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post Oct 29 2006, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(jceh83 @ Oct 28 2006, 03:33 PM)
so you see...this conman has been giving out multiple bank accounts from different people for the buyer to bank in...

unless this is a very well planned multiple-way syndicate to con ppl's money from one LYN account...

never again post ur maybank account on a public thread/post...only pm ppl your maybank account..
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hard to enforce this.. permanent ban on those ppl showingp ublic account number? almost all thse phoine reloader show their accoutn in public.. but no show their contact number in public..

modder can pin all those public account n veryfiy it?
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post Oct 29 2006, 09:54 AM

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post Oct 29 2006, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kkwong87 @ Oct 29 2006, 05:13 AM)
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Total amount reloaded : RM320 (RM300 to 016-9181055 & RM20 to 016-3892285)

Amount Paid to me : RM310 (RM97+RM97+RM97+RM9.80+RM9.80)

Amount i paid to supplier : RM297.60

Amount i earned : RM12.40
The crab want to reload one shot RM300 straight away to the number given but my supplier can't make it.so reload a few times till RM300 for him.

Clear?

To Guest20,

Call my supplier if you need transaction date & time.

I'm very very sleepy arl  rclxub.gif
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is it normal for ppl to reload such big amount 1 shot? small amount nm, but big amount also u dont haf to confirm whether u r loading to righteous person number or not?


kkwong could u check whetehr those number above 016.... 5033 , 016....2285, 016 ...1055 are registered? i called but it gets redirected to digi helpline..


the number 016,,,5033 doesnt get divert to digihelp line but its immediate reject calls..

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post Oct 29 2006, 10:20 AM

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post Oct 29 2006, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(TiangLeong @ Oct 29 2006, 10:20 AM)
SOLUTION #1:
Consumer Education is a Powerful Weapon
Remedies for victims of fraudulent swindles and con schemes require a team effort on the part of the consumer and moderator:

increased and continued consumer awareness and education on the red flags of fraudulent schemes;
consumers reporting fraudulent schemes to appropriate authorities;
increased communication among gauthorities, and consumers;
fraud detection by authorities, and individuals;
fraud deterrence through the prosecution of the perpetrators; and
the establishment of and rules for restitution and prevention measures.
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OMG did you copy all that from the text book?
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post Oct 29 2006, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Oct 29 2006, 10:22 AM)
OMG did you copy all that from the text book?
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HAHAHAAH!... well just added some ellaborations only.. i got exam tomolo... hehehe so no time to put up my thinking cap ROFL ROFL... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 29 2006, 10:51 AM

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ok liooow.. cannot talk too much... since i am not charged with consultation hrs for posting in this forum here ROFLM@(()) .... haf to study liow...




JUST KIDING!
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post Oct 29 2006, 10:53 AM

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Hmm, did you even read anything else posted by moderators before?

LYN is NOT a trading site, and they do not plan to make it one. Moderators are doing this at free will and not getting any pay but you want them to take responsibility for your own wrong doings?


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QUOTE(TiangLeong @ Oct 29 2006, 10:54 AM)
FYI mods.. Fraud scams like this falls under criminology laws.. civil law is the citizens in dispute over disagreement of sth...

Criminology law covers frauds alike and all white collar crimes.
Sooner or later need to open up MAHKAMAH CRIMINOLOGY or sth like tat
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Now your making it sound like your their boss. You never paid a cent for thei service and they are not getting paid a cent for their hard work. Your not appreciating their work instead your demanding more and more and more.

No offence to those whose related to this fraud. I feel its the buyers fault for not checking properly. You guys should know cases like this are popular, you should do your investigation before purchasing anything from anywhere, even real life shops.

I believe many had stressed this before, DO NOT TRADE WITH NEWBIES unless you have a scam proof way of doing so, if not just avoid it.
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QUOTE(TiangLeong @ Oct 29 2006, 10:57 AM)
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Den why do they put up the trading forum?
its going to mislead the public... how abt those who have genuine intention to trade.. u say its not their responsibility? make it a fertile ground for fraud cases now?its so easy to discharge their accountability heh? nice talks.. dont have the intention might as well REMOVE it 100% trade forum!

Need to be responsible on whatever we do.. consumers can only be on guard to the extent they can manage, different consumers will have their own level of comfort level new buyers wont be as experienced as a 2 years trade forum posting adult.. the moderators need to make their complimentary part as wel.. otherwise this will be a fertile breeding ground for all malaysian cyberscammers.
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I hope your NOT another person that talks big but zero when it comes to doing it. I bet the mods are willing to give you the chance to implement this YOURSELF. Which part of the forum isnt mods trying to improve? If they didnt not want to help to cut down the number of con cases, there wont be the safe trader tag, there wont be this sub forum, there wont be all these precautions.

I ask all of you, how many of you actually READ all the details available before doing you trading? They will not close the forum just because of some low-minded/lazy traders. If their smart they wont get con, if they do their research they won't get conned.

IF you say its not their fault then may I ask you why all those that have trading experience won't get con? its because their not lazy to go read up the details and do some research. Everyone kept repeating DO NOT trade with newbies but their still people doing that. If you want to trade with newbies you can always do a cod with them. I am not saying all newbies are conman but I am say MOST of the newbies are conman.

Come on, be logical, WHY IN THE WORLD would someone sell something super cheap? and its not only 1 item, its a FEW items superbly cheap until its IMPOSSIBLE. Would you buy a Mercedes S class without seeing it with you own eyes even if it was 10k? Would you buy a banglo thats Rm1000 but you never saw it before? No right? Then why are you buying these stuff that you never seen before and you cant confirm its real?

Edit : Reply to the post above.

I ask you, would you take up the chance if you could? I mean implement all your ideas if you were given a chance? WOULD YOU do it for FREE? You can avoid getting conned by newbies if you follow the procedures provided by so many of the senior traders. IF your willing to put up effort into searching details about your trade I'm sure the number of con cases will greatly decrease. If the buyers of this thread could have just done a search about the bank account owner with the LYN search function all this could have been avoided.

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QUOTE(TiangLeong @ Oct 29 2006, 10:57 AM)
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Den why do they put up the trading forum?
its going to mislead the public... how abt those who have genuine intention to trade.. u say its not their responsibility? make it a fertile ground for fraud cases now?its so easy to discharge their accountability heh? nice talks.. dont have the intention might as well REMOVE it 100% trade forum!

Need to be responsible on whatever we do.. consumers can only be on guard to the extent they can manage, different consumers will have their own level of comfort level new buyers wont be as experienced as a 2 years trade forum posting adult.. the moderators need to make their complimentary part as wel.. otherwise this will be a fertile breeding ground for all malaysian cyberscammers.
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Have u ever seen sign boards around places which say "Management will not be responsible over loss from theft"?
Most probably at parking lots which are free
Just like LYN's trading grounds, they do not take responsibility over losses from criminal cases, though they might do their best to make it safe. They might have some cameras around, probably a security guard on duty. But if theft still does occur, they are not responsible
So let me ask you this, should the close down they parking lot just because they're providing a free service there and would it be ridiculous to have preventive measures which cost large amounts of money?

Besides, let me ask you another thing
Let's say LYN would take responsiblity over fraud cases
What would u like to happen when someone claims to be conned?
I'm sure you dont think LYN would decide to pay the victim back (that's a fantasy trading forum)
The only thing they can do is say "Sorry for the inconvenience", get flamed by a few parties and try to implement better rules and services
Other than the first step, we're already doing the other 2
So would admitting fault really be such an important step?
How would this contribute to reducing fraud?

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post Oct 29 2006, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(TiangLeong @ Oct 29 2006, 10:57 AM)
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Den why do they put up the trading forum?
its going to mislead the public... how abt those who have genuine intention to trade.. u say its not their responsibility? make it a fertile ground for fraud cases now?its so easy to discharge their accountability heh? nice talks.. dont have the intention might as well REMOVE it 100% trade forum!

Need to be responsible on whatever we do.. consumers can only be on guard to the extent they can manage, different consumers will have their own level of comfort level new buyers wont be as experienced as a 2 years trade forum posting adult.. the moderators need to make their complimentary part as wel.. otherwise this will be a fertile breeding ground for all malaysian cyberscammers.
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it's easy for u to say like that, demanding responsibilites from the mods saying that it's their job to make things right when u got cheated..

it has been told too many times before, this forum ISN'T a trading site, mods won't be responsible if u encounter frauds or get cheated..they have listed guidelines on how to trade here, and all u have to do is follow it..

alas, they also made their own complimentary part to, by putting up this trade resolution forum for all of u so called "adults" buyers to settle ur dispute, and they'll provide assistance whenever possible..

in the end my point is, TRADE HERE AT UR OWN RISK, if u want a lesser risk trading site, go shop at Lelong, DON'T MOCK THE MODS when u got cheated by newbies, and the most important of all, if u wanna trade with newbies, JUST DO COD..

thanks, and good day to all..

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post Oct 29 2006, 11:24 AM

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okok .. sure sounds like quarrel now.. flame is engulfing in the threat!... PIECE OUT OK.. i'll keep quiet lioow

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