is adequate, I think 2 x 1.5hp will be the better choice, cost wise. Place them one in living area and one next to dining area where you would probably use the most. Use ceiling fan to assist the air movement to reach other areas. And better buy non inverter since it is an open space.

And for your master bedroom, i don’t think 1.0hp is adequate based on the room size (relative to the bed size). My room is almost similar size as yours and I am using 2.0hp in my bedroom.

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post Feb 22 2021, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(phil- @ Feb 22 2021, 02:36 PM)
hi. why my compressor fan is on and off when i switch on my aircon? the aircon also not cold. please help  icon_question.gif
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This is normal for non-inverter AC. The compressor would switch off once it reaches certain temperature, until your room warm up again, then switched on again to cool down your room. The cycle repeats. That's how air conditioning works.

AC not cold, plenty of possibilities. Best to call technician and check rather than troubleshooting them yourself.

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post Feb 22 2021, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(phil- @ Feb 22 2021, 04:08 PM)
but the compressor on and off in a short time like less than a minute. it is like more frequent than usual. i am planning to have a look myself first before call technician  laugh.gif
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Just happened recently? What temperature did you set?
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post Mar 1 2021, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(kei_katsuga @ Feb 28 2021, 11:03 AM)
Hi guys, before PKP start, i bought Panasonic 1HP aircon (cs-u10vkh), but couldn't get it delivered until this week.
Suddenly the seller said manufacturer  are pushing for another model (cs-xpu10wkh) and would like to change our order to this model.
Is the new model better than the one i ordered?
Should I agree to the change of model?
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Actually it depends on what you want. The newer model is less premium model and the removed some of the comfort specs from the older model. Energy efficiency wise, the newer model is better, but comfort wise, I think the older model is better.

I was in the same dilemma as you last time, I end up choosing premium inverter over x-deluxe inverter. If you're willing to spend, then go for x-premium instead.
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post Mar 12 2021, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(adamchen @ Mar 11 2021, 04:09 PM)
I bought Panasonic CS-U10VKH-1 1Hp aircond in December, every time I switch on and sleep until the morning my room is full of dust, anyone knows why?
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Because your room is full of dust and the AC is just blowing the dust around.

Did you thoroughly clean your room after installation?
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post Mar 23 2021, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Xaphier @ Mar 23 2021, 02:01 PM)
Thanks for the reply!

Do you have recommendation for Panasonic? Say if I relax the requirements a bit and can go without inverter? I have researched the Daikin's, but apparently for Malaysian shore(Oversea Daikin has different WIFI module), it has a closed API for the WIFI control as it is being locked behind the premium Cloud subscription (Paid premium to buy the aircond still need to pay for subscription shakehead.gif ). I have experience with Pana and can confirm I can tape into the WIFI API without restriction.

Thanks once again!
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I am using Panasonic in my house and I have both inverter & non-inverter. If you want comfort when using the AC, I would highly recommend to buy the inverter one. Non-inverter ones are normally comes with very basic specs which might not be comfortable enough for some people. For example, my non-inverter comes with 3 speed fan, even in "quiet" mode, it is still noisy. My inverter AC on the other hand, is quieter than the "quite" mode in non-inverter at the lowest speed (5 speed altogether).
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post Mar 23 2021, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Xaphier @ Mar 23 2021, 03:33 PM)
Yes if I am given a choice I will definitely go for Inverter. The situation I have right now is I have a very niche requirement of WIFI enabled airconds for the smart home system. Hence willing to compromise on other aspects. Thanks anyway.
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Most panasonic inverter models can be installed with WIFI receiver with additional RM200++ (I might be wrong on the price).
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post Mar 23 2021, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Xaphier @ Mar 23 2021, 04:30 PM)
I am looking for cassette model though.
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Oh. Sorry. I missed that part.
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post Oct 21 2021, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Oct 21 2021, 12:35 AM)
I am using Panasonic ac now.  Have been repairing the same problem for more than 8 times and still fail to get it fixed.
Mitsubishi ac is more expensive and some models come with easy cleaning feature.

I heard Mitsubishi ac is quieter than most of the other brands.
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Who fix it? Panasonic authorized contractor or random third party?
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post Nov 6 2021, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(Germ2501 @ Nov 6 2021, 05:11 PM)
So since I last posted, there's one night where the AC stopped and flashed its error lights 2 times in a row, then it began short cycling again. It probably could've been repaired, but my mom said might as well go buy a new one. So we did that and we bought the MSY-JS10VF installed yesterday.

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This is the first time we have an inverter in the house. Cooling wise, so far it's working really well. It's nice to have consistent cooling output during the night, and during a hot afternoon, it doesn't take too long to cool down to my set temperature of 24.

But I noticed the outdoor unit can get noticeably audible.
Just now I had it on and it was a hot afternoon. On max cooling capacity, the compressor seems to be buzzing away loudly, and inside the room, you get a bit of a higher pitched rumble. Which is kinda irritating.
And then once the room got to the set temperature, the outdoor unit slows down as expected on a inverter, and I don't hear noise inside the room anymore, but when I'm near the outdoor unit, the compressor noise is still somewhat noticeable.
Though when I had it on last night, I barely hear the outdoor unit at all. But it wasn't exactly that warm since it rained yesterday, so the AC didn't really need to work all that much.

Is this situation a cause for concern?
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On the compressor noise, that’s actually pretty normal. I have 4 inverter AC in my house and all behave the same way. Cannot be all 4 faulty right? sweat.gif

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post Nov 6 2021, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Germ2501 @ Nov 6 2021, 07:42 PM)
I expect compressor noise during operation, but it sounds louder than what I'm typically used to. Somewhat a higher pitched hum compared to my previous non inverter unit.

I'll run it again later tonight to see how it does. Maybe it's running at a higher capacity due to the hot weather earlier this afternoon.
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It does sound louder than non-inverter compressor during the start up. Once it reaches the desired temperature there would barely be any sound. I think probably the reason you don’t hear at night is because the windows/doors in other part of your house were closed unlike during the day.

I didn’t notice the sound at first, until one day I forgot to close my toilet door, which the compressor is behind the toilet. Then I start listening to other compressor and found them making the same sound.
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post Dec 5 2021, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 2 2021, 08:53 PM)
Do you guys have this problem?

Panasonic inverter xpu series..
After turn off sometimes the flap dint close completely..
Then I need off the 20A switch and open back it will reset back the position to complete close flap..

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That’s nanoe-g/e blowing. Switch off nanoe-g/e if you’re bothered with that.

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