in Lima already got new MBDA receive LOI on VL-Mica
just not high hope on Gowind, they just continue follow plan to do.
nothing much can change. just asw frigate. air defense not priority on this ship.
from now on, we just focus on construction progress.
hopefully not delay any more.



This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 4 2015, 01:48 PM

It also look like sm2 missile, and size also about same,
but than range only 40km, seems very old tech missile （liquid propellant） .
not sure status our MOU with china on HQ16 SAM。

ya，

it 90% same design with dcns Gowind 1000. i expected they pay some price to dcns to get license.
ship bridge same enhance design like our Gowind/Gowind2500

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 4 2015, 02:17 PM

more not logic，if cooperation，not use Saab item？
i means saab navy radar, sensor etc。。
anyway still look like Gowind

i still like
Gowind 1000 on enhance design at 2014
sample, stealth and clean design. 360 bridge view

OPV spec


Corvette spec


This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 4 2015, 03:28 PM

more like POC ship, than give to France navy used for 3 year, than dcns can resell to any navy, so far still not sell it. they put price tag Euro 200 million.

just fans boy design,
many design not logic and mistake,
i can say impossible to make it.

read new many fresh grade from Uni un-employed ...
maybe GOV can more attract more from them join army RMAF/RMN/RMA。。。
more and more high-tech weapon and sensor/system like new Gowind ship need more skill crew too...

no choose only use this...
if got $$$ they also not get this.

no choose only use this...
if got $$$ they also not get this.

politician off course follow public will said Gov military procurement is wasting money.... than they will get support.

well it still alot people support and push this Ah-6i to Gov use at Esscom. and price not cheap as your think, it cost usd 9.2 million each (saudi price) include ammo, support maintenance , parts, training.
if wan cheap，i more prefer get more AW109LUH.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 8 2015, 10:59 AM

Not only AH6i, also MD530D alot people still aim cheap price.
Agree, i still prefer ESSCOM and all other country area use proper Attack helicopter, due to long range needed and fire power, also distance to base and sea require long range. prefer,WZ10, Tiger or T129 Atak, all can fly more than 500km with weapon. we need more bigger picture.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 8 2015, 11:16 AM

well not really, in base always have heli on standby which can take off in 5min. unless the SOP is not require, than same to any heli.
if worry on sniper than all heli is same, include Ah6i or MD530D.
A proper Attach heli have better optical and sensor they can fly in more safety range like 1-2km or more and do the reconnaissance .... also their on onboard sensor can detect intruder gun fire to them. and they have more fire power to chase the insurgent. also if got insurgent, army also will deploy with Attack heli to assist with reconnaissance and firepower.

As i said we should see more bigger picture, getting proper attach helicopter not limit use in Esscom, it just one of mission, is overall increase strange to Army, it can use in all place in country if needed. as your mention, our current AW109LUH already can do.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 8 2015, 11:44 AM

Our PUTD already have AW109LUH, it same funtion like UH72A (H145M)
anyway both is 2 different weapon, different propose, different mission, different tactic, if compare to real attack helicopter， just like compare apple to orange.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 8 2015, 11:56 AM

well our PUTD LUh no have medevac version, if case emergency need medevac, it use side door . just like Bomba AW109.
this is differences helicopter design culture between AW and Eurocopter Airbus Helicopter. that why most medevac helicopter is using EC135/145.
PUTD/Bomba only use agustawestland helicopter， unless gov make decision buy Airbus helicopter for them.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 8 2015, 12:25 PM

AW109LUH just like EC139 size。。it can do troop carrier, recon, medevac in one heli too. as EC145 liter bigger, if do medevac cant carry troop too, max 3 personal, mostly 1-2 for doctor, 1 more EMT personal. but Lakotas have dedicated medevac version, which not carry troop or reconn.

it just ack as radar station at middle between semporna and Philippine border to surveillance sea surface, which ship high enough, it should be able to monitor range 20-30km for small boat..
it also will be protect by patrol ship together ask as mother ship.
recently already add 30+ small patrol boat at ESSCOM.

LCS already RMK10 project, but payment will cross 3 RMK. payment should be divided to 8-9 year 2014-2022, cross 3 RMK.
compare to getting 1400 tons corvette which cost close around usd 300 million each, i more prefer priority to get new 500-600 tons patrol boat at lease 16 unit to replace our currently 10 FAC which already use 40+ year,
which very old and not high serviceability. so we can get more small patrol ship and wider our patrol area which much better equipment/facility to serve much better.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 8 2015, 10:39 PM

except Lumit, Sepnaggar and Johor base,
dont why other navy base so small Jetty, went they built they not think of future.
even now also need to double side park.
dont if buy LPD or even Gowind class need to stop-by.



Semporna base only allow 600 tons ship coming only due small bayou












full already Lumut Navy base, unless BNS move out, it take 50% off navy space.


This post has been edited by waja2000: Jul 10 2015, 03:39 PM