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Good Job vs PhD, The Ultimate Predicament
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TSfiredauz
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Oct 26 2006, 12:21 PM, updated 20y ago
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Let's just say by example; there is this one little boy who is doing his doctorate degree via sponsorship @ after he finish his study, he is secure to return home with a steady job & a good 4-figure income (per month). Promotions and salary increment follow suit over the years of service, of course.
But right now this boy suddenly is stuck in a predicament.
Recently he just got an offer oversea to come for a 2nd interview to a 5-figure income (per month), and things are looking good for him to get that job @ kinda like the job that every teenagers can ever dream of getting, and the boy knows this well because he once held the position at a different place, though at a 4-figure income.
In your opinion, which one should the little boy choose?
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suppaman
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Oct 26 2006, 12:35 PM
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5-figure income job. If I were the boy I will go there straight if and only if the job is legal. Illegal job then will go back 4-figure
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lawsh
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Oct 26 2006, 12:58 PM
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hmmm a better salary which you have experience why not, just that its overseas right? it all depends on whether you are able to cope with the overseas life  if i had that kind of offer i would have to make sure that i can bring my wife along lar
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SUSsanook
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Oct 26 2006, 01:16 PM
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I think you guys need to define what is a good job to begin with. earning a lot of money from a job does not automatically make the job good. not everything in this world are measured in terms of ringgit and sen. many are searching for job satisfaction too, a job or a profession in which they can achieve something in their life, or fulfill their dreams. there are lawyers and engineers who quit their job in order to learn and direct their own movies, to become artists, dancers etc. you all sound very misguided here unless the description of "good jobs" is changed to high-paying jobs.
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SephirothX
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Oct 26 2006, 01:21 PM
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Nowadays ppl are just getting so obsessed with money, that is why high pay= good job. Not to discriminate anybody, but everybody's being lazy.
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cktwai
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Oct 26 2006, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Oct 26 2006, 12:21 PM) Let's just say by example; there is this one little boy who is doing his doctorate degree via sponsorship @ after he finish his study, he is secure to return home with a steady job & a good 4-figure income (per month). Promotions and salary increment follow suit over the years of service, of course. But right now this boy suddenly is stuck in a predicament. Recently he just got an offer oversea to come for a 2nd interview to a 5-figure income (per month), and things are looking good for him to get that job @ kinda like the job that every teenagers can ever dream of getting, and the boy knows this well because he once held the position at a different place, though at a 4-figure income. In your opinion, which one should the little boy choose? Take the job even if it's not 5 figure.... Studying PhD is a total waste of time unless you're planning to go into the education field (i.e. lecturing). Trust me on this. I know some PhD holders without jobs and forced to go into education line. Also in M'sia ppl don't pay PhD holders that much... you just take a wild guess how much they pay...
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darrencw
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Oct 26 2006, 01:37 PM
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are u interested in pursuing the PHd? how old is the boy now? is he single or married? how about his financial situation? this makes alot of difference.If he's 20 and he gets his phd by 22.Don't u think he'll come out very outstanding? it depends on alot of factors.Which is more important to you, social status or moolah?taking ur phd will earn u moolah and reputation.But Phd is no easy thing.
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Dr Nara
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Oct 26 2006, 02:45 PM
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I got my PhD at the age of 24. I took 6 months off and went on holiday and at the same time thought very carefully on what I wanted to do and I am content with what I am doing now. I think you need to ask yourself what it is you want to do and where do you think you would see yourself in 5 years. Good luck!!
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Lucifer_Light
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Oct 26 2006, 02:53 PM
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People had told me that once you get a PhD, live is easy because people will want to get you to be on their Board of Directors and you don't have to do anything but let the money roll in. That is what my teacher is doing now... he had stop teaching and now playing golf. Haha.
What will you get of this good job other than the satisfaction and high pay? Will there be a chance for you to climb higher into the ranks of society, or will you be stuck in that job forever?
5 digit salary, any teenagers dream, overseas... the only occupation I can think of is game tester, haha.
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p4n6
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Oct 26 2006, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Oct 26 2006, 12:21 PM) Let's just say by example; there is this one little boy who is doing his doctorate degree via sponsorship @ after he finish his study, he is secure to return home with a steady job & a good 4-figure income (per month). Promotions and salary increment follow suit over the years of service, of course. But right now this boy suddenly is stuck in a predicament. Recently he just got an offer oversea to come for a 2nd interview to a 5-figure income (per month), and things are looking good for him to get that job @ kinda like the job that every teenagers can ever dream of getting, and the boy knows this well because he once held the position at a different place, though at a 4-figure income. In your opinion, which one should the little boy choose? I think the boy should come back since he is under sponsorship, without the sponsorship, he is no one.
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chamelion
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Oct 26 2006, 03:00 PM
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If 5 digit but need to be oversea, then must think carefully cause that 5 digit may not enuf for "same living std" that you have now at oversea. Pls check the living std the country you going 1st.
Eg. RM10k but stay in london = crap, cause freshy in london std easily RM14k/month.
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judge-the
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Oct 26 2006, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(cktwai @ Oct 26 2006, 01:32 PM) Take the job even if it's not 5 figure.... Studying PhD is a total waste of time unless you're planning to go into the education field (i.e. lecturing). Trust me on this. I know some PhD holders without jobs and forced to go into education line. Also in M'sia ppl don't pay PhD holders that much... you just take a wild guess how much they pay... agreed with you there. phd is only usefull if you are into education like me  so if that person got no passion in teaching/education then better grab the other job offer
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darun
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Oct 26 2006, 05:59 PM
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As someone else pointed out PhD is almost worthless here in bolehland but if your Uni is reputable then its worth quite a lot in developed countries. As for the high paying job, you'd wanna find out more details about it, i.e. work environment, career advancement in the company, etc. Just because its high paying doesnt mean its worth it. You might end up working a in a very specialized role without much career opportunities or advancement, heck here in bolehland sometimes high paying jobs means you are taking on 2-3 persons worth of workload which if you break it down to pay/hour isnt really worth it.
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kb2005
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Oct 26 2006, 08:53 PM
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I still think good job is the most important regardless of qualification.
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Seventh7
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Oct 26 2006, 09:53 PM
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if the new job offer a good career path, a good future and a stable career, then go for the new job, otherwise, i think its better to pursue the phd.
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mIssfROGY
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Oct 27 2006, 12:37 AM
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waste money and time unless u r in the lecturing or educational field...else, over-qualified, people wanna hire u also scared.
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Lucifer_Light
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Oct 27 2006, 10:24 AM
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But PhD got pangkat wor... in my field la. (Not education field, I'm in medic field) And then people invite for you to give a 10 min talk pay almost 5 digit number.
And sounds cool right: Nobel Laureate Professor Dr. So-and-so...
Haha.
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RBR
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Oct 27 2006, 11:34 AM
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keeping calm..
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PhD only gives you a 'Dr' title. It doesn't make you a Professor or good heavens, a Nobel Laureate. So please, don't mix them up. Maybe professors get some decent remunerations by giving speeches, but as a general PhD holder, no way.
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Mavik
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Oct 27 2006, 02:05 PM
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Patience is a virtue
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QUOTE(Lucifer_Light @ Oct 26 2006, 02:53 PM) People had told me that once you get a PhD, live is easy because people will want to get you to be on their Board of Directors and you don't have to do anything but let the money roll in. That is what my teacher is doing now... he had stop teaching and now playing golf. Haha. What will you get of this good job other than the satisfaction and high pay? Will there be a chance for you to climb higher into the ranks of society, or will you be stuck in that job forever? 5 digit salary, any teenagers dream, overseas... the only occupation I can think of is game tester, haha. I got a friend who was a computer game tester with EA in the US, believe you me, after what I heard from them, you wouldn't want to get into that line. The pay is quite bad, you play games for like 14 hours a day and it is not even playing. What you basically do is to repeat the same thing over and over again to find bugs within the game. Imagine crashing your car on all the maps in NFS or playing James Bond and going through a door at least 400 hundred times to make sure that there isn't any bugs. Becareful what you wish for, you might just get it....
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aichiban
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Oct 27 2006, 03:00 PM
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With the money, u can always go part time. Getting a Phd mainly depends on hands on anyway. with the experience, comes the phd if u still have the passion
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