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samkps
post Jun 29 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jun 29 2015, 01:24 PM)
boss, are u a sg long resident? do u know the twin palm exit... to uturn wastes at least 5 min on that long road with so many bumps and turns.
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boss, I presume it's hard for SILK to make justification for putting in money to operate another booth for such U-turn as there is already one available just next to it (though can save 5 minutes in this context).
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post Jun 29 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jun 29 2015, 01:28 PM)
which is good for silk as they all pay rm1 right? and still will be more convenient than pusing pusing in twin palms (btw that tunnel frequently flood at heavy rain). and takes some cars off the main road from sg long to saga.
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Rather than operating a new toll booth for U-turn, I think it's much better if there is a small roundabout to be put straight after the tunnel to connect back to the Silk highway directly..

This is even more cost feasible I presume..

Now this portion of SILK perhaps still under-use, but there are a lot of developments in vicinity, as a matter of fact, I presume in future many people from Semenyih will use this portion of road as well..

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post Jun 29 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jun 29 2015, 01:41 PM)
boss, can use existing booth smile.gif
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If use existing booth, means the U-turn is after the Twin Palm toll.

In addition, to go into the booth, it can take one lane, but when car makes U-turn, you need to spare a space at least 2 lanes..

SILK may need to expand the toll booth or going further down for such U-turn..



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post Jun 29 2015, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 29 2015, 02:03 PM)
you will see trailer making u-turn there soon  hmm.gif
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Gosh.... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif expecially those 10 - 12 wheels one..

Scary...
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post Jun 29 2015, 03:14 PM

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Still the same problem.. doh.gif doh.gif


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post Jun 29 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jun 29 2015, 02:17 PM)
May be can build something like u-turn at Jalan Besar Seri Kembangan to prevent it happen.
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U mean the U-turn near to BHP?
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post Jun 29 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jun 29 2015, 03:55 PM)
This is just an example, I hope the politician especially DAP be more pragmatic, asking Silk to allow u-turn before toll is unrealistic but allow u-turn after toll with one way fee is more acceptable for both Silk and residents.
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Hopefully it will be realiazed one day..

Personally I think it will be hard for SILK to make such justification since the twin palm tunnel which just next to it can serve the same purpose. Anyway, let see how it goes..
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post Jun 29 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 29 2015, 04:16 PM)
when Twin Palm residents complain high traffic and affecting their life then only see how it goes  sweat.gif
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I think currently still not many Sungai Long resident using the twin palm U-turn.. Let see how it goes after Bukit Sungai Long exit open..
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post Jun 29 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jun 29 2015, 04:23 PM)
Yup, for the time being Harp Artist's proposal definately has higher chance of success than u-turn before toll, we also don't want to disturb Twin Palms resident too much..
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Hopefully SILK not greedy and asking double payment if they provide such U-turn in future..

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post Jun 29 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jun 29 2015, 04:29 PM)
They have nothing to lose as Twin Palms tunnel only need to pay one way fee all this while. Of course, we need influential politician to exert pressure on Silk.
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Yeah, because I think SILK know that's not convenient (a lot of bumps, turning etc, as being claimed by other forummer).. That's why if the twin palm route can be used, why SILK still need to do extra?

As a matter of fact, I presume twin palm has "paid" quite substantial amount to have such tunnel. SILK won't simply allow peoply bypass the toll, they may "request something" if really they allow such U-turn.


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post Jun 29 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jun 29 2015, 05:02 PM)
Of course no one want to use the twin palms way, it freaking  wastes time and petrol
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lol, compare to the jam, i think this is till bearable...
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post Jun 30 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(greenmoon @ Jun 30 2015, 11:32 AM)
will change it  shortly...shame to have this useless ID...stay tune
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post Jul 1 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jul 1 2015, 12:18 PM)
Not only Semenyih but the whole South Greater KL area such as Putrajaya, Cyberjaya, Semenyih, Kajang etc..
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Silk only have 4 toll Plaza: Sungai Ramal, Sungai Balak, Bukit Kajang and Twin Palm Sungai Long...

The sudden surge of the revenue implies that more and more people actually migrate/commuting to Kajang / Semenyih / Bangi area, which serve as one of the most important highways for commuting within this area.

If taking RM 1 as average per vehicle, that's mean more than 40 million vehicles pass through these 4 toll plaza, or representing 3.3 million commuting traffic per month or more than 100 thousand per day..


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post Jul 1 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jul 1 2015, 02:40 PM)
Yup, the southern part of Greater KL is booming, if Silk is smart enough it should allow u-turn after toll with one way fee in order to encourage Sg Long & BMC residents to pay toll, nowdays both township use the highway at no cost unless they want to go south. tongue.gif

Understand from the website:

KAJANG SILK Highway, not only reduce traveling time for traffic between North and South of Kajang but also, makes to and from Kuala Lumpur, Cheras, Sg. Long and Balakong, Putrajaya, Semenyih, Bangi, KL International Airport and Seremban most convenient.

http://www.silk.my/about/about.html

To capture the KL bound road user which is much more than Semenyih bound and improve their bottom line Silk need to be more generous.
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Lol... If Silk smart enough, just build a flyover near the exit and put toll booth there, guarantee another surge in the revenue next year.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jul 1 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jul 1 2015, 05:10 PM)
You mean flyover bridge across the highway? a lot of cost involved woh rclxub.gif
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It's a good return investment, not a cost.. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jul 1 2015, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jul 1 2015, 05:15 PM)
I really hope Silk will do it but I doubt it  biggrin.gif
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hehehe, depend "how smart" SILK could be..

By the way, if SILK allow a U-turn after the toll, wondering why Twin Palm want to build a tunnel instead?

Just make 2 U-turns, one before and one after already can serve the purpose, rather spending huge amount of money for digging the tunnel...


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post Jul 1 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(d0j0b @ Jul 1 2015, 06:30 PM)
I think the initial intention to build the Twin palm tunnel is meant for Twin Palmians usage, but eventually it is open to everyone to use for U-turn purposes. So everyone needs to pay RM1 to use the tunnel to U-turn to SILK highway.  biggrin.gif
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That's why I am wondering if SILK wants to involve in such hassle since the currently available U-turn road just beside it..
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post Jul 2 2015, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jul 2 2015, 08:05 AM)
Lol, basically there is only very little cost involved if allowed u-turn after toll with one way fee, it kill two birds with one stone ie improve traffic/profit/cash flow and relieve the pressure from a component party of Selangor government to demand u-turn before toll.

Compare to building a flyover after Bkt Sg Long exit, this proposal is much more cost effective and can be implemented in short time.
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Yeah, true.. building a U-turn along the highway toll booth (if allowed) is good.. Why Twin Palm never propose this but spend millions of ringgit to build a tunnel instead?

Presumebly there must be some bargain in between that can't achieve mutual agreement.. brows.gif


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post Jul 2 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jul 2 2015, 04:21 PM)
coz TP high end project, tunnel much classier than u turn. also u turn too dangerous as need to straight away turn left, uturn will end up on right side of highway. but of course cannot compare to setia alam, ecocity or ecohill, dediacted flyover (serious, no sarcasm intended, i am huge admirer of sps infra)
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Tunnel with flood issue is more classy? hmm.gif Cost wise flyover is much more expensive than tunnel? hmm.gif

There can be a lot speculations I presume.. I think SILK is the most key party in this context... What they want, what they need, what their suggestion to twin palm, we will never know, unless insider.. hmm.gif

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post Jul 2 2015, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jul 2 2015, 04:43 PM)
tunnel confirm more classy than u turn. costwise tunnel sure most ex, unless there the land got problem building flyover...but can build condo at sutera pines so shld not be the issue. maybe lumchang thinks tunnel makes the place look green as road is hidden whereas flyover is big and noticeable (pure speculation here).

imagine if sg long access had tunnel or flyover or even uturn as opposed to all the redyellowgreen lights  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Well, tropicana also should be given a credit then, for their generous flyover along the SILK highway..

That's why I feel surprise when LumChang said they want to build a tunnel conneting both side of his housing..

Perhaps this is the most feasible method all the parties agrees, without prejudicing each other benefit. Building a flyover before or after the toll plaza also will create some hassles to different party... Of course, my speculation as well.. tongue.gif

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