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ozak
post Sep 24 2015, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 24 2015, 01:30 PM)
i have a panasonic aircon. i use it once a week. after using for 11 months (from date of purchase), the fuse on the main (indoor) unit circuit board blown (as told by panasonic technician). after pcb replacement, everything was ok until today (4 months later), the aircon is not working. i think it is the same problem.

before the panasonic, i had a toshiba. it went dead too, hence i changed it to panasonic.

any idea what could be the culprit?
is this a common panasonic aircon defect?
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You got to ask the technician what cause the board spoil. Without detail answer, you can't find the solution.

Without finding the root problem, change any aircon will be the same.
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post Sep 30 2015, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 26 2015, 07:11 PM)
what do you mean properly fused? as usual, there is a main circuit breaker.
i did some measurement, notice something weird:

when cb is closed:
wall switch open (off) = 0vac
wall switch close (on) = 240vac
^ this seems normal

when cb is opened:
wall switch open (off) = 0vac
wall switch close (on) = 30vac
^ this is weird. why am i getting 30vac ?

this 30vac appears on the aircon power point and the other 2 points that share the same cb.
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Is your cb is a breaker locate in the Distributer board? If yes, check the incoming voltage is 240v. If incoming is 240v but outgoing is 30v, change the cb. It is probably the cb contact is not in good condition.
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post Oct 12 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Oct 12 2015, 07:59 AM)
Hi everyone. I'd like to double check my recent purchase / installation.

I had a basic daikin 1hp unit installed (I can't recall the model but is really the cooling king most basic r22 model)

Is it normal or by design for the bottom portion of the evaporator coils to be flooded ie having about 1-2 cm of water always present at the drainage  until it is in permanent contact with the fins and the coils?

The drainage was not done so properly by the installer, resulting in occasional water leaking through the indoor unit into my room. For the first time when I was trouble shooting, I noticed no matter how I adjust or try to drain away the water, there will eventually be an amount build up.

Another situation is that the air cond is too cold, in a medium room where I live, even 28c setting with low fan will result in too cold.

I have a feeling both are related to the improper installation.
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You need to reinstall the aircon by tilting it more to the drainage direction. The water will be flow out faster.

For the cold, you need to get a thermometer to check the actual room temperature. By telling the "cold" doesn't help to understand how cold is it. If your thermometer read at 20c and your setting is 28c, than you need to call the service center. Something wrong with the sensor.
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post Oct 18 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(kokjye @ Oct 16 2015, 06:15 PM)
Hi guys,why my new air cond compressor when on running time,some time got water came out from the hole bellow the compressor?I asking the air cond installer they say it is normal for all air cond because when the compressor was cold, it will come out water?
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The compressor is not running cold. It usually is running hot. Very hot.

The outdoor unit have a drain hole below is because when the gas run till the end of the condenser, the gas will get very cold. That cause water vapor on the copper pipe and drip down to the bottom of the unit.

Another is the rain water sip into the open fan hole, condenser hole and need to be drain out.

Nothing to worry about.
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post Nov 2 2015, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(MrToper @ Nov 2 2015, 12:27 PM)
I see on some outdoor units that there is ice forming up at the larger pipe(Circled in the pic)

What does this mean?
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They didn't insulated the cold pipe properly. Cause the ice builtup from the condensation.
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post Nov 7 2015, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(kimcil88 @ Nov 6 2015, 08:00 PM)
please help my case too. my pipe don't have ice but the water keep leaking (look at the pic). is it normal?
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There is nothing wrong. Your aircon is fine.

That is cold piping connection. Which that area didn't cover with insulation. So the condensation happen.

If you don't want the water drip, you need to cover it with insulation. But you got to find the insulation that can wrap around that connection bulky head.

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post Nov 7 2015, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(kimcil88 @ Nov 7 2015, 10:03 AM)
Bro.However, this only started happening from this week only. I don't know why it happened since previously It didn't happen like this. What do you think bro? so it's not a leakage since the water dropping very fast?
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It is not leakage. There is no water in the gas pipe. It is just condensation.
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post Nov 7 2015, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(kimcil88 @ Nov 7 2015, 08:50 PM)
so the condensation that cause water drops 2x previously will cause the gas run out faster or not? Top up gas will cost bomb
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It is because the gas too cold than usual. Are you setting the temperature too low? But that is not a problem either.

If gas run out, that is no more cooling. Is it logic for the pipe still cold and condensation?

Forget about it and enjoy your aircon.
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post Jan 1 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Dec 31 2015, 10:03 PM)
Hi, now we are testing Electrolux Air Conditioner ESV09CRC-A3.
The air conditioner is nice but it takes too long to cold the room.
It has indoor display and 3D Air Flow.
Compare to my Panasonic Air Conditioner CS-S10RKH-1 that cold the room faster than Electrolux.
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Have you calculate your room size using how many btu ?
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post Jan 1 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Jan 1 2016, 03:15 PM)
I didn't calculate. We put Electrolux in Shop Lot for 8 months then after that remove.
Electrolux is my brother chose wan.

I support Panasonic and my brother doesn't support Panasonic.
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It is not about the brand.

You know aircon come with different size of HP. To tackle different size of room.

Calculate a room size btu will determine what aircon size is suitable.
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post Jan 22 2016, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 21 2016, 11:23 PM)
Alot of serviceman themself not keep up with the technology.

Yes, you are right, by facing the aircond outlet directly, inverter is not as cold as non-inverter after the room cooled down. This is becos inverter start to reduce compressor and fan speed to maintain the room temperature. In the other hand non-inverter will either full ON or full OFF to maintain the average temperature, when it fully ON, the BTU and coldness is on its max, thats why it gave a wrong perception to ppl non-inverter is colder than inverter. In fact the goal of both inverter and non-inverter is to maintain room temp same as what you set, and the former did a far more superior job compare to latter due to continuous feedback control system.

Don't be surprise different serviceman/salesman will come out with different statement/opinion, alot of time i found their theory is funny. I have to say equip yourself with knowledge so that you won't be brought to Holland easily.
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If you already have knowledge, you don't need to listen to the saleman. What you want is the price.

Do your research and set the model and brand you want to buy. Just ask the price and get the best.

I have been using this way since long time.

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post Feb 5 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 4 2016, 03:13 PM)
My 5-6 year old Sanyo 1hp aircond leaking like no tomorrow. thought of changing to a new aircond.

My room isn't big. So 1hp is defintiely enough.

looking for a reliable and can cool the room. Cheap price around RM900. The better the less coz need save up some money for setup

Any recommendation?
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Dirt stuck in the water drain hole. Go get a service.

Or excuse get a new aircon?
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post Feb 5 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 5 2016, 10:42 AM)
Its an excuse. The aircond is >5 years old.

Btw, is mitsubishi brand good? Better than Daikin?
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Any Japanese aircon is good.

I just install a Mitsubishi inverter aircon. Cost RM1600 for 1hp include installation.

Reason,
1) very quiet
2) easy clean. No others aircon have it.

The design look like normal (boring design compare to my another 1.5hp Panasonic) and big size for a 1hp.
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post Feb 5 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Feb 5 2016, 12:01 PM)
Which model of Panasonic u use before?
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Forget. It is only 1 model that have inverter on 1.5HP.

That is 8yrs ago.
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post Feb 15 2016, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 13 2016, 02:48 PM)
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries or Mitsubishi Electric? I assume ur is ME since 'easy clean'.

I have 2 MHI inverter, 1HP and 2HP, 1 ME inverter, 1HP.

My MHI 1HP is premium model, alot more functions and power saving than ME 1HP non-deluxe model (0.67kW vs 0.8W), but cost the same. I would say ME is expensive.

One thing i like MHI the most is the 'powerful' mode which can run the compressor @ more than rated max capacity for 15 minutes to cool the room faster. Another advantage is the indoor unit of MHI inverter is slim, slimmer than 'Mr Slim' ME, the height is around 10" only, both 1HP and 2HP size are identical, very suitable if the space between windows top and ceiling is limited.
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It is Mitsubishi Electric. MHI don't have easy clean model.

For saving it is 5star with 1489Kwh/yrs. 0.9@0.218.

Easy clean and saving is important.

Other than that is not important as I don't get enjoy this aircon. sad.gif It is for my guess room.
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post Feb 15 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Feb 15 2016, 05:07 PM)
Why you don't enjoy the air conditioner?

Air Conditioner design is not important. No one will complaint if design not good.
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It is for the guess. Not for my room.

The design is important to me. Design reflect the overall room look. I don't like boring old design.
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post Feb 15 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Feb 15 2016, 05:15 PM)
Air conditioner use for cooling haha. We chose A/C depends on brand.

Panasonic look nice and cooling.
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My room is using panasonic.
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post Feb 16 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Feb 15 2016, 05:29 PM)
single phase TNB, can install all the following:

3hp
1.5hp
1hp
1hp

total 4 airconds
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2250w + 1150w + 750w + 750w = 4900w=20A~

Yes.

But no looping. All wiring have to be individual from DB box with MCB protected.

This post has been edited by ozak: Feb 16 2016, 12:50 PM
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post Feb 17 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 16 2016, 08:46 PM)
Ur models should be same as mine, GJ10VA. Me too put at guess room.

Another MHI 1hp inverter I put at my master bedroom since is more saving, 1242kWh/yr. This one i turn ON 27'C 10.5 hours/day during night.
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27°c is hot wor. How to sleep?

Usually run at 24°-25°c for 8hr. Even that low, it quite good saving. My bill every month around RM60-RM70.
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post Feb 22 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Feb 22 2016, 08:52 AM)
My family new house, has bought 6 Daikin AC (not sure what model), I felt that since they changed the name to Daikin from York, now the feeling for the air is not as cold as before, probably this is my personal feeling.

But my condo now is using Panasonic which serve very well, should be 7 years old now, recently searching for another Panasonic AC to be install in living room, seem like people suggesting on this model - CS-S10RKH-1
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Where the hell you get the news that York change name to Daikin?


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