Hi all taikos and sifus,

It's good to see a lot of discussions here in this forum. I still remember my last post here asking whether to jump ship from construction industry (permanent post) to O&G (contract post), and finally I did.

However, currently I am in dilemma, I am fairly new to this industry, about 2 years of experiences and on contract basis. My contract has been renewed in April this year without salary revision, reason is that industry is in very bad situation (also the reason why I am not absorbed into permanent position although my bosses had recommended my name to the HR). And since it is just 1 year extension, it is more or less about 3 months plus until the expiry of my current contract.

I have discussed with my boss and he cannot guarantee that I will be absorbed into permanent position at current situation, or getting any salary revision next year (if HR approves to extend my contract for another year).
Fyi, my year end appraisal has been quite well, and I think I have progressed quite significantly in my current job. But, the insecurity is always there, and I am really really afraid as I just married early this year and also blessed with a beautiful baby just a month ago.

To shorten the story, I was offered another job, in another industry, as a permanent staff, slightly higher pay (current 3.5k, they offer 3.9k) but NOT as an engineer. So I am dilemma, should I pursue my dream to become a professional engineer in O&G industry, or change course for job security?
If I was a single man, this would be much easier decision to make, but now, having a wife and a baby, permanent position at a new company seems to be a better choice, at least in current O&G situation. I couldn't imagine if somehow my company (local fabricator) decided to not renew my contract. Currently, I am the breadwinner for the family.

Hope to get advice from all sifus here.

Thank you.

Trust me, in OnG, when ppl say will absorb you into the service, it means YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING AS CONTRACTOR FOR AT LEAST 10 years with them. With only 2 years in contract in OnG, sorry to say this: NOT GONNA HAPPEN. NEVER WILL. STOP DREAMING.THERE IS A REASON WHY THERE IS CONTRACT AND PERMANENT IN OnG INDUSTRY.

My advice, stay with the OnG now with minimum 5 years in it (doesn't matter if it is contract), then you can choose to move out to another industry. 5 years exp in a resume will LOOK DAMN GOOD, compared to only 2 years then switch to other industry. Remember, 2 years in OnG vs 5 years in OnG resume is a lot of difference and tells a lot about you.

Should O&G people make a Retrenchment aid fund to  help each other or the unlucky one?

There are part time tutor/trainer jobs available in the market if you have the right qualifications and attitude just in case the contract not renewed.
Do not dream but ACT.

Firstly, thank you for the advice. I really appreciate the effort that u made to response to my post.

However, regarding to the absorption to permanent, apologies if this sounds different as compared to what u said, did happened to my friends, within the same company, at around the same level of experience, just different timing. They got the offer just a little earlier before the oil industry turned into what it is today.

Thanks sir for the advice. But if u were in my shoes, will u take the risks of stagnant salary / losing job when u are about to start a family? And with a contract post, the medical benefit does not cover my family as well, not to mention some other benefits that are reduced currently.

Trust me, in OnG, when ppl say will absorb you into the service, it means YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING AS CONTRACTOR FOR AT LEAST 10 years with them. With only 2 years in contract in OnG, sorry to say this: NOT GONNA HAPPEN. NEVER WILL. STOP DREAMING.THERE IS A REASON WHY THERE IS CONTRACT AND PERMANENT IN OnG INDUSTRY.

My advice, stay with the OnG now with minimum 5 years in it (doesn't matter if it is contract), then you can choose to move out to another industry. 5 years exp in a resume will LOOK DAMN GOOD, compared to only 2 years then switch to other industry. Remember, 2 years in OnG vs 5 years in OnG resume is a lot of difference and tells a lot about you.

Im currently working in national oil n gas company, doing utilities. Despite the oil price fall, my company unit still lunching some new projects. Guess the price fall doesn't hit much on gas n utilities business

What is the job scope under utilities? Is it like building maintenance.

We provide steam, electricity, oxygen, nitrogen etcs to the neighbouring plants (optimal, petlin, ammonia). Our nature of business not much like oil or gas processing plant but we are part of it

We provide steam, electricity, oxygen, nitrogen etcs to the neighbouring plants (optimal, petlin, ammonia). Our nature of business not much like oil or gas processing plant but we are part of it

Im currently working in national oil n gas company, doing utilities. Despite the oil price fall, my company unit still lunching some new projects. Guess the price fall doesn't hit much on gas n utilities business

Thanks for the advice. I guess I didn't make myself really clear just now. I did act actually, and that's why now the other company offered me the job, I applied, attended two stages of interviews sessions,  and thank God I was offered the job. If I am just dreaming, how could I possibly got the new job offer? Or even scored good kpi (exceed expectation ) at current company for that matter?

However, thanks a lot for the advices guys.

Hi all taikos and sifus,

It's good to see a lot of discussions here in this forum. I still remember my last post here asking whether to jump ship from construction industry (permanent post) to O&G (contract post), and finally I did.

However, currently I am in dilemma, I am fairly new to this industry, about 2 years of experiences and on contract basis. My contract has been renewed in April this year without salary revision, reason is that industry is in very bad situation (also the reason why I am not absorbed into permanent position although my bosses had recommended my name to the HR). And since it is just 1 year extension, it is more or less about 3 months plus until the expiry of my current contract.

I have discussed with my boss and he cannot guarantee that I will be absorbed into permanent position at current situation, or getting any salary revision next year (if HR approves to extend my contract for another year).
Fyi, my year end appraisal has been quite well, and I think I have progressed quite significantly in my current job. But, the insecurity is always there, and I am really really afraid as I just married early this year and also blessed with a beautiful baby just a month ago.

To shorten the story, I was offered another job, in another industry, as a permanent staff, slightly higher pay (current 3.5k, they offer 3.9k) but NOT as an engineer. So I am dilemma, should I pursue my dream to become a professional engineer in O&G industry, or change course for job security?
If I was a single man, this would be much easier decision to make, but now, having a wife and a baby, permanent position at a new company seems to be a better choice, at least in current O&G situation. I couldn't imagine if somehow my company (local fabricator) decided to not renew my contract. Currently, I am the breadwinner for the family.

Hope to get advice from all sifus here.

Thank you.

Oh that is because when crude oil price is low, the downstream business is much more profitable due to the simple fact that the feedstock cost is cheap now. That is why you don't see much slow down for downstream side of the industry.

Sounds that you are with CUF-PGB.

Must be CUF. Perhaps the price fall only hit the upstream business. Most downstream subsidiary (except refinery), e.g petchem will benefit from current scenario as they bought at low price and sell at standard/market/high price.

Hi all taikos and sifus,

It's good to see a lot of discussions here in this forum. I still remember my last post here asking whether to jump ship from construction industry (permanent post) to O&G (contract post), and finally I did.

However, currently I am in dilemma, I am fairly new to this industry, about 2 years of experiences and on contract basis. My contract has been renewed in April this year without salary revision, reason is that industry is in very bad situation (also the reason why I am not absorbed into permanent position although my bosses had recommended my name to the HR). And since it is just 1 year extension, it is more or less about 3 months plus until the expiry of my current contract.

I have discussed with my boss and he cannot guarantee that I will be absorbed into permanent position at current situation, or getting any salary revision next year (if HR approves to extend my contract for another year).
Fyi, my year end appraisal has been quite well, and I think I have progressed quite significantly in my current job. But, the insecurity is always there, and I am really really afraid as I just married early this year and also blessed with a beautiful baby just a month ago.

To shorten the story, I was offered another job, in another industry, as a permanent staff, slightly higher pay (current 3.5k, they offer 3.9k) but NOT as an engineer. So I am dilemma, should I pursue my dream to become a professional engineer in O&G industry, or change course for job security?
If I was a single man, this would be much easier decision to make, but now, having a wife and a baby, permanent position at a new company seems to be a better choice, at least in current O&G situation. I couldn't imagine if somehow my company (local fabricator) decided to not renew my contract. Currently, I am the breadwinner for the family.

Hope to get advice from all sifus here.

Thank you.

Hi

Congrats on your new baby! 

BTW there are no 'professional' engineers in the O & G industry. Heck! they don't even bother to register with the Institutions and Board!
There is no O&G section in the Institution of engineers. They are just not bothered.
So essentially most so called engineers here are mercenaries, not professionals. Many are very poor at their so called profession.
But that's just the industry.

Please don't lump all the O&G engineers in one basket. If there are so many "poor", "unprofessional" engineers, you would hear of platform collapses/deaths on a monthly basis in Malaysia. That does not happen, does it?

Most engineers at my company are registered with BEM. In fact, Petronas is very strict about it now.

Hi

Congrats on your new baby! 

BTW there are no 'professional' engineers in the O & G industry. Heck! they don't even bother to register with the Institutions and Board!
There is no O&G section in the Institution of engineers. They are just not bothered.
So essentially most so called engineers here are mercenaries, not professionals. Many are very poor at their so called profession.
But that's just the industry.