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TIME Time dotcom Overcharging Existing Customers
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TScyborgclone
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May 28 2015, 06:02 PM, updated 11y ago
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 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Called TIME support... I wanted to change my package, since my contract for my lines has expired and I was informed that there are new/better packages.
Supports reply was I would need to sign a contract for 24 Months... No other option was given. Basically stuck in a limbo state. New Rates = New Contract Old Rates = No Contract ?
Why would I want to be tied down? Rates are getting competitive, now that TM is rolling out 50Mbps.
There should be an option for Current Customers to have the option to change their rates. Without having to sign up for a new contract.This post has been edited by cyborgclone: May 28 2015, 06:16 PM
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jjj2
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May 29 2015, 09:31 AM
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Hi Bro,
You are allowed to migrate to the new package with a 24-months contract refresh. Meaning if previously you signed for 24-Months contract, and you have used the service for 12 months, and then ths new packages suddenly launched, you can migrate to the new contract without penalty but with a 24-months contract renewed.
'Old Rates' means you just continue your existing package with the contract you signed previously.
TIME FTTH 30Mbps & 50Mbps are priced at RM219 & RM249 (exclusive of 6% GST) respectively.
Bind in the performance & competitive price, TIME is still an good option.
Feel free to PM me for more details.
Thanks.
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TScyborgclone
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May 29 2015, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE You are allowed to migrate to the new package with a 24-months contract refresh. Meaning if previously you signed for 24-Months contract, and you have used the service for 12 months, and then ths new packages suddenly launched, you can migrate to the new contract without penalty but with a 24-months contract renewed. "I wanted to change my package, since my contract for my lines has expired"MY CONTRACT HAS BEEN OVER FOR SOME TIME.QUOTE 'Old Rates' means you just continue your existing package with the contract you signed previously. "Supports reply was I would need to sign a contract for 24 Months... No other option was given. Basically stuck in a limbo state. New Rates = New Contract Old Rates = No Contract ?" So it is okay for customers to Overpay?
What about if I downgraded? Im using Time dotcom 30Mbps RM249/month. (Currently + Contract Expired) Are you guys going to pressure/force me into signing a new contract? Are you guys going to make me pay more for less?
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mintgadget
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May 30 2015, 06:56 AM
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In the real world its always about new clients. No customer appreciation or loyalty anymore. Taking telcos for example is always a war to entice you to switch over. I believe ISP is no different.
I am in the same dilemma with you. Decided to just reapply a new line and enjoy the "new" benefits. That said is nothing new just lowered monthly rental for high speed packages.
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SUSMatrix
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May 30 2015, 08:17 AM
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Do what i do. Cancel and re-subscribe. Winrar.
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HMMaster
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May 30 2015, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 30 2015, 08:17 AM) Do what i do. Cancel and re-subscribe. Winrar.  Hmm... after re-subscribe, you'll have the contract again right?
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SUSMatrix
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May 30 2015, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ May 30 2015, 01:56 PM) Hmm... after re-subscribe, you'll have the contract again right? Yes. No problem what. There's nothing better out there to subscribe...LOL.
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TScyborgclone
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May 30 2015, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(mintgadget @ May 30 2015, 06:56 AM) In the real world its always about new clients. No customer appreciation or loyalty anymore. Taking telcos for example is always a war to entice you to switch over. I believe ISP is no different. I am in the same dilemma with you. Decided to just reapply a new line and enjoy the "new" benefits. That said is nothing new just lowered monthly rental for high speed packages. The difference adds up over 24 months. Which is a rip off. People need to know. QUOTE(Matrix @ May 30 2015, 05:11 PM) Yes. No problem what. There's nothing better out there to subscribe...LOL. Matrix, pay the difference for us.. No problem what.. right? This post has been edited by cyborgclone: May 30 2015, 06:21 PM
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SUSMatrix
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May 30 2015, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(cyborgclone @ May 30 2015, 06:16 PM) The difference adds up over 24 months. Which is a rip off. People need to know. Matrix, pay the difference for us.. No problem what.. right?  It's still the same price, only speed difference. Dunno what you complaining or trying to get to. Not interested either. This post has been edited by Matrix: May 30 2015, 06:52 PM
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darksider
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May 31 2015, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(cyborgclone @ May 28 2015, 06:02 PM)  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Called TIME support... I wanted to change my package, since my contract for my lines has expired and I was informed that there are new/better packages.
Supports reply was I would need to sign a contract for 24 Months... No other option was given. Basically stuck in a limbo state. New Rates = New Contract Old Rates = No Contract ?
Why would I want to be tied down? Rates are getting competitive, now that TM is rolling out 50Mbps.
There should be an option for Current Customers to have the option to change their rates. Without having to sign up for a new contract.if you understood whats contract, you wouldn't even complain. Contract means legal agreement between both you and TIME. Both of you agreed at the old pricing for 24 months / 12 months on signing, once its expired, the contract pricing shall continue until you terminate it, however if you would want to upgrade to newer package, you would have to sign new contract.
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TScyborgclone
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May 31 2015, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(darksider @ May 31 2015, 06:20 PM) if you understood whats contract, you wouldn't even complain. Contract means legal agreement between both you and TIME. Both of you agreed at the old pricing for 24 months / 12 months on signing, once its expired, the contract pricing shall continue until you terminate it, however if you would want to upgrade to newer package, you would have to sign new contract. If you understood Consumer Rights Legislation's, you would have put more effort in your thought process. Instead of making sweeping statements that one doesn't understand the concept of an agreement/contract. My contract has expired. They are overcharging. Its unscrupulous. Based on the price difference or price/mbps.
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andrekua2
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May 31 2015, 09:22 PM
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Well, that is the plan you sign up for in the first place. They had something new which is priced the same, up to you to choose really.
I also signed up for Maxis FTTH using my sister OKU card. They still charge me RM168 old rate minus 50% instead of RM148 minus 50%. Honestly the translation is true for both sides. First is a different plan which is not entirely incorrect. Secondly its just priced the same but its not the same thing which is also true.
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TScyborgclone
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May 31 2015, 09:28 PM
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Your right... We all will have to make our decisions. I just wanted to point this out. To make a difference.. save about RM200 over the year.  and not get tied to a dam contract. This post has been edited by cyborgclone: May 31 2015, 09:32 PM
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darksider
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May 31 2015, 11:10 PM
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I guess it's your first time out in the real world cyborgclone.
It's standard practice in almost all telcos and isp across the world
I was on a 12gb data plan contact with m1 in Singapore from 2010 to 2012 dec, in 2013 feb, all the plans were on 3gb data plan for all postpaid, and since I didn't terminate my contract ( minimum 24 mins), I was enjoying the 12 gb data plan till early 2015 when I terminated my line.
So what do you say? It's all black and white.
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darksider
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May 31 2015, 11:14 PM
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And most contracts are on going until you terminate it, and have minimum clause of 12 months or 24 months. If you don't like the contract you can terminate anytime.
Surely if the plan has gone up in price like rm350 for 30 mbps and they charge you that without you renewing the contract, then such reaction would be justified, but you would still only have to pay what has been agreed when you first subscribed, and you would be quiet and hoping they don't charge you the higher, do you? Or would you instead complain about being undercharged?
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TScyborgclone
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Jun 1 2015, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE So what do you say? It's all black and white. QUOTE you would be quiet and hoping they don't charge you the higher, do you? Or would you instead complain about being undercharged?  This is what i have to say to you. You dont know the meaning of "renegotiation's", you dont know SLA's and/or that SLA's can be changed/renegotiated and also you must have failed econs 101. like seriously who the hell wants to pay more for anything. You're using "PAYLESS" as your web thread shop names. forum.lowyat.net/topic/3588693Alright. Time dotcom. They are overcharging existing customers. Its unscrupulous. Based on the price difference or price/mbps. This post has been edited by cyborgclone: Jun 1 2015, 12:31 PM
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DeltaPanthera
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Jun 1 2015, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(cyborgclone @ Jun 1 2015, 12:51 AM)  This is what i have to say to you. You dont know the meaning of "renegotiation's", you dont know SLA's and/or that SLA's can be changed/renegotiated and also you must have failed econs 101. like seriously who the hell wants to pay more for anything. You're using "PAYLESS" as your web thread shop names. forum.lowyat.net/topic/3588693Alright. Time dotcom. They are overcharging existing customers. Its unscrupulous. Based on the price difference or price/mbps. Alright do let us know how the negotiation is going. We'll be eagerly waiting your news.
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TScyborgclone
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Jun 1 2015, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(DeltaPanthera @ Jun 1 2015, 07:34 PM) Alright do let us know how the negotiation is going. We'll be eagerly waiting your news.   its in reference Here is an idea, please help yourself and call Time everyday. Telling them they are overcharging you. (Are you even a Time customer?) If your so eager to find out.  Also make a difference. TIME dotCom Berhad (413292-P) Tel : +60-3-5032 6000 Time dotcom. They are overcharging existing customers. Its unscrupulous. Based on the price difference or price/mbps. This post has been edited by cyborgclone: Jun 1 2015, 08:33 PM
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DeltaPanthera
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Jun 2 2015, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(cyborgclone @ Jun 1 2015, 08:23 PM)  its in reference Here is an idea, please help yourself and call Time everyday. Telling them they are overcharging you. (Are you even a Time customer?) If your so eager to find out.  Also make a difference. TIME dotCom Berhad (413292-P) Tel : +60-3-5032 6000 Time dotcom. They are overcharging existing customers. Its unscrupulous. Based on the price difference or price/mbps. I'm a Time-Astro customer for 3 years already. Price is not a problem at all if you want good quality internet. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Simple as that. Internet line down? PM the 2 Time agents on Lowyat here and you'll get an explanation within an hour and your internet connection back in a few hours. What I believe you're doing here is foul-mouthing Time with a flimsy and pointless argument about overcharging when there is NONE HAPPENING. This post has been edited by DeltaPanthera: Jun 2 2015, 01:42 AM
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pltan
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Jun 2 2015, 11:08 AM
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Cyborg is pretty much right, Firstly, we are being overcharged for internet usage in Malaysia...not only are we costlier , we are also lagging behind in average Mbps per user compared to our regional neighbours. http://www.kinibiz.com/story/issues/106653...n-malaysia.html I also agree with Cyborg's sentiment that we shouldn't be locked into prices of a contract when there are cheaper rates being offered. Unfortunately the nature of Malaysia's consumer rights law ( practically non-existent ), allows businesses to continue with these practices. If you were in a signed contract with a telco/Isp/whatever ......say in America, and they introduced lower rates, all you'd need to do is make a phonecall and your rates would be immediately adjusted down. In fact a lot of the time this would be automatically executed. But that's an issue with consumer protection laws.... So I don't think we should just sit back and take it, but it's going to take a lot of voices both from consumers and legislators to get things to change here. It's strange so many of you are condemning OP. This post has been edited by pltan: Jun 2 2015, 11:09 AM
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