can la if u earn 5k a month, no problem. Last year, I say anything below 3.5k is not worth going there for. Last year when i was there, my room rental was SGD450. Now the same location oredi raise up to SGD1k.....with SGD500, u gotto stay sumwer far away from work, unless your workplace is not in the city. So this year due to rental, anything above SGD4k will be good, or if u r from johor, y not.

in SG, SGD50 can last u a week of food (for me as a gal, maybe guy SGD100 la...and i am a big eater, no starving only on bread) everything dem cheap except for rental. Their food, big portion, FRESH and YUmmy......dollar to dollar everythign is cut in half, sometimes moer than half..wat else can u ask for.

Btw, r u goin thru an agency?

Hmm sounds corny....They r supposed to pay for everything.

oh issit? how come like this ahh.....i tot all companies pay. I think its unfair for us to be paying anything la be4 we even start to earn their money...

ya...these agencies want u fast, as most posts are intermediate.

And wat these agencies usually dun tell u is,

1. U are working under them, but working for their clients.
2. They can throw u anytime after the client duwan u and if they do not have other jobs for u. And u might risk being out of job.

If the SG companies r really genuine, they pay to buy u, not u buy yourself, normal practice anywer. And yes, be4 sign the job offer, demand that they pay CPF to u, make sure its calculated in your basic salary permonth, if u dun care about this, the company is not gonna be bothered remembering either.

Estimate SGD salary...SGD3k + 25% raise = SGD3700 - SGD4000--->but this depends on your market value and experience also. OH and dun forget to include your EPF amount in too. Which field are u in? If IT field...i can roughly tell u how much these agencies willing to pay.

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 6 2008, 10:35 AM

nola...u really shd demand SGD3k+25%+current employer's epf
when they ask u, tell them lo. u get SGD2700.....seriously not enuf la...i dun think its worth the trouble fo goin into SG....too low ler, wont be able to save much, better earn in msia.

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Added on February 9, 2008, 4:04 amNoler..its not the standard rate.....if u like, u can go for 10% or 5% or maybe a paycut...but everyone should think that they deserve a higher rate if they were to go there to work or even when change jobs in msia. Our price is really up to us to put....if u put a high price, u might just get it, else negotiate down. If u put a low price, then nego...your price might even go lower.....and then, when u calculate, is it that worth it to work there at all? If of coz if u r really desperate to go, by all means, put a low price...higher chances of getting a job there.



This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 9 2008, 04:04 AM

more like inflation, not yet recession kua?? rental goin up..and i heard many other things going up as well this year...If recession starts, u see many people getting out of jobs especially banking...but they r still hiring like nobody business right now..

yeayea...malaysia most proly, singapore not yet la...oh but i heard singapore petrol gonna up another 20% soon!......hieezzz wont affect them much tho since their transport system so good...they can always opt for the alternative, unlike us.

yesler...to me i think we shd...but if u think u can survive or if taking less is more worth it to u than working in msia, then by all means do it. To me, i feel that they shd pay me high enuf to make me leave msia coz being away from my family for that kind of money is not worth it. So it depends on each person's preferences.

2.5k got include your epf money or not? You havent include your EPF money into your 3k rite? Btw....if u r working under these agencies, they most proly dun gib bonus also.....did u count in your bonuses?

oh btw.....the clients memang know your salary one....so i think no problem telling them. And Those clients memang duwan to pay high pay, if they can press down, they will press down. Btw, many times, malaysia companies pay higher than singapore companies even after conversion (but usually applies to those who have more than 4-5 years experience in IT especially in SAP/DWH/DBA related jobs)

ya i agree
last time i work at cityhall, stay in redhill..just few stations away also can be quite troublesome, because there is alot of walking going on. Wah if wanna tambah the causeway and the distance from johor to sg to work.....can go gila loo, if bangun lambat, DIE big time...unless you are working near the border ler...then staying in johor will be ok.

and if u calculate, the travelling u pay, pay a lil more to stay in sg.

usually these agencies do not pay u bonus...these are things u gotto clarify with them whether they pay u or not. yeaps..usually large MNCs and it depends whether these MNCs wanna pay u bonus or not. Sometimes u can get lucky where the MNCs convert u to their permanent staffs.

yeaps..online and they do prefer malaysians because its easier for them to interview since we r neighbours.

yeah....btu some contract work got bonus if the company u r working for is generous enuf. many do not know this until they signed the deal. LOtsa benefits also tak ada like CPF/BonUs/etc...so u gotto actually CALCULATE your annual package and include that in your asking salary if u wanna work for these agencies. Because if the end u r losing out alot if u dun and realised too late that u are not earning much more in singapore.
Terence, for your case, i think its not worth it la.....they paying u how much and wats your current annual package in Msia?

hmmmm is 2.7k worth it?
The living expenses there dem high oredi woh...anything below 3.5k is not worth ler...... dun forget to calculate your annual package instead of permonth.

ermm...depends on your current market value of coz. It varies from field to field.

sorry, i shd rephrase this. It really varies from cases to cases. For my case, I mean it does not justify the time i am spending away from my family for that kind of money. Its just too lil. If i wanna be away...it gotto be alot more and not what i can also earn in malaysia. And in malaysia, i do not need to pay rent, or makan out. For me, i calculate that also. Besides...most work in singapore for malaysians are contract base...they do not include bonuses/epf/etc and long term security with the company, they can kick you out anytime. but then again, its up to u guys. Sometimes, neva try neva know. When go there oredi you might have a better luck such as getting a better pay job or permanent jobs. Good Luck guys


btw..wat i realised is everybody wana go singapore..and usually they calculate the money after exchange rate....they neva include the living expenses and also the bonus/epf/etc not included in their salary. End up....after calculation malaysia seemed to pay a higher salary. So these people usually willing to take a paycut in SGD thinking that its still higher...but in actual fact its not worth it unless u r thinking of migrating or dun mind being away from family or wanna start a life in singapore. But if u r going purely for the money, its not worth it. But if u r getting an offer which is higher than your salary perannum in SGD, by all means go ahead. Just informing you guys not to be too excited when get offer and jump.

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 27 2008, 10:31 PM

I am not asking everyone to demand 3.5k...i am just saying if u can earn more than 3.5k in sg...go ahead. Less than that not worth it to me. To me, If less than 2 years experience and cannot earn more than 3.5k = Dun go lor
But thats me la....coz i calculate everything....i put money above everythign else if i were to be away from my family becoz i dun like to be away from them. For me....i need to be earning alot more to justify the time i am away from them.

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 27 2008, 10:40 PM

oh then in your case, go to singapore
Are u already in Singapore?



This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 28 2008, 12:16 AM

AnimeAsia;
Dyong is right, but then again these are the agencies i am warning everyone about. They can kick u out after the companies do not wan your service, but then again on the bright side.....u might get permanent with the company u r working for if they like you, or u can start looking for permanent jobs when u r there coz its easier if u r there. And u can always raise your concern to the agencies about not being hired anymore after the contract with the company is over...see what they say about that....maybe they can help u.

Dyong;
goof wife?? y do u say that? because i am calculative?? I am like that in nature..

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 28 2008, 12:36 PM

ermm..no ark..very easy....mom was a SPR be4...when she passed away, very fast they send me the money. No hassle. Even epf also very easy...but slower than SG CPF.

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Added on February 28, 2008, 5:22 pmMeaning your salary include CPF oredi.

Example:
SG salary SGD1500 include employer's CPF inside the SGD1500
MY salary Rm1500 + another 11% employer's epf = RM1665

And yes, if u become PR, they will deduct your salary for employee's CPF as well as Employer's CPF into your CPF because your salary included both employee's and employer's part. This is one of the little things that they didnt tell you.

This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Feb 28 2008, 05:25 PM