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post Jun 24 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 24 2018, 04:40 PM)
Any problems with the CS-S13TKH-1? How long have you been using it?
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So far it had no issues, been using it since 10 October last year, before I transferred it over to my office to replace a faulty old unit.
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post Jun 26 2018, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 25 2018, 09:30 AM)
Is the radiant/shower/indirect cooling feature for that model useful?
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This model only has Direct / Shower Cooling when used in iAUTO-X, So far it proves itself, I do not get over cooling or direct air blasting at me when the set temperature has been reached. Radiant on the other hand only applies to the Sky Series.
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post Jun 28 2018, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Jun 28 2018, 02:21 PM)
Hi everyone, a seller offered me Panasonic CS-PV12TKH for non inverter and CS-PS12TKH inverter. Are these models ok?  unsure.gif Most likely going for the non-inverter model.
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These are basic models, which I think are good enough if you are not going after nanoe-G and other features.
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post Jun 30 2018, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jun 30 2018, 08:20 AM)
Hey guys, as I’m upgrading my master bedroom to 2hp, I have problem what to do with my old 1.5hp daikin inverter. I’m thinking to move it to my other room but those rooms are smaller 10ft*10ft. I think this room just require 1hp. So if I oversized to use 1.5hp inverter, will it still save electricity?
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I have a similar case with you, just that mine is not a master room. Used to use a 1HP for my room. My windows are facing west and due to the heat, the air conditioner had somewhat some difficulties in cooling the room down especially in the afternoons. If it is a cloudy or rainy day, it has no issues. I have since changed to a 1.5HP Inverter and it does make a difference in reducing the temperature during hot afternoons. As for energy savings, it depends on whether the air conditioner is running full load or part load, perhaps other forummers can advise you on this.
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post Jul 5 2018, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Jul 5 2018, 09:52 AM)
Come from same factory. Oyl Sdn bhd.

So easy to find spare parts and spare parts will be cheap.

But I don’t like because oyl stuff ugly as hell and I have bad experience with stuff from that factory.
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Agree with you on that that the designs are ugly and unrefined. Doesn't give the unit a modern look that can fit in into home or offices perfectly.
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post Jul 7 2018, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Aphonite @ Jul 6 2018, 01:46 AM)
Hi guys, I'm currently looking for a 1hp air conditioner, preferably from Panasonic, Mitsubishi, or Daikin, that is energy efficient. If it has those 5 star energy efficiency ratings, that would be the one I'm looking for.

I personally don't mind forking out extra for an inverter version, just looking for something cost-efficient in the long run as my current air cond might just bite the dust anytime now after 6 years of use. Those air purifying / anti germ features would be a plus, but i wouldn't say it's necessary.

Any recommendations? smile.gif
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Most inverters have 5 star ratings nowadays. Constant speed units average are 3 stars, some manufacturers like Mitsubishi have 4 star constant speed units. However if you are looking for 5 star constant speed units, Mitsubishi Electric has them (MS-GK10VA). If you are looking for air-purifying ones, Panasonic has them in their Elite Inverter, Premium-Inverter and Non-Inverter Deluxe units.
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Jul 16 2018, 04:20 PM)
Hello all sifus

So planning to change 2 air cond units at my house, both have served 10 years ish.. both are inverter units.

I gather that R32 is the one to get now? Any recommendations for R32 Inverter units to get?

Panasonic dosent have R32 units yet right? So is Daikin R32 Inverter the best right now?

How is sharp?
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Panasonic got R32 Units for Sky Series and Premium Inverter
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post Jul 16 2018, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 16 2018, 04:55 PM)
Get the R32 Aerowings from Best Denki. Cheaper. Scout around as Panasonic publishes MSRP. The dealers and appliance shop could be cheaper.
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I agree with this, MSRP on Panasonic not accurate. I bought my 1.5HP R32 Aerowing for RM1,850.
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post Jul 19 2018, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jul 19 2018, 10:30 AM)
May i know what different with R410a piping compare with R32 piping?

I have planning install 1.0 HP Inverter for 2nd bedroom. Can i buy R32 aircond install into R410a piping?
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It's the same pipe thickness.
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post Jul 20 2018, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 20 2018, 05:09 PM)
I am buying new property (not yet start building) and it comes with built in piping for the airconds. As I was looking around, seems if using R22, R32 etc the piping requirements are different? The standard now would be R32 right? What should I check if I need to know if the built in is compatible with R32 aircond?

Upon reading further... the R32 is flammable compared to R410a?
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The thickness for R410A and R32 refrigerant air conditioners should not be below 0.6mm If unsure, refer to developer specs, or get a installer/contractor to confirm. R410A and R32 are still being sold side by side, but near future, they may be obsolete like R22 units. Yes R32 is mildly flammable.

QUOTE(phenomenon @ Jul 20 2018, 05:18 PM)
Hi...

I want to ask regarding the newer R32 refrigerant.
How about the cost to service R32 aircond or top up the gas?
Izzit the same with R410a aircond?

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As far as I have checked with my installer, maintenance is slightly cheaper for R32 refrigerants due to it being a single component gas. R410A is a mixture with R32 being one if it's component. If any leaks happen, R32 can be topped up. For R410A on the other hand, if the refrigerant is below a certain PSI, you would need to flush out the whole system and re-gas it. If it is within the range, can just do top ups.
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Jul 25 2018, 01:11 AM)
The indoor plastic blower having some visible scratches 😥
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Mine had a scratch on the outdoor unit, the reseller filed a warranty claim and it was approved.
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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jul 27 2018, 12:49 PM)
hi guys.. any idea if there is any aircond that is black or better still glass black ? need an aircond with a pleasing aesthetic for the living room
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https://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...r-super-deluxe/

Has 3 colours. Click on download specifications you can see from the brochure.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 30 2018, 02:04 AM)
any idea if this also affected their inverter series ?
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I kena before on my old Inverter (CS/CU-S10MKH) outdoor unit, rusting around the valves area. Visible under the unit as well as when the valve cover is removed. Indoor wise, like what Slimey said, had some dust collection on the cooling coil on the indoor unit. What I do nowadays on my newer units, I use a paint brush to clean the cooling coils.
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QUOTE(redjol @ Jul 30 2018, 10:46 PM)
Hi all, just bought daikin 1 hp non inverter.. but why they give me the r410a one? It supposed to be the latest r32 right?
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They have 2 models some still use R410A, while some are using R32.
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QUOTE(firee818 @ Aug 4 2018, 09:48 AM)
Hi, After reading a few hundreds of pages, still not clear which brand is the best, perhaps each brand has its pros and cons.

Comparing Daikin and Panasonic IHP non-inventor R32, which one is better in term of quietness (both indoor and compressor unit -it is the first priority in consideration to purchase ) and speedy in coolness?

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I think based on your comparison, you are only down to Daikin, as Panasonic has no R32 non-inverter units.
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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 15 2018, 09:17 PM)
Yes but I never saw the going out before. Just after back from going back to kampung and few days not using the aircon. Should be normal I guess.
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Definitely normal for condensate water to exit via drain pipe. That is what a drain pipe is for, to drain condensed water from the cooling coil out.
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Aug 19 2018, 05:16 PM)
Aircond list based on power consumption.

Onedrive link, view and download excel spreadsheet here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AtoOl-yLHwuzjBJsjBkuUVtv3vNB
What was changed from previous version
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- Updated reference price for all airconds.
- Added Elba 1.0HP aircond.
- Added Hisense "HAC-__DAN" airconds.
- Added Hitachi "RAS-SX__CJ" and "RAS-DX__CJ" airconds.
- Added Midea "MSMB-__CRDN1" and "MSK4-__CRN1" airconds.
- Removed discontinued Midea airconds.
- Added Mitsubishi Electric "MSY-JP__VF" airconds.
- Removed discontinued Panasonic airconds.
- Added Sharp "AHXP__VXD" and "AHX__VED" airconds.

Disclaimer: All data is harvested from respective manufacturers website, I am not responsible for any information accuracy in the spreadsheet provided.

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Thanks for all your effort.
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QUOTE(Charlton @ Aug 23 2018, 03:53 AM)
I’m sorry I don’t know what you mean. My contractor who did the renovation mentioned that I had to decide whether I wanted to install inverter or non inverter air con and depending on my decision, the conceal piping done was respectively done. During that time (approx 8 years ago), the piping cost and material is different for inverter and non inverter air con. Doesn’t that refer to piping?
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I think what slimey trying to tell you that there is no such thing as inverter or non inverter pipings, instead the pipings are for different refrigerants, hence the different thickness for the different types refrigerants for the air conditioning units. Nowadays the common refrigerant is the R410a, as many manufacturers are striking off R22 off their lists.
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QUOTE(Queryz @ Aug 30 2018, 10:55 AM)
hi guys. what aircond brand is good? am bout to buy panasonic 1.5hp premium inverter model css13tkh with R410a gas.. is that good? or nay suggestion? i saw r32 quite good..
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I have am using both the S13-TKH(R410a) and currently using the XU-13UKH (R32) Premium Inverters. So far no complaints. R32 on the other hand has additional nanoe-X on top of the R410a unit's nanoe-g. In terms of cooling, the R32 cools down slightly faster than the R410A. Have purchased an additional 4 year extended warranty for then, just for a peace of mind.
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QUOTE(Queryz @ Sep 3 2018, 08:54 AM)
i see, so better buy XU-13UKH right? both are same power consumption? will find XU-13UKH.. how much different ya the price with s13tkh?
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Power Consumption as per ST sticker the XU-13UKH-1 consumes 2003 kwh a year, while the S-13TKH-1 1918 kwh per sticker. The XU-13UKH-1 has a premium of RM200 over the S-13TKH-1.

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