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post Oct 26 2006, 08:09 PM, updated 19y ago

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I wanna introduce Ipcop/Smoothwall since there's really no thread dedicated to this piece of powerful free yet router software.

Why buy an expensive router, when you can make it your by your own with an old computer.


Smoothwall m0n0wall
Ip-cop ClarkConnect Pfsense

important tools: Putty WinSCP
To use above tool, u need to enable SSH port. In ipcop u can find that feature SYSTEM>SSH ACCESS: TICK [SSH ACCESS]

It is an open source firewall distribution based on the GNU/Linux operating system.
Well then, You can do anything to it. There're many addons for it. Qos, p2p blocker, traffic shaping, even load balancing(still in early stage), antivirus, most importantly a really powerful firewall.

I'm using ipcop. It contains almost all the important features from Smoothwall.

I can see beautiful traffic graphs tongue.gif
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Layer7 blocker is an addon worth mentioning. It blocks connection based on protocol. Bt, emule, kazaa for example.

Ipcop even allow battlenet user to host and play with LAN users.
Pretty good feature i say, for those Dota kakis who is having trouble hosting and playing housemate in our very own battlenet private server, blue-server.

All you need to do is do some tricks on the host file.

i've written a step-by-step tutorial for it at HERE


*this thread is to help ppl understand more abt linux networking, firewall and help ppl who has trouble installing it or to host a game in battlennet and ur lan frens can join. lol

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post Oct 26 2006, 11:57 PM

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hi there. it could be more useful if u post this under the "linux and open source software" thread. i bet that more people will learn from this. keep up the good work then!
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post Oct 27 2006, 12:10 AM

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Hmm..Well, since there's a dlink DSL-500T club thread. I've might as well make a DIY router thread. =D

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thats even better smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2006, 09:27 AM

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ipcop is freaking good tongue.gif ... but u might can even try ClarkConnect (community edition) smile.gif but i have 1 problem... how to integrate wireless in these things?

self build routers are so damn good, it never hangs and stuff (as becoz the hardware itself already surpassed all those routers in the market (im talking bout home use routers, not commercial tongue.gif)) but the problem is the box is too big ...

tried finding some minibox, nanobox, wrapbox in the net. but they are too expensive, added with shipping is totally unacceptable ... sob sob ... guess this kind of trend not yet heat up in malaysia

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post Oct 27 2006, 10:06 AM

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al these for linux only ? are these programs available for windows ?? I m linux n00b rclxub.gif I having hard time to linux , I don't even know how to install stuff , those command are too rclxub.gif
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post Oct 27 2006, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Oct 27 2006, 10:06 AM)
al these for linux only ? are these programs available for windows ?? I m linux n00b rclxub.gif I having hard time to linux , I don't even know how to install stuff , those command are too rclxub.gif
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Mostly thr are based on UNIX, Linux is just a branch from the UNIX family. Other firewall distribution such as m0n0wall and Pfsense are based on BSD which is a branch from the UNIX family too. I'm just learn learning Linux too. Actually its fairly easy to install ipcop. And i've written a step-by-step installation tutorial in my blog. The link is at my 1st post. If u read my tutorial, you'll find out that u dont even need to write and commands. its all in GUI mode. Even grandmas knows how to install. =D

QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Oct 27 2006, 09:27 AM)
ipcop is freaking good tongue.gif ... but u might can even try ClarkConnect (community edition) smile.gif but i have 1 problem... how to integrate wireless in these things?

self build routers are so damn good, it never hangs and stuff (as becoz the hardware itself already surpassed all those routers in the market (im talking bout home use routers, not commercial tongue.gif)) but the problem is the box is too big ...

tried finding some minibox, nanobox, wrapbox in the net. but they are too expensive, added with shipping is totally unacceptable ... sob sob ... guess this kind of trend not yet heat up in malaysia
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Lol, actually i wanted to try clarkconnect out. But i ran out of cds!! I hav used up my cd burning smoothwall 2 and 3, pfsense, m0n0wall and ipcop. ClarkConnect is really more user friendly. As for ur question, Im not familiar in tat range. AFAIK thrs little support for wireless adapter, most of it are PCI based. I only hav usb wireless adapter. So, too bad. Cant try it out. Or for ease of sake, just plug in a wireless router? That wud do the job fairly easy.

Yeah.. My linux box is damn large and heavy. =D but it's powered with Celeron 333Mhz , 4Gb HDD and 128mb RAM. Any commercial router out thr with such spec? lol. whistling.gif you know, D-link dsl-500t is based on busybox.

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post Oct 27 2006, 04:56 PM

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Finally somebody is in with this DIY router cheers.gif

I'm in the planning to built a router running Mikrotik to do multi wan load balancing. Should read up on Mikrotik as well, very very very strong and stable RouterOS smile.gif Web based configuration and managing thumbup.gif

Heck even a pentium running edo ram is suffecient for these kinda system.
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post Oct 27 2006, 10:12 PM

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i've tried Smoothwall, IPCop, ClarkConnect (CE) and SME Server 7 for my router-wannabe and finally settled for ClarkConnect for now.

My purpose is an all-in-one firewall, router, webserver and fileserver. I would've used ipcop for it (due to its great gui, managing and logging function), except that in the end i realized it is intended solely for firewall+routing solution. If you decided to host a webpage or samba-ing, it's better to go for all-in-one like clarkconnect and sme server - because it's meant to be that way - an all-in-one, where as ipcop/smoothwall/monowall is dedicated for firewall/routing (i break my ipcop once when i tried to make it a torrent server + webserver - done a lot of compiling and then it starts to act funny) linux n00b tongue.gif

so far, having a dedicated pc router is great, except for the electric bills tongue.gif your linux have to run 24hrs and with all the clients running too, it just adds up to the bills (+1 pc) anyway, i would rather have this than the router+modem combo im having (aztech 600eu).. more than 400 connection and it will hang, need to reboot modem and after 12hrs reboot again rclxub.gif well not with this beast, 6k connection currently and it didn't give a damn thumbup.gif add that with a web proxy function, intrusion detection system, system statistics, mailserver, QoS and webserver = win.

just remember though, if u are concerned about security and at the same time want to have all this webserver/mailserver/any service that needs incoming connection, better to add another server like this

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                                             PC 3
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Internet =======> Server 1========(green)===> Switch == PC 1
          (ipcop/smoothwall/                  ||
            monowall/other)                  PC 2    
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                 Server 2
         (webserver or mailserver)

Currently my clarkconnect box serves as a torrent server, video/mp3 encoder and fileserver for my network. Still trying to find a better bt client for linux other than torrentflux unsure.gif i can't afford to install azureus in my server with 128mb ram tongue.gif

I think this topic should be about discussing about dedicated pc running as a router/firewall/server for home network. What u say? biggrin.gif

And one more thing, if you are just running one or two pc in your network, i think it's better to just use the router modem combo.. not much processing power needed, unless both of the pc is used heavily for bt/internet/server function.

p/s: oh, n for those of u who are afraid with linux - relax~ before this i also know nothing, but now know how to configure, make and make install tongue.gif it's easy unless you decided to add something up to the default installation. and even when you decided to do so, it's still not that hard. google is your friend smile.gif

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post Oct 28 2006, 12:18 AM

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Angeldothack:

Yeah, looks like we all here have some common interest. cheers~ I've change the thread title to DIY router. =D So that we can discuss all of those wonderful DIY routers. I can't agree with you more. It's the problem with the commercial routers out there is lack of support and function. And routers with more function costs more~ talk abt money for value.
I've used ZTE, Aztech, and Dlink too. They cant really handle too many connections. They'll just hang after hours of mass p2p dl-ing. Sucks really.

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have you tried installing copfilter in ur ipcop box? it's a great addition, in a way it includes ClamAv antivirus that integrates with the built-in squid proxy (i used advproxy - more options than the default one) biggrin.gif i've also tried doing a sigx script that can be cron'd (if u felt like showing off your ipcop box) tongue.gif but too bad i didn't save it >.<
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after I read yr blog , I start to be interested liao. Err ... This works like an OS right ? I just straight boot the cd then install.

brows.gif thanks for sharing

I download first , next week I going to try this when I am free brows.gif
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post Oct 28 2006, 02:37 AM

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ok ... I have tried is quite simple to install. I manage to make my DHCP server working , other are quite normal. I still can't manage to use PPPoE because I dont have another nic which compatible with this. I have another DLink network card extra , can some1 please tell me how to install the driver for that card ? The driver does include in IPCop cd rclxub.gif LOL I going to blame u for giving me this panda eyes now tongue.gif I didn't sleep just to play around with this tongue.gif

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post Oct 28 2006, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Oct 28 2006, 02:37 AM)
ok ... I have tried is quite simple to install. I manage to make my DHCP server working , other are quite normal. I still can't manage to use PPPoE because I dont have another nic which compatible with this. I have another DLink network card extra , can some1 please tell me how to install the driver for that card ? The driver does include in IPCop cd rclxub.gif LOL I going to blame u for giving me this panda eyes now tongue.gif I didn't sleep just to play around with this tongue.gif
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Lol. Tangan gatal already. laugh.gif Nop, u do not need to install any drivers for it. It recognizes almost all the chipsets used in the network adapter in the market. So, no worries. I'm using Zyxel and Dlink NIC. Both detected using Realtek chipset.

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post Oct 28 2006, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Oct 28 2006, 02:49 AM)
Lol. Tangan gatal already. laugh.gif  Nop, u do not need to install any drivers for it. It recognizes almost all the chipsets used in the network adapter in the market. So, no worries. I'm using Zyxel and Dlink NIC. Both detected using Realtek chipset.
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The problem my crappy D-Link NIC is not using REALTEK chipset vmad.gif

damn !@#@!#!@$!@#!@#!# it is not in the compatible list too.

I am getting desperate for another NIC liao !! Tempted to open [WTB] NIC at garage sales liao tongue.gif

Curst D-Link vmad.gif I haet D-Link vmad.gif I hate my stupid D-Link 500G , and I hate the stupid NIC too .
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post Oct 28 2006, 03:16 AM

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Does this works with any router?
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My 'router' also use D-Link card (2 of them), and both of them detected as realtek8139 smile.gif

boblp: i think it will work with any router that have rj-45 port. heck, u didn't even need any router anyway, since your server will be your router. the only thing needed is an adsl modem, switch and a pc with a network card (x2) tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2006, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Oct 28 2006, 03:03 AM)
The problem my crappy D-Link NIC is not using REALTEK chipset vmad.gif

damn !@#@!#!@$!@#!@#!# it is not in the compatible list too.

I am getting desperate for another NIC liao !! Tempted to open [WTB] NIC at garage sales liao tongue.gif

Curst D-Link vmad.gif I haet D-Link vmad.gif I hate my stupid D-Link 500G , and I hate the stupid NIC too .
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Thats strange, im using dlink DFE-528TX NIC, its detected. Did u probe it properly? just follow my steps. Dun worry. Patience is a virtue.

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Does this works with any router?
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Yeap. Works with any modem, modem/router but not router only. Since, this linux box only do the dialing and routing.Its not a modem, so u still need a modem.

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Oct 28 2006, 12:15 PM)
Thats strange, im using dlink DFE-528TX NIC, its detected. Did u probe it properly? just follow my steps. Dun worry. Patience is a virtue.
Yeap. Works with any modem, modem/router but not router only. Since, this linux box only do the dialing and routing.Its not a modem, so u still need a modem.
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I am using D-Link 530TX vmad.gif hoping I didn't slot properly unto the pci slot. Err ... if I'm not mistaken , I read somewhere in the forum too . Other ppl using the same network card having the same problem sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2006, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Oct 28 2006, 12:36 PM)
I am using D-Link 530TX vmad.gif hoping I didn't slot properly unto the pci slot. Err ... if I'm not mistaken , I read somewhere in the forum too . Other ppl using the same network card having the same problem sad.gif
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Hmm...from source i found out that dlink DGE 530TX uses Marvell Yukon 88E80xx PCI 10/100/1000Base chipset.
How abt selecting the chipset manually?

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err ... damn paiseh la blush.gif I slot again the D-Link NIC , it is working now blush.gif blush.gif

hahahahha been cursing D-Link so much , at the end is my own stupidity blush.gif

err PPPoE is working , err I feel the website load faster than usual. Err coz the router can do the job faster ?

How do I do port forward now ? blush.gif Sorry for my n00bieness , I've found it blush.gif

If I am using QoS , I shall allow port 80 to be highest priority right ? Other than that , what port should I put high priority ? I don't play games . Besides HTTP ?? Any ideas ?

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I think based on the graph , u can judge what bussiness I'm in now brows.gif

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Oct 28 2006, 01:11 PM)
err PPPoE is working , err I feel the website load faster than usual. Err coz the router can do the job faster ?

If I am using QoS , I shall allow port 80 to be highest priority right ? Other than that , what port should I put high priority ? I don't play games . Besides HTTP ?? Any ideas ?
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maybe it loads faster because of the webproxy.. do u activate it? biggrin.gif

yeah, port 80 high priority, and based on your graph, do u run bt? maybe try to add a rule for that too, lower than the http priority. i think there's also a more advance plugin for QoS available for ipcop.. try look in here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=144798
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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 28 2006, 09:16 PM)
maybe it loads faster because of the webproxy.. do u activate it? biggrin.gif

yeah, port 80 high priority, and based on your graph, do u run bt? maybe try to add a rule for that too, lower than the http priority. i think there's also a more advance plugin for QoS available for ipcop.. try look in here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=144798
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clever boy brows.gif I am heavy BT user blush.gif

Now no more DC because of router overload , but is my modem to become overload rclxub.gif The D-Link 500G overheated if I leave it few hours on for full blast BT rclxub.gif guess I need to add some ramsink and put a active fan. So far I am happy with it.

Err any website can teach .. how to .... for ipcop ?

e.g. how to install the addons

something like that blush.gif
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post Oct 28 2006, 11:50 PM

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To install stuff u need to use WinSCP and Putty.
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eh? can clarkconnect or other software be used as torrent server? something like those synology download server or asus bt router server ...
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u can try Torrentflux thumbup.gif

here is the guide how to install Torrentflux on ubuntu server

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post Oct 29 2006, 01:21 PM

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Where can I find those mini/nano ITX casing?
I wanted to use those router distro for a long time but it is too bulky on my old box.
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post Oct 29 2006, 02:02 PM

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If i remembered clearly i glance once a mini casing in lowyat b4. Go try your luck
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Damn I was about to download ClarkConnect but the community edition doesn't have support for multi-WAN connections, so I'll go for pfSense instead... maybe

Does ClarkConnect has a transparent squid built-in? can I compile custom applications? I hope it allows me to bind with another ethernet interface & manually divert high bandwidth connections to another gateway.
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QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Oct 29 2006, 11:14 AM)
eh? can clarkconnect or other software be used as torrent server? something like those synology download server or asus bt router server ...
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like stealer said, u can use torrentflux. and torrentflux b4rt - a torrentflux client that has been modified/enhanced. i tried both and it's good, but i think better stick to the original client (torrentflux) and plugged-in what you wants. depends on you smile.gif

for me, i use mldonkey. a multi-client (bt, emule, overnet, gnutella, http download). compile and left running in my cc box, then install sancho in my winxp machine and managed everything from there. there's also a webgui administration builtin for mldonkey.

QUOTE(strace @ Oct 29 2006, 03:13 PM)
Damn I was about to download ClarkConnect but the community edition doesn't have support for multi-WAN connections, so I'll go for pfSense instead... maybe

Does ClarkConnect has a transparent squid built-in? can I compile custom applications? I hope it allows me to bind with another ethernet interface & manually divert high bandwidth connections to another gateway.
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transparent squid - yes. with statistics and dans guardian for content filtering.

compile custom application - yes, but need to install a development package (gcc and kernel sourcecode if you need it. easily install and removed - not advised to keep any development package in there..)

bind with another eth interface - ..? sorry, i'm not that good with networking stuff. but u can specify what the eth role, and what it's function. anyway, if the builtin webgui doesn't satisfy you (very basic function), you can install webmin (custom for cc, just use apt-get install)for advance administration smile.gif
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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 29 2006, 08:07 PM)
like stealer said, u can use torrentflux. and torrentflux b4rt - a torrentflux client that has been modified/enhanced. i tried both and it's good, but i think better stick to the original client (torrentflux) and plugged-in what you wants. depends on you smile.gif

for me, i use mldonkey. a multi-client (bt, emule, overnet, gnutella, http download). compile and left running in my cc box, then install sancho in my winxp machine and managed everything from there. there's also a webgui administration builtin for mldonkey.
transparent squid - yes. with statistics and dans guardian for content filtering.

compile custom application - yes, but need to install a development package (gcc and kernel sourcecode if you need it. easily install and removed - not advised to keep any development package in there..)

bind with another eth interface - ..? sorry, i'm not that good with networking stuff. but u can specify what the eth role, and what it's function. anyway, if the builtin webgui doesn't satisfy you (very basic function), you can install webmin (custom for cc, just use apt-get install)for advance administration smile.gif
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Err can I know what is torrentflux for ? blush.gif n00b here blush.gif
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like stealer has pointed out,
QUOTE(stealer @ Oct 29 2006, 01:04 PM)
u can try Torrentflux  thumbup.gif

here is the guide how to install Torrentflux on ubuntu server
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basically, it's one of those other torrent client like azureus, bitcomet, utorrent, abc, etc~. it's main 'engine' is using bittornado (the b4rt edition also supports transmission - another CLI bt client).

now, it's different from other client, in a way it have a web interface. what is web interface? if you use azureus, or utorrent, u must've heard of WebUI. It's one of the method of download/managing the torrents from your web browser. The only times you want to do this (control the torrent from a web browser) is when you aren't in front of the PC. let's say you are at the office, working.. and you realized that the latest naruto episode has been released. your pc is switched on, in your home - downloading other files.. but you want this naruto episode finished downloading (theorically) when you got back from work. now this is when the WebUI (or web interface, or web component.. whatever you name it) kicks in.

You open your browser, type your no-ip/dyndns address (for your pc), specifying what ports is opened for the 'remote' controlling, and it will loads your bt client - in the browser. you just put the bt links in here, and it will get the torrent file and it will start downloading and finish by the time you back from work (i hope rolleyes.gif)

ok you can all flame me now, better we use VNC tongue.gif

this is for casual users.. now we, are a member of DIY router. we need to make use of our router! rather than have 4 pc running at the same time, BT'ing, online 24hrs to finished downloading - we make our router do all the dirty works, successfully reducing uptime (and electricity cost) of each client, easy bandwidth management (1pc to throttle), easier port-forward rules, and minimizing 'duplicate' torrent problem - in other words centralized. and i love a centralized place to do everything biggrin.gif

unfortunately, there's no linux client that supports all the advance stuff in bt like protocol encryption and dht - and have a WebUI, except for azureus. and being me, i didn't really like java stuff.. and my cc box aren't really that 'powerful'. so i just stick with other clients for this time being.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 29 2006, 08:07 PM)
bind with another eth interface - ..? sorry, i'm not that good with networking stuff. but u can specify what the eth role, and what it's function. anyway, if the builtin webgui doesn't satisfy you (very basic function), you can install webmin (custom for cc, just use apt-get install)for advance administration smile.gif
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what i mean is I wanted to make it capable of handling multi WAN connections even though the community version doesnt have or allow that feature enabled.
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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 29 2006, 11:21 PM)
like stealer has pointed out,

basically, it's one of those other torrent client like azureus, bitcomet, utorrent, abc, etc~. it's main 'engine' is using bittornado (the b4rt edition also supports transmission - another CLI bt client).

now, it's different from other client, in a way it have a web interface. what is web interface? if you use azureus, or utorrent, u must've heard of WebUI. It's one of the method of download/managing the torrents from your web browser. The only times you want to do this (control the torrent from a web browser) is when you aren't in front of the PC. let's say you are at the office, working.. and you realized that the latest naruto episode has been released. your pc is switched on, in your home - downloading other files.. but you want this naruto episode finished downloading (theorically) when you got back from work. now this is when the WebUI (or web interface, or web component.. whatever you name it) kicks in.

You open your browser, type your no-ip/dyndns address (for your pc), specifying what ports is opened for the 'remote' controlling, and it will loads your bt client - in the browser. you just put the bt links in here, and it will get the torrent file and it will start downloading and finish by the time you back from work (i hope rolleyes.gif)

ok you can all flame me now, better we use VNC tongue.gif

this is for casual users.. now we, are a member of DIY router. we need to make use of our router! rather than have 4 pc running at the same time, BT'ing, online 24hrs to finished downloading - we make our router do all the dirty works, successfully reducing uptime (and electricity cost) of each client, easy bandwidth management (1pc to throttle), easier port-forward rules, and minimizing 'duplicate' torrent problem - in other words centralized. and i love a centralized place to do everything biggrin.gif

unfortunately, there's no linux client that supports all the advance stuff in bt like protocol encryption and dht - and have a WebUI, except for azureus. and being me, i didn't really like java stuff.. and my cc box aren't really that 'powerful'. so i just stick with other clients for this time being.. sweat.gif
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Wow yr explanation is long , but I understand liao blush.gif Thanks.


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what u all recommend to cool my Modem ? when I running BT with IPcop , my modem will overheated rclxub.gif it is even hotter than my laptop adapter rclxub.gif

I should put a active 92mm fan below or add ramsinks ?
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what modem you are using? and before this does it overheated too, when you just using the modem and no ipcop? does it hang, or you felt that it just hotter than before
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what modem you are using? and before this does it overheated too, when you just using the modem and no ipcop? does it hang, or you felt that it just hotter than before
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using my stupid D-Link 500G vmad.gif it goes hotter than before with ipcop. rclxub.gif

maybe my BT tooo hiong liao laugh.gif

It really burn yr hand when u put yr palm on top of it rclxub.gif

This routermodem really shakehead.gif if u in routing mode , on BT . DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC DC & DC rclxms.gif

Great Job D-Link

LOL I am tempted to get a termometer to see how far the temp go tongue.gif

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hmm, don't know much about that modem.. but as for mine, it is more stable since all the routing is done in the cc box. the modem just for connections (bridging), and so far it works great. maybe need to tweak some more..? for the modem settings i guess smile.gif
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I'm very interested in this.. I just happen to have a very old computer

Pentium 1
32mb of ram
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I wonder will it enough for IP-Cop? drool.gif
I'm a noob in this. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sunmaster @ Nov 1 2006, 11:50 PM)
I'm very interested in this.. I just happen to have a very old computer

Pentium 1
32mb of ram
2gb hd

I wonder will it enough for IP-Cop?  drool.gif
I'm a noob in this. biggrin.gif
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why not tongue.gif It shouldnt be a problem at all smile.gif
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any option for "chillispot" or other hotspot management system?
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I dont see a built-in hotspot management system for clarkconnect, guess you need to install it manually.


Is it possible to route transparent squid traffics binded on a virtual IP to another gateway? or better, route transparent squid traffics to another gateway without virtual IP (so I spend less time with the configurations). If yes then I'm gonna hook my new box to the "real" world tomorrow biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(azmihamzah @ Nov 2 2006, 02:53 AM)
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Mikrotik can do that as well but you have to buy the license sweat.gif
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just curious , is there anyway for computer to be a modem ?

since computer can be a router , I am wondering can it be modem too ?? brows.gif HAHAHA I know is a stupid question , forgive my noob-ness blush.gif
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buy an internal modem?
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lol , I was thinking any chance those 56k internal modem can convert it into ADSL modem tongue.gif Lame question anyway blush.gif
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Nope you can't do that but there is a ADSL modem PCI adapter. There is no guarentee if kernel can detect teh devices or not
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most interested to know more about load balancing options,
hv any links to point to for reference, 3 NIC, 2 broadband links?

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QUOTE(strace @ Nov 2 2006, 03:34 AM)
Is it possible to route transparent squid traffics binded on a virtual IP to another gateway? or better, route transparent squid traffics to another gateway without virtual IP (so I spend less time with the configurations). If yes then I'm gonna hook my new box to the "real" world tomorrow biggrin.gif
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Sorry, i'm pretty outdated with current software trends for router. What is the relations between virtual IP and squid ? Do you mean:
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a) user PC -> squid <-> router<->internet
Or,
b) user PC -> router <-> squid
                |
            internet


For a) it's quite obvious, you'll need to set router as gateway for squid proxy.
In b) case, you'll need NAT.
For Linux with iptables, see:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-6.html#ss6.2

QUOTE(xenothrix @ Nov 2 2006, 02:46 PM)
most interested to know more about load balancing options,
hv any links to point to for reference, 3 NIC, 2 broadband links?
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Mind you that load sharing for internet is not perfect. The correct implementation requires you to install load-balancer at the both side, and not CPE side only. Eg:
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               +-------+   ppp0   +-------+
               |       |==========|       |
'customer' ----|   GW  |          |  ISP  |---- 'internet'
               |       |==========|       |
               +-------+   ppp1   +-------+

This way, you'll be guaranteed to get bandwidth of WAN1 + WAN2. But, if you install the load-balancer for CPE side only, most likely you'll never get the speed of WAN1+WAN2. (An analogy is single-core vs dual-core CPU, you'll not get 4GHz CPU if you get 2GHz dual-core). Also there is a few problems you'll need to cater with.(And yes, things can become really ugly...static routes, alternative routes, Dead Gateway Detection, NAT, etc)
http://lartc.org/lartc.html#LARTC.RPDB.MULTIPLE-LINKS

PS: Ugh, it's hard to draw ascii in here tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mokona_modoki @ Nov 2 2006, 06:48 PM)
Sorry, i'm pretty outdated with current software trends for router. What is the relations between virtual IP and squid ? Do you mean:
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a) user PC -> squid <-> router<->internet
Or,
b) user PC -> router <-> squid
                |
            internet


For a) it's quite obvious, you'll need to set router as gateway for squid proxy.
In b) case, you'll need NAT.
For Linux with iptables, see:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-6.html#ss6.2
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Clients -> router -> WAN1 (default)
               |
               |
               + squid -> WAN2

*Router & squid are from the same machine.

I need to bind squid with a virtual IP then route add virtualip gw wan2 ethx so that squid will use WAN2 connection, correct?
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what antivirus u all use by ipcop ?
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wah.. i don't understand all this multi-wan load balancing stuff. so i leave that to the pro ones notworthy.gif

wilson88: i use ClamAv. for ipcop there's a plugin - copfilter that comes with clamav. but i never succeed on detecting virus at router level sweat.gif maybe my configuration is wrong
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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Nov 2 2006, 11:06 PM)
wah.. i don't understand all this multi-wan load balancing stuff. so i leave that to the pro ones notworthy.gif

wilson88: i use ClamAv. for ipcop there's a plugin - copfilter that comes with clamav. but i never succeed on detecting virus at router level sweat.gif maybe my configuration is wrong
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just curious , what happen if the router found the virus ? and how u know the router found the virus ? I doubt it will have pop up like normal antivirus does blush.gif

forgive me , too much n00b question shakehead.gif
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Clients -> router -> WAN1 (default)
               |
               |
               + squid -> WAN2

*Router & squid are from the same machine.

I need to bind squid with a virtual IP then route add virtualip gw wan2 ethx so that squid will use WAN2 connection, correct?
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First, let's redraw the diagram:
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Clients -> router -> WAN1 (other traffic)
               |
               |
              WAN2(squid traffic only, eg: http)

To simplified, what you want is to route based on tcp port number. I'm not sure what OS you're using but it can be done as follow (in Linux iptables lingo):

1 - use NAT to redirect tcp destination port(dport) 80 to 3128(squid port). You'll also need MASQ/DNAT here for return packet...
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128

2 - use packet mangle, set all traffic with tcp dport 80 to some MARK value(let say 2).
iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 2

3 - use iproute2 to route all traffic marked with 2 to pass through WAN2
echo 202 www.out >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
ip rule add fwmark 2 table www.out
ip route add default via WAN2_IP_ADDR dev wan2 table www.out
ip route flush cache

Well, quite interesting setup you have there.. I'm not sure if my instruction work or not(as i never test that) but i think it will. You may need to change/play around it to test. Feedbacks are welcomed. After all, i'm still n00bish in this kind of things smile.gif

EDITED:-- after some re-read i think my packet mangling section is wrong... We should mark packet output from squid not incoming. So, the question is how to mark packet outputted from squid ?...

EDITED:-- Some answers:
http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfi...ril/060108.html
http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/sq...00505/0698.html

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:15 PM)
just curious , what happen if the router found the virus ? and how u know the router found the virus ? I doubt it will have pop up like normal antivirus does blush.gif

forgive me , too much n00b question shakehead.gif
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well, it would auto-discard/auto-delete/auto-quarantine - based on your settings and it will send an alert via email to you (based on the copfilter implementation). and rest assured, there will be no pop up laugh.gif

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Nov 2 2006, 12:27 AM)
why not tongue.gif It shouldnt be a problem at all smile.gif
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Great!! rclxms.gif will try it in my free time and let you all noe.. really interested in this..it's like an eye opener.. drool.gif
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Great!! rclxms.gif will try it in my free time and let you all noe.. really interested in this..it's like an eye opener..  drool.gif
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Actually, i wouldn't count on that. It wud be best for it to hav more than 64mb of rams. Try stroll around in out garage thread, u might find some rm30 64mb ram.

If u are a heavy bt user and u wan to add additional addon for it. More rams are needed.
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Default values of CONNTRACK_MAX and HASHSIZE
============================================

By default, both CONNTRACK_MAX and HASHSIZE get average values for
"reasonable" use, computed automatically according to the amount of
available RAM.

Default value of CONNTRACK_MAX
------------------------------

On i386 architecture, CONNTRACK_MAX = RAMSIZE (in bytes) / 16384 =
RAMSIZE (in MegaBytes) * 64.
So for example, a 32 bits PC with 512MB of RAM can handle 512*1024^2/16384 =
512*64 = 32768 simultaneous netfilter connections by default.

But the real formula is:
CONNTRACK_MAX = RAMSIZE (in bytes) / 16384 / (x / 32)
where x is the number of bits in a pointer (for example, 32 or 64 bits)

Please note that:
- default CONNTRACK_MAX value will not be inferior to 128
- for systems with more than 1GB of RAM, default CONNTRACK_MAX value is
  limited to 65536 (but can of course be set to more manually).
Source: http://www.wallfire.org/misc/netfilter_conntrack_perf.txt

If u still insist to do so, u can write your own script to decrease numbers of connections allowed and decrease it timeout time. Just add in your rc.local under /etc/rc.d.

the script you'll need will be at here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=185279


If you wanna try, u can install in a virtual pc using vmware workstation. Anyway, just try it 1st, see anything goes wrong. If thrs a problem u can try,
LEAF Project, Coyote Linux, FREESCO or fdgw. They require very little resources, it can be booted up from 1.44mb floppy disk wif 8mb of rams.


Anyway, i just install teamspeak server into my linux box. =D. Now my router is truly a gaming router. lol. For those who doesnt know wat teamspeak is, teamspeak a piece audio conferencing software just like skype, the beauty of it? less memory and bandwidth usage. It only transfer data when it detects a signal(your voice). Teamspeak is extremely popular among Wow players. So far so good, i might add another tutorial on it when im free. =D

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Just some general knowledge wink.gif
This diagram should describe how Linux route packet. Should be useful if you want to play with iptables, traffic control, shaping etc...

http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/PacketFlow.png
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syyang85: will try it when i got a hold on my old pc.. The problem is the old pc is in my home town!! sad.gif I'll go back only by this month end.. Maybe this weekend will try on vmware 1st.. Anyway thank for the info.. icon_rolleyes.gif


BTW, is it possible to wifi with this DIY router? Maybe something like this,

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[Internet] -> [DIY router PC] -> [wifi adapter] -> [client pc]


or something like that?? biggrin.gif
(or maybe the 2nd NIC in the DIY router is the wifi adapter,which means DIY router + wifi adapter is in 1 box)

I'm noob in this networking stuff?? But I'm very interested in networking my home... biggrin.gif
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actually i m interested to set up a kind of failover dual-wan setup as traffics r mainly HTTP, POP3/SMTP, IM n once in while VPN/RDC/VNC to desktops at customer sites. the main concern is, HTTP as our job deals with web-based developments. double the speed is not quite an issue as current 1mbps HTTP connection will b more than enough to cater the clients. Only thing is the current router modem seems to die off when number of clients increase.

thanks for clarifying the issue!
will try to set up a terminal when i get the access to a free desktop unit.
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QUOTE(mokona_modoki @ Nov 2 2006, 11:27 PM)
First, let's redraw the diagram:
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Clients -> router -> WAN1 (other traffic)
               |
               |
              WAN2(squid traffic only, eg: http)

To simplified, what you want is to route based on tcp port number. I'm not sure what OS you're using but it can be done as follow (in Linux iptables lingo):

1 - use NAT to redirect tcp destination port(dport) 80 to 3128(squid port). You'll also need MASQ/DNAT here for return packet...
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128

2 - use packet mangle, set all traffic with tcp dport 80 to some MARK value(let say 2).
iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80  -j MARK --set-mark 2

3 - use iproute2 to route all traffic marked with 2 to pass through WAN2
echo 202 www.out >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
ip rule add fwmark 2 table www.out
ip route add default via WAN2_IP_ADDR dev wan2 table www.out
ip route flush cache

Well, quite interesting setup you have there.. I'm not sure if my instruction work or not(as i never test that) but i think it will. You may need to change/play around it to test. Feedbacks are welcomed. After all, i'm still n00bish in this kind of things smile.gif

EDITED:-- after some re-read i think my packet mangling section is wrong... We should mark packet output from squid not incoming. So, the question is how to mark packet outputted from squid ?...

EDITED:-- Some answers:
http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfi...ril/060108.html
http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/sq...00505/0698.html
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Wow, clarkconnect doesn't have development tools installed by default. Besides this software will expire within a year, I dont want to recompile the kernel again annually.

Since squid packets can't be marked without ROUTE mangle, how about I put it this way:
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Clients -> router -> WAN1 (squid traffics)
               |
               |
              WAN2(other traffics)

Yes this is more simple, divert all connections excluding squid/other ports to WAN2.
Sorry, I'm really bad with iptables tongue.gif
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from what i read, it's not advisable to install development package in any dedicated router. usually after i compile something, i removed it back. i might be wrong though unsure.gif
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yeah, security wise yes but not that much. You wouldn't know some people who managed to break in might compile sniffers or custom "files" in your router.
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QUOTE(sunmaster @ Nov 3 2006, 10:32 AM)
syyang85: will try it when i got a hold on my old pc.. The problem is the old pc is in my home town!!  sad.gif  I'll go back only by this month end.. Maybe this weekend will try on vmware 1st.. Anyway thank for the info.. icon_rolleyes.gif
BTW, is it possible to wifi with this DIY router? Maybe something like this,

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[Internet] -> [DIY router PC] -> [wifi adapter] -> [client pc]


or something like that??  biggrin.gif
(or maybe the 2nd NIC in the DIY router is the wifi adapter,which means DIY router + wifi adapter is in 1 box)

I'm noob in this networking stuff?? But I'm very interested in networking my home...  biggrin.gif
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No, that wouldn't be possible, you'll be needing wireless router or WAP(wireless access point), It works just like a normal switch except, its wireless.
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QUOTE(strace @ Nov 3 2006, 12:07 PM)
Since squid packets can't be marked without ROUTE mangle, how about I put it this way:
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Clients -> router -> WAN1 (squid traffics)
               |
               |
              WAN2(other traffics)

Yes this is more simple, divert all connections excluding squid/other ports to WAN2.
Sorry, I'm really bad with iptables tongue.gif
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In former problem:
No, there is no need for squid patching. My mangle rule is wrong, the correct one is already answered in the mailing list. That is change from:
iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 2
to
iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 2
For a while i was confuse with chain OUTPUT because i guess it evaluated after routing already done, but the truth is not. See http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/PacketFlow.png to see how routing is decided.
After that, just follow for the rest.

Current setup:
- I would prefer the former rather than later as it's cleaner approach. If you decide to use this setup, you'll need to mark every packet except tcp dport 80. This would also increase unnecessary processing overhead. But the concept is still the same:
- route only happen at IP layer, so it don't know about TCP port number. So it needs help from iptables.
- iptables know about TCP layer, so it can check the source/dest port for each packet. To work with route, iptables will mark the necessary packet with special "tag".
- route see packet with special "tag", send them to correct interface (eg: wan2).

Notes:
- iptables know nothing about application layer. So if you want up to application control(eg: http only, not port 80 tcp), then you'll need another piece of software. (Eg: snort-inline). But remember, the higher TCP layer you use, the higher processing overhead would occur. So, for this example i'll just use tcp port 80 which should be adequate.

QUOTE(sunmaster @ Nov 3 2006, 10:32 AM)
BTW, is it possible to wifi with this DIY router? Maybe something like this,

CODE
[Internet] -> [DIY router PC] -> [wifi adapter] -> [client pc]


or something like that??  biggrin.gif
(or maybe the 2nd NIC in the DIY router is the wifi adapter,which means DIY router + wifi adapter is in 1 box)

I'm noob in this networking stuff?? But I'm very interested in networking my home...  biggrin.gif
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If your card support hostap, it can be converted to Access Point.
http://hostap.epitest.fi/

QUOTE(xenothrix @ Nov 3 2006, 10:32 AM)
actually i m interested to set up a kind of failover dual-wan setup as traffics r mainly HTTP, POP3/SMTP, IM n once in while VPN/RDC/VNC to desktops at customer sites. the main concern is, HTTP as our job deals with web-based developments. double the speed is not quite an issue as current 1mbps HTTP connection will b more than enough to cater the clients. Only thing is the current router modem seems to die off when number of clients increase.

thanks for clarifying the issue!
will try to set up a terminal when i get the access to a free desktop unit.
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I see, so what you want is High-Availability(HA) not High Performance(HP). If i recall correctly, you'll need a daemon to monitor line status. If fail, then failover.. maybe this site could help you:
http://www.linux-ha.org/
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err .. if I need to put wireless ? I just connect my wireless access point to the switch ?

If I am using wireless router , do I need to set anything on the wireless router ?
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http://hostap.epitest.fi/


erm.. I do not really understand here.. blush.gif Let me try to get you..
Is is what you are trying to say is,

1) 1st NIC is connected to internet
2) 2nd NIC is acctually a somesort of PCI wireless access card(does this exist??) rclxub.gif

OR can be drawn like this,
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[Internet] -> [DIY router PC] -> [WAP] -> [client pc]

both NIC is normal NIC cards...



you quoted, If your card support hostap, are you refering to NIC card?

sorry for the noobness.. tongue.gif It just that I got a picture in my mind but not sure on how to do it in real life.. unsure.gif

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erm.. I do not really understand here..  blush.gif Let me try to get you..
Is is what you are trying to say is,

1) 1st NIC is connected to internet
2) 2nd NIC is acctually a somesort of PCI wireless access card(does this exist??) rclxub.gif

OR can be drawn like this,
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[Internet] -> [DIY router PC] -> [WAP] -> [client pc]

both NIC is normal NIC cards...

you quoted, If your card support hostap, are you refering to NIC card?

sorry for the noobness.. tongue.gif It just that I got a picture in my mind but not sure on how to do it in real life.. unsure.gif
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he was mentioning abt whether if the pci wireless card support hostap
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thanks.. that means this DIY router can be made into DIY wireless router also.. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Oct 27 2006, 10:06 AM)
al these for linux only ? are these programs available for windows ?? I m linux n00b rclxub.gif I having hard time to linux , I don't even know how to install stuff , those command are too rclxub.gif
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Btw, Windows put a limit on how many can connect to your pc, though hackers got a way around long long time ago.


I got no computer to do that, my Pentium 233 mhz pc died 3 to 5 years ago.
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In former problem:
No, there is no need for squid patching. My mangle rule is wrong, the correct one is already answered in the mailing list.....blah blah
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hey guys, can ClarkConnect added with any Bit TOrrent/Download module? i mean any idea? if not any other recommend software that can do such thing? but i also need NAS+Router+download station+webserver tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mokona_modoki @ Nov 3 2006, 07:04 PM)
I see, so what you want is High-Availability(HA) not High Performance(HP). If i recall correctly, you'll need a daemon to monitor line status. If fail, then failover.. maybe this site could help you:
http://www.linux-ha.org/
hi, thanks bro.
but i m very very new to linux, especially this type of router configurations. the most i did on linux was to boot off the ubuntu live cd.
any recommended config, like ipcop to put up a working router first? (put aside the multi wan thing n as long as i can control audio streaming as it created havoc in the office network)
any more links to read? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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need what kinda of modem? Nomal old school dial up modem can or not?
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need what kinda of modem? Nomal old school dial up modem can or not?
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no no no..u wilson88 are wrong.
ipcop acts like a router it it givs NAT service to yout network computers. You can use 56k or ISDN modem to connect to internet too.but there's no point sharing that 56k dial up speed among ur computers rite? laugh.gif

QUOTE(xenothrix @ Nov 5 2006, 05:01 PM)
hi, thanks bro.
but i m very very new to linux, especially this type of router configurations. the most i did on linux was to boot off the ubuntu live cd.
any recommended config, like ipcop to put up a working router first? (put aside the multi wan thing n as long as i can control audio streaming as it created havoc in the office network)
any more links to read?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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How abt reading my tutorial in my link that i've posted in my 1st post? It's abt from installing the ipcop up until setting up streamyx account. With screenshots of course for easier understanding.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=8910498
For audio streaming control, you'll need to install extra Advance Qos. You can apply rules for audio streamings. like say..reserve or limit 20% of the bandwidth for it

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err .... hi, still how to get BT/FTP/Direct download working with ClarkConnect or any other ... any idea how? thanks!
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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Nov 5 2006, 11:57 PM)
no no no..u wilson88 are wrong.
ipcop acts like a router it it givs NAT service to yout network computers. You can use 56k or ISDN modem to connect to internet too.but there's no point sharing that 56k dial up speed among ur computers rite? laugh.gif
How abt reading my tutorial in my link that i've posted in my 1st post? It's abt from installing the ipcop up until setting up streamyx account. With screenshots of course for easier understanding.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=8910498
For audio streaming control, you'll need to install extra Advance Qos. You can apply rules for audio streamings. like say..reserve or limit 20% of the bandwidth for it
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blush.gif I kena pwned !! tongue.gif

hahahaha sorry , my mindset was set to ADSL rclxub.gif I didn't think of 56k blush.gif I kick 56k out of my mind ade blush.gif
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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Nov 5 2006, 11:57 PM)
no no no..u wilson88 are wrong.
ipcop acts like a router it it givs NAT service to yout network computers. You can use 56k or ISDN modem to connect to internet too.but there's no point sharing that 56k dial up speed among ur computers rite? laugh.gif
How abt reading my tutorial in my link that i've posted in my 1st post? It's abt from installing the ipcop up until setting up streamyx account. With screenshots of course for easier understanding.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=8910498
For audio streaming control, you'll need to install extra Advance Qos. You can apply rules for audio streamings. like say..reserve or limit 20% of the bandwidth for it
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did read ur tutorial. hv to read more as this stuff is quite new to me..haha...
hv to figure out when i get my hands on it.
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Too bad i dun hav two lines. If no,t i definitely gonna try that out. Double the speed!
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ok..out of topic here, Is it just me or im just plain lucky. I'm gettin average 150kb/s download recently, did streamyx just secretly increase our bandwidth again?
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Hi Guys, problem, wat type of file systems u guys actually using? NTFS seems no good to LINUX ... so u guys using ? Ext2/3 or VFS or UFS? ... or any other?
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for me, i'll use Ext3...

to use NTFS, you need to install a software to enable it to read the partitions..don't remember the software name...
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Hi Guys, problem, wat type of file systems u guys actually using? NTFS seems no good to LINUX ... so u guys using ? Ext2/3 or VFS or UFS? ... or any other?
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Generally, it depends on your system bottleneck, ie: CPU bound(cpu too slow) or I/O bound(slow harddisk). Also, type of file (few large files, or lot of small files.) For me, i'll choose JFS or XFS, depend on those criteria.

Some good review:
http://linuxgazette.net/122/TWDT.html#piszcz
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QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Nov 6 2006, 10:03 PM)
err .... hi, still how to get BT/FTP/Direct download working with ClarkConnect or any other ... any idea how? thanks!
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Maybe you have found your solutions, but i'll recommend MLDonkey (link) in the gateway/server, and install Sancho (link) for every client to control the mldonkey. It have the option of direct download (i nvr use this), emule (test for downloading some files, the speed is ok), and bittorrent (no protocol encrypt or dht, but can still reach max speed provided that the seed is plenty, and if u are connected with malaysians it gets better >_> *streamyxcaps*)

QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Nov 17 2006, 10:13 AM)
Hi Guys, problem, wat type of file systems u guys actually using? NTFS seems no good to LINUX ... so u guys using ? Ext2/3 or VFS or UFS? ... or any other?
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Define 'no good'? Are you mounting/adding a new drive in ur CC box? Currently my setup consists of 2 harddisk. 1x40gb for CC install and temporary downloads/storage, 1x250gb for permanent storage. The 250gb drive is from one of main PC running windows, and it use NTFS. I can't format that drive because a lots of things in there, so i just keep it as NTFS.

To mount it under clarkconnect, i use Fuse (link) coupled with NTFS-3g driver (link) then share the drive via samba for network access and file management. Both fuse and ntfs-3g need to be compiled and install however.. and I don't remember the steps (can check out here), but i can guarantee that it works flawlessly so far with my setup. However, I don't know how to defrag/scandisk the ntfs drive with this kind of setup except for removing it and plug in back to any winxp machine tongue.gif
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Just a question, if my Bios can recognize a USB drive as "hard disk" (and can boot from it)... would it be possible to install this on the usb drive itself? (this way I can save one hdd biggrin.gif)
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I think it is possible since it can boot from it, but I never try that. Maybe u can try and report back to us biggrin.gif
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i am studying how to use this tool.. however for expert such as u all, mind to download and try this tool at http://www.vyatta.com/

I'll quote the website as below:

The Vyatta Open Flexible Router (OFR) is a complete open-source routing & firewalling solution that is available as familiar, ready-to-deploy software and appliance products. The OFR delivers:

* Savings of 50% or more over similar proprietary products
* A flexible, extensible system that can be customized to meet a variety of different needs
* A "boot-and-go" live CD that makes installation and operation a breeze
* A 2 Gbps routing solution ideal for mid-range LAN routing and branch office applications
* An easy-to-manage solution with both GUI and CLI interfaces


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I thought linux doesnt support write NTFS natively?
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I thought linux doesnt support write NTFS natively?
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NTFS-3g should be "safe enough" for most operation. Read, write, delete.. most of it works without any problem. I've been using it on laptop for sometimes already, though i don't recommend it for servers... The only missing feature is defrag or repair NTFS.
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hehe, yeah. i'm using it in my clarkconnect. so far no problems and it works great. but like mokona_modoki said, it doesn't have defrag/chkdsk function. wink.gif

anyway this is just a temporary solution until i got a new HDD (planning to add another 250/400gb to the cc box), transfer all the files to the new hdd and then format it with linux fs.
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Has anyone ever figured, can the software router be installed in a virtual PC and the same PC be used as the client? :?
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Has anyone ever figured, can the software router be installed in a virtual PC and the same PC be used as the client? :?
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It's possible. And there's someone out thr doing it. Though i didnt tried it personally. They used Vmware. Here's a tutorial on it with Pfsense
http://pfsense.bol2riz.com//tutorials/vmwa...all/vmware.html

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yo.. tongue.gif

got my old pc and have successfully setup ipcop on my machine with

233 Mhz
32MB EDO ram
2G HD

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I did it yesterday nite and it took me ard 1 hrs from slotting the NIC card to successfully install and connect to net.

Here is what i want to ask. How to telnet into the server? using which port? I'm using putty. Tried yesterday but cant connect? any clues blush.gif
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It uses SSH (not telnet?), go to your IPCop webadmin, and start the SSH service (System -> SSH, enable SSH, and then save). Then fire up your putty, enter your ipcop ip address (or hostname) and use port 222.

By default the Ipcop SSH service is off, and its port is 222. Hope this helps smile.gif

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thanks angeldothack. It worked like a charm rclxms.gif

now is there a way to limit the banwidth for certain PC in the network? once my housemate start downloading stuff, the whole internet connection becomes inaccessible.. rolleyes.gif

I would like to read the ipcop site. But i'm too bz nowadays, in fact i just reach home now!! So looking around here seeking some short cuts tongue.gif
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my joy short lived... vmad.gif now i cant boot up old comp!!! the screen went blank when booting halfway cry.gif
i'm bek to my zte modem with router mode.

sigh...... sad.gif
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man...try plug out the EDO ram and put it in different slot...

that trick always work fine for old pc, in my case...
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I've just swap my ip-cop wif pfsense, coz of a thunder. My 2 NICs, modem, telephone, one port in my switch went kaput~ sad case..
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well found out that the fault is due to power supply... Imagine a power supply that is 10yr old!! I dont think that ppl will sell this kind of power supply anymore.... cry.gif

syyang85, seems like pfsense need higher end pc.. I dont think my 32mb ram able to support it.. sad.gif
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oh yeah.. finally i have time to do this..

PIII 733Mhz
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ClarkConnect 4.0 doing Web Proxy 30GB Max Cache brows.gif running smoooooooooth and it's freaking blardy fast when u load those websites where you've visited before thumbup.gif Port Forwarding also damn easy to do rolleyes.gif

And now.. here's a question.. how do i setup my box to sync with DynDNS.org ? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(ah_chak @ Dec 8 2006, 12:40 AM)
oh yeah.. finally i have time to do this..

PIII 733Mhz
256MB SDRAM
40GB HDD

ClarkConnect 4.0 doing Web Proxy 30GB Max Cache brows.gif running smoooooooooth and it's freaking blardy fast when u load those websites where you've visited before thumbup.gif Port Forwarding also damn easy to do rolleyes.gif

And now.. here's a question.. how do i setup my box to sync with DynDNS.org ? unsure.gif
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How do I get this thing to work as a wifi AP ?
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QUOTE(ah_chak @ Dec 8 2006, 12:40 AM)
oh yeah.. finally i have time to do this..

PIII 733Mhz
256MB SDRAM
40GB HDD

ClarkConnect 4.0 doing Web Proxy 30GB Max Cache brows.gif running smoooooooooth and it's freaking blardy fast when u load those websites where you've visited before thumbup.gif Port Forwarding also damn easy to do rolleyes.gif

And now.. here's a question.. how do i setup my box to sync with DynDNS.org ? unsure.gif
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Not sure abt Clarkconnect, but in ipcop thr's a menu or page dedicated for syncing dynamic ips, adding host, and bla bla bla...
just look around. smile.gif

QUOTE(karhoe @ Dec 8 2006, 01:10 AM)
How do I get this thing to work as a wifi AP ?
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Just buy a wireless router or WAP and connect it to ur third NIC and it wud be called the BLUE network.
Or if u wan to get ur hand dirty doh.gif and your card support hostap, it can be converted to Access Point.
http://hostap.epitest.fi/
As for me, i wud just buy a WAP or wireless router. icon_idea.gif

anyway, lately I've been playing wif these monitoring tools lately.
Index of /Linux/software/IPCop/Tools/Net Traffic Monitoring
http://phst.ph.mahidol.ac.th/Linux/softwar...0%20Monitoring/

here a sample:
Iftop
user posted image

Nload
user posted image

Iptraf
user posted image

Bwm-ng
user posted image

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Question i want to ask:-

Is it possible two have two streamyx line, two modems , and two NIC of course, connect it with this software so that we have double the bandwidth for the user?









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Question i want to ask:-

  Is it possible two have two streamyx line, two modems , and two NIC of course, connect it with this software so that we have double the bandwidth for the user?
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yes~ But its a different distro. Its called pfsense, it support dual-wan.

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hey guys, i'm trying out the pfsense now and i got a problem here..My AM300 modem configure as bridge mode only and DHCP off. i dunno y my PPPoE cannot connect in pfsense. What is the problem here? Try modem in router mode and DHCP on, pfsense WAN use DHCP also no luck!

AM300 modem --> WAN
PC--> Switch ---> LAN
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hmm....thr's shudn't a problem. works fine for me
how u print screen ur connection page. let me see what went wrong.
or did u connect to the correct NIC?
red interface is the one connected to the modem.
green is connected to you switch

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hmm....thr's shudn't a problem. works fine for me
how u print screen ur connection page. let me see what went wrong.
or did u connect to the correct NIC?
red interface is the one connected to the modem.
green is connected to you switch
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My LAN show the IP 192.168.1.1 but the WAN show NONE (PPPOE). I try to connect from the WAN interface but nothing happen! unsure.gif Still NONE! It won't dail!! dunno which part fail. I even try switch the interface but still same.

ur pfsense works fine even using the Live CD to boot and b4 u install it to hdd?

When I try to boot the Ipcop i got kernal panic error!! doh.gif haha..hai..dunno wat to do oredi rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(cyberic @ Dec 15 2006, 10:24 PM)
My LAN show the IP 192.168.1.1 but the WAN show NONE (PPPOE). I try to connect from the WAN interface but nothing happen!  unsure.gif Still NONE! It won't dail!! dunno which part fail. I even try switch the interface but still same.

ur pfsense works fine even using the Live CD to boot and b4 u install it to hdd?

When I try to boot the Ipcop i got kernal panic error!!  doh.gif haha..hai..dunno wat to do oredi  rclxub.gif
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Have you tried to re-burn the ISO and try again? I faced this problem before and it's caused by poor quality of the media, burning at a slower speed usually helps smile.gif

re-install your pfsense and try again, this time, unplug and re-plug your network card on a different slot, my clarkconnect also faced the same problem initially, couldn't even detect the interface! laugh.gif re-seating them solved that problem smile.gif
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finally!! i try it on another PC and is working now!! rclxms.gif nice!! i dunno wat happen with my 1st old PIII box..it just won't work..maybe is the m/b problem..not sure

currently, running on PIII 933 with 256MB RAM and 4GB SCSI HDD. I think 4GB is enough oredi...i think i better use my 40GB hdd for storage better..hehe

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does this fork 4 windows???im blur here...
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QUOTE(cyberic @ Dec 18 2006, 10:40 PM)
finally!! i try it on another PC and is working now!!  rclxms.gif  nice!!  i dunno wat happen with my 1st old PIII box..it just won't work..maybe is the m/b problem..not sure

currently, running on PIII 933 with 256MB RAM and 4GB SCSI HDD. I think 4GB is enough oredi...i think i better use my 40GB hdd for storage better..hehe
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Welcome to the DIY router community. anyway, hows the performance?

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What do u mean?

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guys.. im abit confuse.. how do u turn ur box to a router? so means how many NIC would i need on my computer which i just converted into a router? Just say if i want to connect to 3 PC to the router

modem==> p2(router) ===> pc

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You'll need at least 2 NIC to convert a computer to a router.
To connect to 3 PCs, add a switch in between

modem==> p2(router) ===> switch====>pc
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Welcome to the DIY router community. anyway, hows the performance?
Performance wise..dunno ler..my still can't surf net after long overnite BT session with or w/o the traffic shaper (pfsense show around 4500 state...I'm still exploring the traffic shaper option) hmm.gif Dunno whether is my pc problem...after restart pc can surf net oredi. I never restart the pfsense box except i reset the state.

Do u know the traffic shaper optimum setting for 1MB line/ BT/ surf net? Pls let me know any other tips and trick if u know any smile.gif I was busy painting my house, no time to really test or configure it properly. Tomorrow i should some time to visit the forum or testing the pfsense options.

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QUOTE(ANGELz @ Dec 21 2006, 05:26 PM)
guys.. im abit confuse.. how do u turn ur box to a router? so means how many NIC would i need on my computer which i just converted into a router? Just say if i want to connect to 3 PC to the router

modem==>  p2(router)  ===> pc
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If u r using/ testing pfsense..pls remember that cheap NIC is not recommended smile.gif Try to get 3com 3c905 or Intel pro 100 or higher NIC. (this 2 NIC support ALTQ feature = QoS) Pls google for more info on NIC that support ALTQ in FreeBSD.



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erm.. guys.. instead of using a switch.. i have a aztech 600EW.. do u think that can use a switch? at the box it says it has a 4 port 10/100 auto MDIX switch. If its possible to support.. then is it recomended? cos i want to find a alternative to my current aztech router.. after few hours of BT.. i cannot surf, need to restart the router only can surf..
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QUOTE(ANGELz @ Dec 22 2006, 02:20 PM)
erm.. guys.. instead of using a switch.. i have a aztech 600EW.. do u think that can use a switch? at the box it says it has a 4 port 10/100 auto MDIX switch. If its possible to support.. then is it recomended? cos i want to find a alternative to my current aztech router.. after few hours of BT.. i cannot surf, need to restart the router only can surf..
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Yup! u can use the wireless and the switch function if u want..just disable the router function and ur DIY router as gateway smile.gif
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can we integrate adsl modem with it?...
i mean is there any DIY solution for adsl modem?.. smile.gif

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just found.. we need to add on this device isnt it?..
http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.do?product_id=21
http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=DSL-W3805

so one can throw away their adsl modem already to cut down the electricity cost..

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QUOTE(cyberic @ Dec 22 2006, 12:34 AM)
Performance wise..dunno ler..my still can't surf net after long overnite BT session with or w/o the traffic shaper (pfsense show around 4500 state...I'm still exploring the traffic shaper option)  hmm.gif Dunno whether is my pc problem...after restart pc can surf net oredi. I never restart the pfsense box except i reset the state.

Do u know the traffic shaper optimum setting for 1MB line/ BT/ surf net? Pls let me know any other tips and trick if u know any smile.gif I was busy painting my house, no time to really test or configure it properly. Tomorrow i should some time to visit the forum or testing the pfsense options.
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i see, it might be due to the fact that ur RAM is not enuf. As u know, BT is godly that uses any maximum connection possible for the sake of downloading and uploading. . Dead connections arent removed, and new connection are added. Your state table gets bloated. I think u might hav to refer to this link for a short term solution. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9007281

QUOTE(cyberic @ Dec 22 2006, 12:40 AM)
If u r using/ testing pfsense..pls remember that cheap NIC is not recommended smile.gif Try to get 3com 3c905 or Intel pro 100 or higher NIC. (this 2 NIC support ALTQ feature = QoS) Pls google for more info on NIC that support ALTQ in FreeBSD.
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Actually kan, most NICs out thr in the market would do. and the Qos is controlled by linux.

QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 22 2006, 05:04 PM)
can we integrate adsl modem with it?...
i mean is there any DIY solution for adsl modem?.. smile.gif

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just found.. we need to add on this device isnt it?..
http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.do?product_id=21
http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=DSL-W3805

so one can throw away their adsl modem already to cut down the electricity cost..
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yup, you'll need a PCI dsl modem for that.
unfortunately PCI dsl modem or internal dsl modem is not popular in M'sia, hard to find one,
i bet when u ask those noobs working lowyat shop abt a PCI dsl modem, they sure shoot u back with ignorant high tone stating that no such things, and they think u are noob. LOL back on them tongue.gif

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another oss routing suite..

http://www.quagga.net/about.php
formerly known as Zebra..

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i see, it might be due to the fact that ur RAM is not enuf. As u know, BT is godly that uses any maximum connection possible for the sake of downloading and uploading. . Dead connections arent removed, and new connection are added. Your state table gets bloated. I think u might hav to refer to this link for a short term solution. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9007281
Actually kan, most NICs out thr in the market would do. and the Qos is controlled by linux.

yup, you'll need a PCI dsl modem for that.
unfortunately PCI dsl modem or internal dsl modem is not popular in M'sia, hard to find one,
i bet when u ask those noobs working lowyat shop abt a PCI dsl modem, they sure shoot u back with ignorant high tone stating that no such things, and they think u are noob. LOL back on them  tongue.gif
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Well, 256MB should be enough for 5k-10k state. (my pfsense show max around 4.5k state) It could be other things...not sure yet...no time to dig in to the system log and check. Maybe i will just add in another 256MB RAM n see how.

About the NIC, i was refering to FreeBSD ALTQ supported card (pfsense is base on FreeBSD)...not all NIC that can support ALTQ. Another thing is not all NIC chip are equal...their real world through out performance is different when using different chip. Don't expect a RM20 NIC can out perform a more expensive NIC like 3COM or Intel.

Even u do find a internal ADSL modem, remember to check whether got driver support from the DIY OS of ur choice.

Too many things to read..too little time!! biggrin.gif



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It's true that not all NICs perform equally (my friend got burned off a bunch of unmetered 100mbps servers he's renting as the onboard VIA Rhine NIC maxes out at 92mbps). However, when you're talking about some lowly 1Mbps link, seriously any NIC will do.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Dec 22 2006, 11:08 PM)
It's true that not all NICs perform equally (my friend got burned off a bunch of unmetered 100mbps servers he's renting as the onboard VIA Rhine NIC maxes out at 92mbps). However, when you're talking about some lowly 1Mbps link, seriously any NIC will do.
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got one question regarding the hardware. I prefer to boot the software tru usb-drive (pendrive), considering only new motherboard can support usb-boot features so old platform like PIII is out from my list. On thing in my mind, most of the new motherboard uses ATX power supply, so whenever there is power failure we need to turn on the machine ourself rite? This is not a good news for dedicated router (unmanaged 24hr router).

So, anyone have a solution to make ATX power supply to work as AT power supply? Mean that it will boot up without the need to press power button manually (whenever there is power failure eg blackout etc)...


Nevermind...i found the solution already...

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Need 2 network card , i have an onboard one , so just add another at the pci slot ?
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Hi to all,

I'm bek after missing for sometime. anyway i got another comp. and install it with ipcop. Here is the spec,

Pentium 200Mhz
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I've been using it for a week. and it work like a charm rclxms.gif

I've did some reading and I'm planning to do 2 things.

1. BT server - meaning install the bit torrent client and download files using the server and not using my laptop

2. File server - Samba maybe?

but there is some concerns, will my pc spec able to support all this?? will it hang or become slow? unsure.gif

What web torrent client should i use? torrentflux? or there is a better client? wink.gif

well i dont think i can test out the BT server thing in the coming weeks. If you know what i mean. whistling.gif






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im quite new to linux and i'm trying to test to install ipcop on virtual machine before getting an old machine to really do it. so far i'm able to get it running. i'm trying to get some programs to work in it, for example webserver and BT server.

but how do i compile and install from source ? ipcop doesnt have any development tools. i tried compiling in ubuntu and then copy it to the ipcop but it cant work? how do i do it?
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so... it's Linux based rite...? so have to format and install linux...? then need better LAN card...? cuz i kinda not confident wif old pentium 2... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 9 2007, 06:29 PM)
so... it's Linux based rite...? so have to format and install linux...? then need better LAN card...? cuz i kinda not confident wif old pentium 2... sweat.gif
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old pentium 2 is sort like old ferrari car running m0n0wall!
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 9 2007, 06:29 PM)
so... it's Linux based rite...? so have to format and install linux...? then need better LAN card...? cuz i kinda not confident wif old pentium 2... sweat.gif
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check this out. Pretty intresting ..
http://www.graynetwork.org/ddwrtx86/
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check this out. Pretty intresting ..
http://www.graynetwork.org/ddwrtx86/
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syyang85, the newest version support PCI Wireless Card and it's a paid version.
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QUOTE(ldragon @ Jan 12 2007, 10:01 AM)
syyang85, the newest version support PCI Wireless Card and it's a paid version.
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hey syyang, do you have any idea how to route my local IP to a Domain in the internet ?
I read the guide you made before, but that requires ipcop which i dont have any extra computers to work on.
So im wondering whether i could change any setting on my router so it'll work ?
Im using a DSL-G604T D-link router though.
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For those interested,

I got a bunch of conexant pci adsl modems for sale. Works out of the box with ipcop and 100% supported.

Rm30 -new- ( cd, manual, phone wire and sealed card) PM me.

I tested it this weekend with IPCOP 1.4.13 and installed without a clitch. Fully compatible with streamyx. COOL stuff.
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QUOTE(zeehond @ Mar 12 2007, 01:50 PM)
For those interested,

I got a bunch of conexant pci adsl modems for sale. Works out of the box with ipcop and 100% supported.

Rm30 -new- ( cd, manual, phone wire and sealed card)  PM me.

I tested it this weekend with IPCOP 1.4.13 and installed without a clitch. Fully compatible with streamyx. COOL stuff.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/NetworkingRelatedItems

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If I would to have wireless with ipcop , I just need add another NIC as blue interface and plug the Wireless AP ???

I wonder I can buy a normal wireless router and straight away connect to the blue interface ?? will it work ?

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Mar 10 2007, 02:51 PM)
hey syyang, do you have any idea how to route my local IP to a Domain in the internet ?
I read the guide you made before, but that requires ipcop which i dont have any extra computers to work on.
So im wondering whether i could change any setting on my router so it'll work ?
Im using a DSL-G604T D-link router though.
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Last time i tried it on DSL-500T. The linux distro installed in dlink router is Busybox.
Too bad it wont work. =( Prolly it cant save the information I've entered. Maybe its installed in a ROM. not sure, just my guess.

QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 13 2007, 10:48 AM)
If I would to have wireless with ipcop , I just need add another NIC as blue interface and plug the Wireless AP ???

I wonder I can buy a normal wireless router and straight away connect to the blue interface ?? will it work ?

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As for me, i would choose to use WAP(wireless access point, its something like a wireless switch) rather than a wireless router.
Because when you use a wireless router, its behind NAT service and your ipcop uses NAT service too. And your computer will be double NATed. That would a make port forwarding a hell.
Anyhow, you still online and surf the and do your stuffs even you're behind 2 NAT.
Just your choice.

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Mar 13 2007, 07:49 PM)
Last time i tried it on DSL-500T. The linux distro installed in dlink router is Busybox.
Too bad it wont work. =( Prolly it cant save the information I've entered. Maybe its installed in a ROM. not sure, just my guess.
As for me, i would choose to use WAP(wireless access point, its something like a wireless switch) rather than a wireless router.
Because when you use a wireless router, its behind NAT service and your ipcop uses NAT service too. And your computer will be double NATed.  That would a make port forwarding a hell.
Anyhow, you still online and surf the and do your stuffs even you're behind 2 NAT.
Just your choice.
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Why I choose wireless router because its cheap. I don't have any idea why WAP is so freakin expensive vmad.gif

Is there anyway to disable to NAT ?
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 13 2007, 11:21 PM)
Why I choose wireless router because its cheap. I don't have any idea why WAP is so freakin expensive vmad.gif

Is there anyway to disable to NAT ?
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so is still possible to use a wireless router ? so the network cable is connected to the wireless router switch right ?? the WAN port is totally different tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 14 2007, 09:47 AM)
so is still possible to use a wireless router ? so the network cable is connected  to the wireless router switch right ?? the WAN port is totally different tongue.gif
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how about PCI wireless card ?? will it work ??

Anyway !! I just bought a PCI ADSL modem !! It works with my IPCOP !! RAWR !!!
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 14 2007, 01:43 PM)
how about PCI wireless card ?? will it work ??

Anyway !! I just bought a PCI ADSL modem !! It works with my IPCOP !! RAWR !!!
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wow, tongue.gif pci adsl modem??i never heard about that before this??
can give me that model?? brows.gif
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QUOTE(scorps @ Mar 14 2007, 01:20 PM)
wow,  tongue.gif  pci adsl modem??i never heard about that before this??
can give me that model?? brows.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry10644595
there u go Rm30 cheap cheap cheap
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 14 2007, 06:19 PM)
so u buy it already,
and can u share to me how about the performance??
and if you have manual ,can send to me??? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(scorps @ Mar 14 2007, 06:43 PM)
so u buy it already,
and can u share to me how about the performance??
and if you have manual ,can send to me??? notworthy.gif
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performance ??? just the same tongue.gif

u need the manual ?? for ???

those are instruction how to install the pci adsl modem with windows platform
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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 14 2007, 11:40 PM)
performance ??? just the same tongue.gif

u need the manual ?? for ???

those are instruction how to install the pci adsl modem with windows platform
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can give or not? shakehead.gif
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found the pdf version of the manual !! Google ROX !! rclxm9.gif




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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 15 2007, 11:32 AM)
found the pdf version of the manual !! Google ROX !! rclxm9.gif
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oh man .. I took for a while to understand how to use winscp man rclxub.gif

I google about it only I know have to enable the SSH from IPCOP web configuration rclxub.gif

I think better highlight it at the first page of this thread rclxub.gif


Added on March 15, 2007, 9:25 pmwho knows how to use the vpn function ?

ding dong !! Anyone ??


Added on March 21, 2007, 12:36 pmI there any DMZ feature for ipcop ?

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QUOTE(wilson88 @ Mar 15 2007, 01:38 PM)
oh man .. I took for a while to understand how to use winscp man rclxub.gif

I google about it only I know have to enable the SSH from IPCOP web configuration rclxub.gif

I think better highlight it at the first page of this thread rclxub.gif


Added on March 15, 2007, 9:25 pmwho knows how to use the vpn function ?

ding dong !! Anyone ??


Added on March 21, 2007, 12:36 pmI there any DMZ feature for ipcop ?
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Added on March 28, 2007, 1:41 amHas anyone one tried Vyatta community router? www.vyatta.com
it boasted on having 50% more efficiency than cisco router.
someone me help on setting this up. its all command based. and i suck in unix.

i read the tutorial, http://www.vyatta.com/documentation/1.0/Vy...rt_R1.0_v01.pdf
and i dun understand a thing. =(


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hi guys ~~

can some1 tell me how to make tis DIY ROUTER into more easy so tat i can follow step by step rather than jumping around here and there to memorize ~~~

nice and thank you for the person who reply into more nice and simple step to ceate it ~~

i know is good ~~ but rather than i got to click here and there to follow the guide ~~~~~
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dude, no free lunch... if you don't try it yourself with click here and there, then you won't learn, doh.gif

The Perfect Linux Firewall Part I -- IPCop
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QUOTE(nxgame @ Apr 3 2007, 11:38 PM)
hi guys ~~

can some1 tell me how to make tis DIY ROUTER into more easy so tat i can follow step by step rather than jumping around here and there to memorize ~~~

nice and thank you for the person who reply into more nice and simple step to ceate it ~~

i know is good ~~ but rather than i got to click here and there to follow the guide ~~~~~
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OMG ~~~ yet i am totally dunno eveything about LINUX ~~~

can soem1 help me into tis ?????


a small note to create a DIY ROUTER are really that hard ????
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Hmmm... since the TS didn't mention this, there's an x86 (aka computer version) of dd-wrt. Good for noobs perhaps? It won't offer that much functionality, probably, but since it is linux, you probably could super upgrade it (if you're good at it).
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QUOTE(nxgame @ Apr 5 2007, 07:37 PM)
OMG ~~~  yet i am totally dunno eveything about LINUX ~~~

can soem1 help me into tis ?????
a small note to create a DIY ROUTER are really that hard ????
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rolleyes.gif I thought i made a step by step tutorial, didn't I?
screenshot by screenshot for god sake. If u cant even understand that, then God helps you.

QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 5 2007, 08:29 PM)
Hmmm... since the TS didn't mention this, there's an x86 (aka computer version) of dd-wrt. Good for noobs perhaps? It won't offer that much functionality, probably, but since it is linux, you probably could super upgrade it (if you're good at it).
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Cause you know what, ddwrtx86 has many limitations. and the ddwrt has Better off with my good old ipcop. =D

take a look at this http://www.bitsum.com/about-ddwrt.htm


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Hi,

First of all thanks for sharing, I notice that you are recommeding ipcop. But just want to know if ipcop is capable of bandwidth monitoring per ip address? Eg. I want to know which computer is downloading a lot.

Currently I'm thinking of using freesco, but ipcop looks for friendly but freesco has the addon for network monitoring i think it's called darkstat.

Thanks for your help in advance.

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waaa...interesting.. my pentium 133 will be taken out from the underground storage.... hahahaha.... tongue.gif
TSsyyang85
post Oct 10 2007, 06:30 PM

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Well, Updates!
Smoothwall 3.0 code-named Polar Bear couple months ago.
but i didn't had to chance to use it cause my old pc went K.O.
Now, that i have a new spare pc, i installed smoothie.

The new version is amazin. the upnp function just works!
and the talk abt real time traffic graphs!
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post Nov 21 2007, 11:48 AM

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any simple software can do qos in xp?
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post Dec 6 2007, 06:36 PM

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yes there is. lots of them. want me name them?
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post Dec 8 2007, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Oct 26 2006, 08:09 PM)
Why buy an expensive router, when you can make it your by your own with an old computer.

Because the power and cooling costs will make up for the up-front hardware savings. For RM150 or less you can get a low-power solid state box to run a router on; cheaper in the long run.
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post Dec 2 2008, 09:38 PM

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Hi

Is there anyone knows how to open closed port if iam using the public wifi

Thanks

 

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