So you all say he did signal right.. He just signal 1second before he turn... Teach me which undang say he can do that while I'm still moving forward?

So it means you can turn immediately when you turn on your signal? This kind of accident everyday happen




Everyday... same time... same location... same song... but this time different situation with road rage...

While enjoying my 泡沫(bubble) - G.E.M. with the jam...

Suddenly BLG 6060 try to make a turn where he thinks he can just turn whenever he want to...
he try to tell me he got switch his signal and I should give him way to pass.. he want me to back off...

problem is behind queuing 100m long.. he expecting everyone to back off just to let him pass.. wtf?

if the car in front me has stop I would have stop too and make space in between to let car pass... but the car in front me is moving I have no reason to stop there...


from starting till the end I just look at him let him sendiri talk sendiri syiok...

This post has been edited by JayLeong: May 27 2015, 12:52 AM

He's not wrong.. ts should just give way

there is no way to give...notice I can just reverse abit??.. behind my car almost kiss my ass because of this A hole
he can just go straight and is the same road he will go...

U know he is gonna turn.

Segambut ah ?

Yes is segambut... who know he is going to turn... I'm not his stomach worm... he just turn without stopping and signal at the same time...

I know, u know, he know.
I duno, u know, he know.
I know, u duno, he know.
I know, u know, he duno.

The list goes on.

Can clearly see ma.

By law he need to stop when making turn... correct me if I'm wrong

By law, hmmm i dont know much bout it. You should stop there and wait for law enforcer to be there to have his say.

First ... know ... duno.
Now law.
Whats nex.

*** edit ***
Two wrong doesnt make's one right.

This post has been edited by ShadowR1: May 16 2015, 01:32 AM

berhenti dalan petak kuning...

nobody should stop a car on yellow box.

but somehow, this is due to traffic light rosak, so everyone is going to their own direction without bothering, which i dont feel wrong.

anyway, putting signal doesnt mean u can do anything.

there was once, at a roundabout, raining heavily, a stupid foreigner couple driving Alza just makan into my lane from right to left after putting signal (everyone is driving 20-30kmh), and langgar my rear bumper, he came down to confront me, very fierce, asked me hey why u didnt see i put signal. i dont even know he put signal as my car is in front of him, so i screw him back with vulgar words, he act cool, and then drive away.

thank God that day i drive my everyday car instead of weekend car, so hati not so sakit even kena bumper.

I did not stop on the petak... I was moving... the car came and make me stop on the petak..

you should give way maa ... so slow ...

this traffic light 365days 24/7 also like that...He forced me to stop on the box.. my car in front is moving so I move..if he stop... the car on the left wouldn't be able to move... and 2-3 cars already pass...

Malaysian style... signal means everything... show signal means they no wrong...

This post has been edited by JayLeong: May 16 2015, 01:59 AM

petak kuning le sengal. ko pon follow the flow jugak

I was going to release my clutch to go already lucky I dint.. if not will be kissing

petak kuning tapi xde stop ok....

dont be a douce liao like dem car follow the flow. just stop fo minute wheter got car wanna belok or not.

that's how we reduce the jam time... letting 1 car cut in from left and 1 car from right...this will not cause so long queue...
are you kidding me stop for a minute? if my car infront me is not moving then is different story.. there will be space for me to stop
car on my right is going straight and this car suddenly came fast and not slow

I guess that's how you make the traffic jam..

TS, are you saying if the car is not there to block you ... you will be able to keep moving without have to stop in petak kuning ?

Its a figure of speech la kawan.

U should have let him thru instead of follow the front car as if u can clear the yellow box..with that it will ease the traffic from the other side too..

Ure wrong in this case bro..

if you stick close to the car in front, this won't happen cos no gap for the fella

This road not human use one. Very jam. I use alternative to menjalara from kl.

you're in the wrong la. just give way la then settle edi. courtesy ada? selfish.

THIS. ^

At that time, the traffic is moving, so TS should have sticked nearer to the car in front so by the time traffic stays still, TS is already at the other side of the yellow box.

I would say the van is wrong because the van was driving recklessly compared to TS who was merely driving ahead in a moving traffic.

UNLESS if the traffic is clearly RED, then TS should be stopping behind the yellow box. But this is not the case because the traffic is still moving.

The van definitely has the right of way (to turn right). But the van driver was reckless too.

But if you watch the video carefully, the van also try to cari pasal recklessly by trying to barge in knowing well that he can't go through the gap in the first place because TS was already halfway in the yellow box blocking the van's path to turn right.

If the van driver wishes to turn right and has enough courtesy, he should turn after TS has pass through. Looking at the video, when TS was about to move, the traffic TS was in was already moving. It just happened that TS was slow enough to accelerate that allowed the van to recklessly barge in.

In this case, the action of the van driver blocked everyone as a result. The van driver can't move (because the gap is already small) and TS can't move as well.

The van driver should have turned slightly further in front instead of barging into that gap.

This post has been edited by Blofeld: May 16 2015, 06:03 PM

U stop in petak kuning.. u are at fault.

That's more clear for my story.. Well said...

I'm driving a manual and that time I was just using the clutch to move my car instead of stepping the gas.. That's why abit slow... If I step my gas I'll be boosting and kiss the car infront...(mine is a mod car btw)

And the more kiasu driver is they keep stepping the gas and brakes to keep close enough to the front car and not letting others pass during a jam..

Segambut ktm there I use most of the time.. Not so jam than this road...

No problem.

As long as the traffic is still moving, those moving ahead has the right of way instead of the one who turned.

By right, those cars on the left at the junction should give way to you too. And the van on the right should stopped to give way to you too instead of simply barging in knowing well that the traffic is still moving. I could see that the van did not even slow down before turning right.

Also, the van driver keep pointing at his indicator lights. By showing the indicator lights, it still didn't give him the right of way. He still have to stop to wait for you to pass through since your traffic is still moving.

The van driver was just taking advantage of the situation since you accelerated slowly.

UNLESS the traffic has come to a complete standstill or if the traffic light is red, then you should NOT be in the yellow box.

This post has been edited by Blofeld: May 17 2015, 10:25 AM

traffic light at fault
TS at fault
Van driver at fault

rule of thumb, no stopping at YELLOW BOX

actually if you focus on both . Both are wrong. TS not suppose to stop on the yellow crossing lines.

2nd since TS is on main road TS have the right of the road.

3rd the van number plate is wrong can report

4th TS is also wrong he know he cant cross he still stop on yellow line

dua dua bodoh

Haha..
yellow box.. you know the traffic is slow and there is a possibility you cannot make it further in front due to slow traffic in front. Use some common sense pls.

Be considerate lah. Dont block others. Lucky that fella never whack you. i know you didnt mean to block but next time make sure there is enough space For you to move.

what i notice, when it come into this situation (kaput traffic light), everyone is a b******d. Nobody will give way.

In this situation, especially IN Malaysia, i feel this situation is 50/50.

Should give and take. But that guy was a dick who initially tried to quickly swerve in like that.

You should either stick closer to the car in front of you or let the van pass if the gap between you and the car in front is not close and wide enough to let the van pass. In this particular case, the gap was too wide. You should have stopped and let the van pass to ease the traffic congestion.

dua dua bodoh

TS bodo ke ape....

Not dua dua bodoh, is the authority bodoh. Build road half way then stop, nvr do some real planning.

If u been using that road u know what am I saying.

I'm with this.
But the order of fault is
Trafficlight
Van
TS

TS still on the main road, van yg melulu masuk simpang.

Let him pass la, it's not like the traffic ahead is smooth anyway. Plus feel like slapping TS for moving so slow and when the van tried to cut in accelerated for no reason. Give and take la

Traffic infront is smooth just watch the video again if you all not happy.. Who don't know we can't stop on the yellow box... The van never cut in like this I never stop on the box.. End of story.. Use your eyes see further..

If the traffic is not smooth PLEASE EXPLAIN to me how did the 3-4 car on the left passed infront of me?

How do you accelerate when you leg is on the brake pedal.. Already pressing half way on the brake pedal
You think I driving with my left leg on brake and the right leg on gas pedal?

I can't cross and stop on the box is because of the van

The van indeed signalling for right turn earlier on.
TS should have given way for him... especially when road ahead is quite jam.
Basic driving manner I will say.

Agreed!

TS you obviously know the way you heading will Jam, why not just let people pass first?
You have not courtesy of giving way to people yet dare to post a video defaming people. He can sue you for defaming.
Malaysia should less 1 driver like TS, greedy bastard.

This post has been edited by GearX_SaM: May 18 2015, 01:49 AM

I think rootcause is the traffic light down.

He already signal from far, can see from video clearly, yes he's wrong for not stopping, but he took the turn before you are even blocking a clean space for turn, you allowed your "D" drive to automatically drive you forward till it limits the lane for him to turn, I think both of you clearly at fault.
Plus please take notice that you stopped on a yellow box. Shouldn't you wait at the white line and don't stop inside a yellow box if you already seen a incoming vehicle going into the box.

2cents: both party clearly wrong

This post has been edited by StorMx: May 18 2015, 01:50 AM

I know is jam and I know the car infront me is moving and that is why I move..
Malaysian drivers like you always cut in the space in between the car that was suppose is for braking distance that's how the accident happen..
if I'm greedy I'll be stepping the gas like want to kiss the car infront and not letting other pass

I'm driving a manual and is gear 1 position..
His signal time is 1second before his turning..
The first moment Im on the box is just the front wheel only and everyone can pass.. Car infront me move and I move just simple as that. I never make my car both front and back wheel totally stop in this box ever in my life

Still at this ... serious TS ???
If u think he is so wrong n u r right ... pls make a pulis report since u din make a call to the law enforcer at the scene.

This I have to agree. Since ahead of you so jam and van signal from far seems like it's your fault.

Even the van didn't block you, you end up blocking the van causing jam

Wiating some back fire for ts

Owai aldy so many

TS salah cuba menegakkan 2" yang sememangnya 1" sahaja. Topkek.

Ts wrong, should give way. Oh well...

Seriously I hate this kind of mentally.
There is no right or wrong here actually. Is about COURTESY of giving way.
No doubt TS is a very EGO person.
Stop giving excuses like driving manual or gear 1 bla bla bla. Wrong is wrong admit it.

first ever serious kopitiam popcorn thread, i still confused.. so both car got kiss boh?

looks like we still have so many dumbasses on the road here in msia. yellow box memang la tak boleh berhenti, but ts didnt stop on the yellow box. he was stopped. know the diff? no? then go take english class again. the traffic was moving, so he had every right to move. unless the guy who wants to go in angkat tangan and asks nicely to go in. works for me everytime, bcs sometimes got people who are slow to follow the moving traffic, like ts

1. even without sufficient space (1 car slot) after the yellow box, you're allow to rush ahead? which undang again?
Try this at LDP -> sunway pyramid turning, I gurantee you ppl will ram hon you till u...... faint. polis may say hello

2. Using hand is more powerful than car signal? Again undang mana ni megat? Undang-Undang Jalan Raya Syathibi 1990? Why hand nicer than vehicle signal LoL.

This post has been edited by StorMx: May 18 2015, 11:30 PM

when did ts rush ahead? he was moving at 5-10 km/h. watch again, and tell me if its rushing ahead. the only thing that i see thats rushing is the van. who gave you the right to go into a junction after youve given the signal? people like you will cause accident. same case on a straight road/highway, give signal, instantly tukar jalan. 'genius' type

dude, when did i say not to give signal? you got reading comprehension failure, brah? signal memang kena bagi, then wait, then if you see that car is moving/following traffic ahead slowly, you can ask nicely to go into the junction by lifting your hand. you dont know? im teaching you now

Yup

The traffic is still moving and TS has the right of way to move forward. Those cars on the left should give way to TS too. But because of them, they are causing the traffic to move slowly.

The van was trying to barge into the gap knowing well that traffic is moving forward. Showing the indicator light doesn't grant him the right to turn recklessly.

So I wonder why some support what the van is doing. The van driver is clearly driving recklessly. He didn't even bother to stop for a while before turning.

If I were the van driver, I wouldn't just turn right recklessly like that. Before I turn I have to make sure there is no incoming traffic that would put myself in danger or others from the incoming traffic.

What if there is a bike coming between the cars (blindspot), then it would just hit the van.

Yup

I am always in that position of the van driver in my neighbourhood. I need to turn right to get into my neighbourhood but I don't turn right recklessly like that van driver.

Just because I have already put the signal, that doesn't mean I can just simply turn right. That would cause an accident like what the van driver did.

When the traffic is moving fast, I have to wait until the traffic comes to a complete standstill (or if there is no incoming traffic), then I turn right.

Or sometimes the traffic is moving slowly, i just need to wait for someone from the opposite lane who is courteous enough to stop behind the box to let me turn right first.

Then again, I cannot simply turn right immediately, i have to check carefully if there are bikes coming between the cars. Once everything is clear, then only i turn right.

This post has been edited by Blofeld: May 19 2015, 02:38 AM

btw what are you doing in the middle of yellow box. if you know already jam, drive slower or stop until traffic cleared in front

Aiya traffic light rosak jus let ppl pass la. Tolak ansur the world will be a better place

Gangster.

This post has been edited by Gamer88: May 19 2015, 04:18 PM

The van driver is impatient.
What I can see is;
1) the van signal was tad bit last minute (ts is still moving when he first signalled)
2) TS is on the yellow petak already and moving (slow, but moving)
3) the van seems to be accelerating to take the turn.

ask urself. If u are at the van's POV, do you stop before the yellow petak and wait for TS to pass through first or you'd do the same?

Ok ok If I rephrase before u make new undang2 jalan again.
You can go ahead and move straight if you dont have a clean spot (size of a car) after the yellow box?
No contingency ?

Which law ask you to use hand when driving a vehicle? JPJM? JPJ Megat division?
You obviously stated that hand is more powerful than car signal no? Hahahaha

Yellow box applies when the traffic light is working. Since the traffic light is not working, all hell breaks loose. Everything becomes instinct after that.

The van is more in the wrong but if TS wanted to have less problem, he could have stop as soon as he engaged 1st gear. I know its inconvenient but it can be done. If u stopped your car at second 23, the van could have passed through.

just give way la... go straight u stuck also

TS still stubborn eh?

Well, typical malaysian leh.

Can block like tat? Should leave some space for at least car turning left or right can squeze through..and kancil already few feet from ur vehicle..the van was behind yellow box waiting..he saw a gap and tried to turn make a turn and u accelerated..tak mgkn dia mau jalan terus if hes waiting at that spot..

from my point of view, no vehicles are allowed to stop at yellow lines

If it was me I also would have stopped at 0:23 and give way to the van driver, and wait for the left part of traffic to clear.. Like j said, move straight also will get stuck might as well wait

can clearly see hes turning la ts, just be the better guy and stopped la, u rush forward everybody stuck.

People stopping on yellow box.. hmmmmm....

you next time tampal tu KETE POLI$....sure no bully...

yellow, red, white, green, blue... ..ALSO you correct.

jalan kiri tu kosong kot...bagi die jln la, ko ke depan pn sangkut jem jugak....die masuk lagi laju dari ko ke depan...slow gile.

the guilty party is the ones responsible for maintaining a safe and orderly flow of traffic on the countries roads. The van driver was being a bit over dramatic. All we can do is be thankful that no one was injured. The traffic conditions are getting worse by the day.

just give him way la you lose nothing

Wow TS typical asshole idiot driver.

Although the van driver was a little drama queen coming out of his vehicle (LOL for a sec I thought he was namewee anyone think so)
But the lane he was turning into HAS NO TRAFFIC AT ALL.

The direction you are heading is totally jammed up, yet you had to move your car into the yellow box.
The result is van cannot turn right into his way, and his vehicle will block EVEN MORE cars behind him, worsening the traffic situation.

Conclusion, OP really go learn some common sense maybe go learn undang again because clearly you bought your license.

Since the OP will argue, I made this picture just for you.

1. Blinker from van was clearly turned on showing his intention to TURN INTO A ROAD WITH NO TRAFFIC. Check

2. Enough clearing for van to proceed turning INTO his intended direction without blocking traffic. Check

3. Decision OP made? Move into box and block everyone, and you're accusing him of being the road bully?

If the van drive is a road bully then you sir, are clearly a road moron.

Not to mention my brake pad is already botak... not I don't want brake...is already so serious that the pad is scratching my rotor even 10% stepping on it...THAT is why I keep distance in front of my car..
to those keyboard warrior you should try this road once... use this road before you firing someone..

and btw the video you saw there is space in front of me? yes the space for me to brake is because my pad is already empty

this junction here the traffic light has already been long disabled more than a year..if you passby this road..

JUST THINK TWICE IF YOU SAID TRAFFIC IN FRONT ME STOPPED WHEN I BLOCK THE VAN..THEN HOW DID THE CAR FROM LEFT KEEP GOING WITHOUT STOP?

YES HE DID SIGNAL AT 0:23 AND MAKE TURN AT 0:24 JUST THE 1 SECONDS.. I‘m speechless.. THIS IS WHAT MALAYSIAN DRIVER DO..

MY FIRST STOP AT YELLOW BOX NOT BLOCKING ANYONE AFTER CAR IN FRONT OF ME MOVE I WAS ABLE TO CROSS THE BOX WITHOUT STOPPING.. IS JUST BETWEEN THE 2 SECONDS HE WANT TO TURN HE MADE ME STOP.. THE AUDI IS FROM 3 CAR BEHIND THE QUEUE AND HE CAN PASS ME!! WHY?? BECAUSE TRAFFIC IN FRONT ME IS MOVING.. EVEN IF I STOP IMMEDIATELY HE CANT PASS! WHY? BECAUSE THE CAR COMING ON LEFT IS BLOCKING AS IN THE ROAD IS SINGLE LANE... 2 CAR OCCUPYING THE LANE.. THE VAN HAVE TO PASS BEHIND ME IF HE WANT TO CROSS..MY CAR ALREADY HALF WAY IN THE BOX AND HE WANT TO CUT IN..

Yes you saw space in front of me...but can you see my car front how long? is a waja.. you think my car is short by looking at the video?.... the space is just enough for me to brake.. but can you see the side? no. Because my eye viewing angle is wider than the camera.. I saw everything.. car on my left is already blocking and he can't pass



use the road if you yourself don't even know this area and what happen here everyday.. I've been driving this road more than 5 years

ps: showed this video to a traffic police friend of mine and he said i'm wrong at first stop(okay I admit).. by the time I can move the van came in and block the van is at wrong because he did not stop before he turn...1-2 seconds he putting on signal before he making a turn is wrong..

This post has been edited by JayLeong: May 23 2015, 03:54 AM

If I go straight stuck.. how the audi queue at left behind 3 cars can pass me? you call that stuck? is slow moving not stuck

Ts really bodoh. If the traffic is smooth why are you blocking the van? Its because you are too slow only he have chance to turn by stopping at the yellow box you are already wrong.

hahaha.. small matter la.. actually the one going straight has the right, the yellow box would not count since traffic light is broken..

as ts say, signal does not give you the right, you still need to look.. don't believe you can ask traffic police..

eg, if you signal and switched lane, then if someone hits your rear right after that, its your fault.. happened to my boss, she argued with traffic police somemore.. bla bla bla, she pay saman..

A++

TS really stupid and trying to be so innocent...

by stuck i mean you will be stuck in traffic jam also la, u go first or no go first u not gonna reach your destination immediately like there's somekind of warp portal there.
no saying you the only one that is wrong too. that van also wrong. both also wrong. just curious why u not get out and langsi there
what do you feel when that guy get out of his van? penis got kecut or not? kikiki

This +1! support

Using blinker just 2 meters before turning. No blardy difference. Know it is jam and such a problematic turning turn the blinker on earlier.

Not everyone on the road is courteous meh. If ppl block you go around. No need to dramatize stuff by getting out just to show your blinking lights.

JayLeong

obviously main fault is traffic light, then you, then the van
i am not being bias but looking from both view and also as third person view

you shouldnt stop at the yellow box even the traffic light is rosak.
since you know its traffic jam like this, should have stick closer to the viva.

the way you drive is too relax, mainly due to the song and in airconditioned space I would say.

in yellow box, either you stop outside of yellow box or stick closely to the car in front, but if real bad jam not moving dont stick close lah, coz you will then be stopping inside yellow box right?

that guy also signal last minute one i see.

anyway, because of you, the whole road is jam. give and take la, you new in driving is it?
or ego very high because driving some particular car?
or just plain selfish?

imagine if you stick closely, you would have pass through the traffic light
imagine if you stop outside of the box, people could pass through

stupid ts, u salah still wan blame other ppl, u got license or not wan bro, stopping at yellow box for wat??

i paling benci drivers like u go simply block the yellow box make other ppl cannot turn, niama, still dare to block other ppl road dun let ppl pass,

u shuldnt block the yellow box even if the traffic light rosak, u shuld oni pass if u c thrs space infront n ur car cn go forward, not hogging the yellow box n blocking other ppl frm turning

u r lucky he din come down n bash u up, still dare call ppl samseng, if me i come down whack kao u ledi, mahai, so lansi

Lol backfired.

admit it TS

you're the selfish and the idiot one here

TS u wrong dude. blame ppl..

That fellow damn rude...

IMHO TS, you accelerated to slowly at 0:19.