QUOTE(pokemon @ Mar 14 2024, 04:42 PM)
try TBM. i saw it on their websitealso HM is not participating in latest SAVE campaign i think. TBM is participating
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Mar 23 2024, 05:04 PM
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Just realised Mitsubishi JS inverter 1.5hp uses larger gas pipe size of 12.7mm instead of the typical 9.52mm.... usually only 2hp onwards will require 12.7mm. Not sure if this is an error on the website?
https://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...ners/js-series/ For this reason alone I'm considering GR series or other brands 1.5hp inverter [Update] I checked their brochure, seems to be an error on the website. Brochure spec mention JS series 1hp and 1.5hp uses 9.52mm gas pipe https://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...Conditioner.pdf Interestingly I also noticed there's 2 different versions of the 1hp model, JS10VF and JS10VF2 Version 2 seems to be more efficient and better cooling performance overall This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Mar 23 2024, 05:12 PM |
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Mar 24 2024, 03:19 PM
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Non inverter aircond change to inverter aircond.... involves adding additional wiring?
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Mar 24 2024, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Benefon @ Mar 24 2024, 03:31 PM) If back to back , remove all pipes and cables as well. Copper pipe should be fine since my non inverter is already R32There is depend on copper thickness do not less than 0.6mm for inverter unit. Now I can understand why so many people still stick with non inverter especially in high rise. The operation to remove piping and wiring is complicated for high rises and many dont see the worth of it. Many of them are concealed and involves hacking the walls or ceiling This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Mar 24 2024, 03:50 PM |
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Mar 24 2024, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(girlpwnzme @ Mar 24 2024, 05:21 PM) Hello everyone, what can I do with the air con point provided by the developer if I got no plan to install aircon? I would say just get a cheap non inverter aircond and install there since you seldom or dont plan to use. Got better than dont have in the end![]() If you ok with 2nd hand i might have a 1.5hp daikin non inverter to let go soon |
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Mar 25 2024, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Mar 25 2024, 10:41 AM) Hello, Mitsubishi Electric is considered to be the more reliable oneBetween Mitsubishi Electric MSY-JS13VF and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries SRK13YXP, which would be a better choice? Noticed the Heavy Industries is more expensive by around 200, is it worth the extra top up? |
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Mar 26 2024, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(ToniV @ Mar 26 2024, 11:37 AM) I'm getting feed back from repair person that the parts for mitsubishi are not widely available and thus a bit pricy. Have u experienced this? QUOTE(Benefon @ Mar 26 2024, 01:15 PM) If in JB got Mitsubishi Electric service Center all the parts can order easily. I am not too sure about KL, basically Mitsubishi electric come from Thailand. Mitsubishi Electric Msia HQ is at PJ, along Federal Highway you can spot it just few buildings away from Naza. Parts shouldn't be an issue I guess if you're in KL or Selangor. Other states not sure PC board much durable than the daikin. Daikin made in Malaysia sometime out of QC, or QC going to sleep. 😴 Panasonic name good, but ac compressor not as good, lower grade than the daikin. For me. Either Mitsubishi electric or acson or Haier / Gree or Hisense, midea , AUX inverter Ac |
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Upgraded my master room Daikin non inverter R32 1hp to Mitsu JS series inverter 1hp JS10VF2 ![]() Take note that there's 2 version of JS series 1hp. JS10VF and JS10VF2. VF2 is slightly more expensive (around RM100 - 200 difference) but more efficient based on the spec. Worth the extra if you can get it ![]() abhipraaya liked this post
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Apr 16 2024, 10:04 PM
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Apr 16 2024, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(iamtanker @ Apr 16 2024, 10:34 PM) well... all I can say is many aircond installations nowadays involves a lot of shortcutsmost important being vacuuming the pipes.... most installers will only do purging which is not sufficient ![]() There's a saying when it comes to aircond reliability, 30% is hardware quality, 70% is the installation process This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Apr 16 2024, 10:59 PM |
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Apr 17 2024, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Apr 17 2024, 09:14 AM) Actually I would think installer is more than 70% important, as factory is so very rarely going to produce a lemon design. Maybe individually within a production run there will be a (maybe) 1.5% failure rate due to bad soldering or component failure etc, but the warranty takes care of that one unit failure. Hence why I feel if your budget is limited, better get a good basic inverter aircond + a good installer, rather than spending most of your budget on a premium inverter + typical installerBut installer? 100% of the air conds are commissioned by an installer. I honestly think you do the right thing by hiring a good installer. And when the premium inverter starts giving issues most people would be blaming the brand, inverter rather than the installation process But to be fair also an inverter aircond involves more electronics than a non inverter, so there's more chances of something going wrong / failing especially if the aircond is used for long hours daily. So the quality of components eg: circuit board is somewhat important also QUOTE(TrueFalse @ Apr 17 2024, 10:03 AM) I know these equipments are all extra costs but I didnt know its so exp This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Apr 17 2024, 12:45 PM |
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Good video explaining why vacuum process is important during aircond installation
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Apr 17 2024, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Apr 17 2024, 04:25 PM) Wow. No wonder when I install that time request for vacuum, the installer say that with different price. Just didn't expect can be that high. That's half of your aircon price already. because the process takes long time and the equipments are not cheaphere in Msia can be considered a blessing already. If other first world countries such as Australia, the installation fee is typically more than the aircond itself, and installers need a valid license This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Apr 17 2024, 05:15 PM |
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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Apr 17 2024, 10:12 PM) Noted. that's what happen when there is no proper legislation and enforcement in the industry, same goes to electricians. The consumers are partly to blame as well since most only go for the cheapest service Will get it fixed for sure. It's hard to find a reliable installer, it seems like any tom dick and harry will call themselves a A/C technician. if you are located in KL I can share a contact |
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One minor annoyance I have with Mitsubishi aircond (coming from Daikin), it seems the timer setting was not saved in the aircond or remote. Everytime I turn on aircond i have to press the timer button again to engage it, unlike Daikin where it will remember it and straight engage the timer everytime you turn on the aircond
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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 19 2024, 10:07 PM) But compare to 1 x 2hp I would prefer to have 2 x 1hp af different parts of the living room instead. yes 2 units definitely better but as you know and already mentioned, usually for condo and apartment we are limited by the points already provided. you want add extra unit means definitely involve hacking, not many owners would be willing to use exposed casing especially those own stay one. another factor is usually location where you can put compressor is also fixed by management and space limitedI had used 1 x 2.5 hp instead in my living room Becos developer by default only gave 1 x aircon of and my living room and dry kitchen are opened concept. that time I did not opt for inverter Becos my living room was affected by west sun. even day time the 2.5hp is not enough to reach the set temperature of 25 degree and also becos there is only one unit of aircon and it is 2.5hp. My sofa which is directly back facing the aircon make me feel damn cold just for the spot. Very uncomfortable. Even my current rented unit also same. The living room has only 1 x aircon pt and it is pointing directly at my sofa so at nite it can feel super cold just for the sofa area and towards super late nite can reach the set temperature Becos this unit no west sun but the unit is not inverter also. So based on my experience, if can have 2 x units with smaller hp I will prefer it over the single big hp unit. |
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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 19 2024, 10:29 PM) Yes indeed. For those staying in apartment or condo like me is a no choice. previously my master bedroom using 1hp Daikin non inverter, now upgraded to 1hp Mitsubishi inverterLuckily I do not stay in living room most of the time but just sometime so it is still not too bad. Most of the time in study room that it uses 1hp midea non-inverter aircon. So more saving of energy after all. All the 3 aircons in the apartment I stay are not inverter, 1.5hp in living room, 1hp at master bedroom both Mitsubishi, only study room is 1hp midea. However, surprisingly the cooling capability of midea is better, it cold down damn fast and feel very cold. Comparing to it, the 1hp Mitsubishi in my master bedroom cool down slower, of course maybe becos master bedroom is bigger in size also. But overall find that even cheap aircon brand like midea actually is not too bad too. Last time I always insist I will only use Mitsubishi or daikin aircon only. initially will feel Mitsubishi seems to cool slower, but once it reached the set temperature the coolness felt constant throughout the night until morning. Now I feel the room is much cooler in the morning compared to the Daikin non inverter, set to same temperature @ 24c This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Apr 19 2024, 10:36 PM |
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QUOTE(Benefon @ Apr 20 2024, 08:05 AM) Non inverter ac not good for those light sleeping conditions, once the compressor stop run , will awake for while until the compressor kick in again. That is super annoying, for those dead sleeping should not an issue, nothing to disturb them while sleeping Do you use iFeel mode?I am the light sleeping, anything noise will wake up in midnight or |
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