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> wtfind> phone owner 016 376 7326 LEONLUSM, leonlusm > all thread closed after get $

SUSdandan
post Oct 29 2006, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Guest20 @ Oct 29 2006, 01:13 AM)
no time to flirt hey hey.. tongue.gif
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i am just asking whether she is a guy or a lady.because someone told be kkwong is a she
kkwong87
post Oct 29 2006, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Guest20 @ Oct 28 2006, 11:40 AM)

is this kkwong related too? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=55738

why is ur creating many acount ??
Fyi,i'm using the account kkwong87 to trade here,and on ebay.
Pls ask for mod's help to check whether i got using other account on lyn.

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post Oct 29 2006, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(dandan @ Oct 29 2006, 12:15 AM)
i am just asking whether she is a guy or a lady.because someone told be kkwong is a she
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you're right.i'm female. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 29 2006, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(lOvEbItE @ Oct 28 2006, 11:45 PM)
inetnum:      60.48.0.0 -  60.54.255.255
netname:      XDSLSTREAMYX
descr:        Telekom Malaysia Berhad
descr:        Network Strategy
descr:        Wisma Telekom
descr:        Jalan Pantai Baru
descr:        50672 Kuala Lumpur
country:      MY

60.51.53.168 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]
60.53.53.187 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan]
60.51.55.135 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]
60.51.51.253 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]
60.51.53.67 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]

seem like this conman based in subang wor...
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thanks so much for the useful info..

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post Oct 29 2006, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 28 2006, 02:54 PM)
All members who have corresponded with leonluism have been informed of this topic.

sickboy: The rabbit hole goes deeper. I did a global search through the PMs for that account number, and found that it links back to ashmy.

For privacy reasons, I am not reading into the messages. I have summoned ashmy to clarify though. I think you might've been tricked into banking in to ashmy's account.

Same goes to Guest20, banking into kkwong's account.

IP addresses used by leonluism:
2:24AM 8 Sep
218.111.171.46

6:30PM-8:30PM 23 Oct
60.51.51.244

12:26PM 25 Oct
60.49.122.243
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thanks for the useful info u got .. really appreciate it

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post Oct 29 2006, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(yamahai @ Oct 28 2006, 03:13 PM)
OMG! im oredi pay e rm150 deposit to his z530i tat used 3 months ler? so how? is't possible2get bck e $?
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cb?? WHAT?? i thought he told me i won the z530i rm 310 .. u banked in rm150?!?!? ma ka hai.. leon im gonna get u
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post Oct 29 2006, 01:05 AM

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I believe that even you guys can trace who are the owners of the hp no reloaded to, things wouldnt help much.

Firstly, how on earth will REALLY benefits him by reloading such huge sum of credit into HIS OWN hp?

Secondly, since he/she is such a careful person, which uses third party account, do you think that he/she will use his/her own hp number?

What i suspect is even the hp no which he/she asked to reload is NOT HIS OWN NUMBER. He/she might offer others that he can reload for them in a cheaper rate or whatever to earn REAL CASH.

Well, this is juz my opinion, hope can broaden the way of investigating.

Maybe you guys can contact these numbers reloaded & ask them whether somebody had offered them reloading service in cheaper rate?

I've read through every single posting here & i hope i din miss any, do correct me if i made any silly statement here.
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post Oct 29 2006, 01:38 AM

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l'll call those 4numbers leon topp'd up for the source where they reloaded from later on today..

anybody can contact their supplier to retrieve asap those numbr requested top up from leon, please post here asap.

everybody pleasse dont panic , i'll call the number later in the morning today,

dont rush to call the numbers, i'll keep this thread updated.

i'll need you lyp forumme's cooperation too. please wait for my outcome first.

fyi- .digi supp no retrieve number --(please don't simply call this number, ask your supplier to retrive for you) those topp'd up numbers

This post has been edited by Guest20: Oct 29 2006, 09:10 AM
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post Oct 29 2006, 02:33 AM

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i loaded for him 26/10/2006

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post Oct 29 2006, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(Guest20 @ Oct 28 2006, 06:14 PM)
from what i understand from the lyp inputs,

this guy LEONLUSM, open many new threads, sell nice items at below average prices, when asked for bank details,

he gives good reputable fast seller such as phone reloaders, like kkwong, and negubuga, which he can get deal immediately after u informed YOUR MONEY has BANKED in a 3rd party account (which is not the scammer's)

in return, he sms to the 3rd party to get free reloads, and products..

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graphical representation of the plan from teh scammer,

the follows explains the idea of teh scammer.

overall idea:
============ (step 2)============= (step 1)========
3rd party seller <--------leonlusm (016 ....7326)--------->buyer(Me)

Step 1)
u bank in this way..
3rd party seller <-------------------------------------->BUYER (Me)

Step 2)
actual deal /with transaction
3rd party seller (Mr. Ngu) <----------------> Leonlusm (016 ... 7326)


consequences

the 1 who rugi here is the BUYER!!


sorry to say that, what buyer expecting
( nothing ) <--------------------------------------------------->buyer




----------------scenario 1 suspect ------------------------
There might be a relation between leonlusm and kkwong87

leonlusm might not be from sibu , he might be from penang

all his post claiming that he is from sibu is BULLSHIT


We suspect kkwong87 is leonlusm

WHY?


kkwong87 is selling a hamster -

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=356518&hl=

Leonlusm is interested in hamster-

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=8881957


but anything can happend

why kkwong87 didnt online this few days?
only today when this case come out then she came only

To all the prepaid sellers account , please provide solid proof to defend yourself

can sombody give me kkwong's actual phone number?? i need to call him to prevent him posting the item to leon!!

damit.. prolly leonlusm already got top up worth or rm310 by now from kkwong cb
leonlusm u f*

confirm scammer contact number is 0163767326 ( which is his confirm the scammer's LEONLUSM's until oct 27, fri when i talked to the person, he blur blur admit he is Foo, and dont know how to speak chinese, will post using skynet shortly around 1700hours ++) ...(after 5pm that is )

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Hi,
You had called me just now.I just get to know bout this case when you(Guest20) called me.
Hope things get clear.

I'm from penang and have c.o.d with 2 persons in Penang so far,1 is my k700i(sold to Genova) and the other one is my yamaha guitar(sold to Kang Wei).If you need to verify my location can ask viking,I had bought 2 phones from Viking before.Hopefully he'll remember that i live in Penang.From Lovebite's post,that crab shall be in kl.
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inetnum: 60.48.0.0 - 60.54.255.255
netname: XDSLSTREAMYX
descr: Telekom Malaysia Berhad
descr: Network Strategy
descr: Wisma Telekom
descr: Jalan Pantai Baru
descr: 50672 Kuala Lumpur
country: MY

60.51.53.168 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]
60.53.53.187 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan]
60.51.55.135 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]
60.51.51.253 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]
60.51.53.67 - Location: Malaysia (high) [City: Subang Jaya, Selangor]

seem like this conman based in subang wor...

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2nd,I seldom online on weekend.I've told a reload buyer before,i'm not always online on msn on ym just to stanby for customers.I'm a part-time seller.So,shall i report my daily timetable to anyone?

3rd,I've post my phone number on lyn before and get lots of sms from 'interested buyer' but actually a busybody.therefore i decided to delete my phone number from signature and thread.(genuine buyer should hv my number)

4th,I'm selling winter white hamster.(anyone interested can let me know. biggrin.gif)
Everyone can be a hamster lover,right?hopefully i din offend anyone for selling winter white hamster on lyn.. sweat.gif
From my opinion,there's a few posibility here that leonlusm claimed that he's 'interested' in 'hamster':
1.He's a real 'hamster' lover.
2.He simply posted it to increase his post.
3.He's trying to 'inform' you that he's 'related' to me.

BUT,he seems like want to get a GUINEA PIG,not my winter white hamster lah.. doh.gif
I don agree with your suspicion on hamster issue,anyway i've done my part,clarify to you.

LAST,am a 19 years old girl,and speak chinese very well,call me when you free. smile.gif

p/s:I may not online on Sunday,any update you sms me lah.It's hard to trade online,for my profit of a few cents on digi reload,i've to spend over an hour to clarify here,sigh...
Good night all. yawn.gif

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post Oct 29 2006, 04:28 AM

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ok i was conned before in the same way. gave him free relaod card. previous conman account is cyberkid82.
i think it should be the same person.
so beware next time.
should mod pin this thread?

kkwong87
post Oct 29 2006, 05:13 AM

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QUOTE(dandan @ Oct 28 2006, 11:53 PM)
any proof on that?
even good reputation can be down the drain
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Total amount reloaded : RM320 (RM300 to 016-9181055 & RM20 to 016-3892285)

Amount Paid to me : RM310 (RM97+RM97+RM97+RM9.80+RM9.80)

Amount i paid to supplier : RM297.60

Amount i earned : RM12.40


The crab want to reload one shot RM300 straight away to the number given but my supplier can't make it.so reload a few times till RM300 for him.

Clear?

To Guest20,

Call my supplier if you need transaction date & time.

I'm very very sleepy arl rclxub.gif

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post Oct 29 2006, 07:49 AM

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That site which says the IP is based in Subang is wrong. You need TMnet's asssistance in tracking the account down.
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post Oct 29 2006, 07:55 AM

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. . . looks like ashmy is happy enough selling hes reloads and not willing to come in here for any talks .. .
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post Oct 29 2006, 08:22 AM

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one way to prevent this reload exploitation is all the reload transactions (amount) must end with 1 cent,

for example
rm100.01
rm50.01
etc...

without the 1 cent, the reload sellers must not top up any amount to anyone.

if someone is selling something that ends with 1 cent, he is exploiting the handphone reload.

i hope LYN management make this mandatory for reload sellers.

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post Oct 29 2006, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Oct 29 2006, 08:22 AM)
one way to prevent this reload exploitation is all the reload transactions (amount) must end with 1 cent,

for example
rm100.01
rm50.01
etc...

without the 1 cent, the reload sellers must not top up any amount to anyone.

if someone is selling something that ends with 1 cent, he is exploiting the handphone reload.

i hope LYN management make this mandatory for reload sellers.
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why talk prevention now, we want solution for this case now!!
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post Oct 29 2006, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Guest20 @ Oct 29 2006, 09:14 AM)
why talk prevention now, we want solution for this case now!!
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can you handle the truth? i dont wanna hurt you but the truth is there is no solution.

i have been here in this forum for 4 yrs, reading all the con cases in the past years, no one could do anything to the conman, and this case the worse thing is you dont even know his real name, other con cases they the buyers knew the name, they also could not do anything.

however you can start from here:

go to telekom, give them duit kopi if necessary and ask them to trace the ip address to the owner, this is the only route to get to him.
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QUOTE(Guest20 @ Oct 29 2006, 12:36 AM)
cb?? WHAT?? i thought he told me i won the z530i rm 310 .. u banked in rm150?!?!?          ma ka hai.. leon im gonna get u
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ya... he said rm300 inc. postage2me... but im deal wif him tat i'll jz deposit 50% of rm300 to him 1st thn only clear e rest rm150 after i received e goods.
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