what the hell of thread.. just finish reading from 1-30...... 

Just read the whole 30 pages.
TS 's story here really touched me.
Or shud i say.
WARNED ME.
Anyways i really feel sorry for you bro.
Times like this i would ride bike on the highways exceeding more than 200kmh.
Just to feel the breeze and adrenaline.
I know its dangerous to speed that fast but its really good to cool off your head.
Okay, what i want to say is. I have a similiar case as TS.
This girl, i just known her a month ago only.
I met her when she send in her lappy for me to repair.
Instantly i got her contact number. (bla,bla,bla)
And just few weeks she called me again to troubleshoot her pc.
I went into her hostel... And you noe.. Tech stuff.
And in someway she wanted someone to teach her english. I do not know why she wanted me to teach her english coz my grammar also very noobz....
Okay.. To the point... She owaz call me whenever she needs help in her assignment.
For these past few weeks i have been completing her assignments until late night.. maybe 3am- 4am? This has been affecting my current job.. I do not get enuf sleep. But thats okay (from what i think) Im helping her tho. Thats enuf to keep me satisfied.. As time past.. i develop some feelings for her.. I noe that she has a boyfriend and so.. But sometimes.. she would share her moments with me saying her condition between with her bf.. Saying she wants to break la.. etc all that shit... I dont really care much.. I just like spending my time with her.. We do hang out.. And ive been to her hometown more than 3 times... her hostel is the place i usually would meet and find her.. I would occasionally find her after work as my office is just near her place. There are some moments she would just hold my hand.. tease me.. you know those stuff... make fun of ppl 's hair.. wtf.... which i find that intriguing.. Its just that .. she has a boyfriend... I sometimes have thoughts whether do i need to confess to her? Sometimes reading topics like this , i would just stick to being friends but i really like her. I would do anything just to help her. I know myself being used as a doormat but.. not technically... Sometimes she treats me dinner and buy clothes for me.. So i guess thats the return i get.. TS, i need your advice here.

@Evangelistica : bro.. take it slowly... as you dont want to ruien the things.. take it slow.. slow then sure got a time where its so suitable and you know it yourself.. when that click comes.. you know in your heart its time.. its time to move.. Time to improve from "frens" to "lovers"

Take your time.. love need to grow from the bottom of our hearts.. and its something money cant buy... remember.

Is she has same feelings for you then its cool. But if not your friendship is gonna be RUINED. So care man, dont rush into it too fast.  Allow her time to respond.

OWWWH. All these replies is for those who are having the same problem then TAKE NOTE GUYS!!

And 4 years later you're still her b1tch.

TS, i recommend you to edit your 1st post, update the important chronology on the first post. easier to catch up for new comers.

cheers =D its been like forever since 2007

Is that how you would consider a "best friend"? I don't have to question your preference, but that girl, is not even close to be your friend, more like an acquaintance.

Happy too soon.

Expressing your feeling to start relationship is just like Yes or No... If put in 100% commitment it will end up miserable only especially the more success you think the more needle is ready to stab if is fail. Commit only when you are in the relationship circle.

erm ... i just read the first thread. Btw, after two weeks, there were just silence until now?

Girls(Some/Many - depending on your experience) are wicked creature that eats upon men's soul and flesh! Applies to guys as well, but most of the time, what I've heard is that guys kena played by girls, and rarely the other way round. So I guess there's an alpha FEMALE as well?

That's how the filter the leaders and the followers, the alpha males and the doormats. Those that treat her too nice, listen to her, tolerate her bad behaviour/attitude will be placed in the followers and doormat category.

seriously if your generalising your thoughts just because of this. you are missing out alot in life. there are so many factors that could had lead to this. perhaps that so called love of your life is an imature piece of shit. ==. Hence generalising that a beauty will never fall for someone less beautiful, is total BS atleast to me.

owh come mon..... TS.... so easy give up?

i also fall for my best friend... female of coz....
it started back in 2003 lols.... she rejected me for 3yrs straight....
obviously she knew how i felt.... same goes for u....

but persevere on bro~ my best friend was also an angel.... a beauty without comparison~ =)

guess what? after 3yrs of confession without stopping...... which most ppl thought i was an epic phail~

i finally got her~ and now? we've been tog for 5 years man.... =)

dont give up~!

P/S : dont let the past cloud ur future now. All the best TS!

Well... first thing first, give me a high five :')... I was once in your shoe... you know, girl can go close to a guy you know, SO CLOSE that you sometime can even feel that she wants you... but the fact of the matter is this, though it's cruel... GIRL TENDS TO BE SHY IN FRONT OF THE GUY SHE LIKES... girls think a lot, they'll think of how the boy will think of her, will the boy think that she's a slut of something, will the boy notice that she is adorable or something... AND GIRL WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE FIRST HINT WHICH THE GUY SHE LIKES GIVE HER... so, meaning that, if you wanna know whether she's on to you or not... here's some example:

SHE LIKES YOU
You: Hey, you know, lately I feel that I need you in my life.
Her: Really? Wei ~~ don't play lah... don't sweet talk here la
You: I'm serious... I've been thinking about that lately...
Her: Actually I think you treat me so good that I think I can trust you loh
SHE THINKS THAT YOU'RE HER BEST FRIEND
You: Hey, you know, lately I feel that I need you in my life.
Her: Sure or not?? Me where got good... I very naughty de.
You: I'm serious... I've been thinking about that lately...
Her: Of course you need me lah!! If not ar, who want to listen to your joke, hahahaha!!!

Can see the difference ... You can actually sense it from the first reply... if a girl likes you, she'll be sensitive toward every word that you say... another good example is:
SHE LIKES YOU
You: I just met this girl, wow, she's so wonderful.
Her: Really?? Gong xi gong xi wor!!!
You: Thank you! I'm so happy...
Her: Welcome... why she so special?? Got big eyes ar??

SHE THINKS THAT YOU"RE HER BEST FRIEND
You; i just met this girl, wow, she's so wonderful.
Her: Really?? Gong xi gong xi wor!!!
You: Thank you! I'm so happy....
Her: Happy for you ler... she must be very sexy one right. Of course lah, I know your taste 1.
Hope all this will help everyone here

alamak ts.. sorry for my bad words in kopitiam last night.
i donno you r serius. 

ni aku nk cerita kisah aku. bukan nak amik hati ape2. betul2 ni.
i got in the same situation as you too while in secondary school.
to tell you the truth, this girl really really broke my heart. pawned all my Ex gfs..  

warning. karangan in the spoiler below.



so, never ask your friend to become your gf. nak ngorat, ngorat jer. no need to become friends first.
This is my lesson.
How do i overcome this??


i got into many relationships after that.
and about that apprentice girlfriend... i called her in 2009 and apologized for what i maki2 to her way back in 2004 i think..
5 years~.. i`m happy with my life now. my current relationship has been going on for almost 2 years.

Man, I am in the same condition now. Though I have confessed to her, just that, I said, don't say anything. I actually treasure more of the friendship rather than the new feeling of love. Shea god listener and gives nice advice. We click together.

By being a couple I am afraid that I'd loose her if something goes bad. She's open minded about this. 3 guys have confessed to her, rejected, cause she said she's not ready for love yet. I'm the closest to her; most of her friend said so.

Then again I do from time to time, tell her "I love you.". It has double meaning though, love as a friend and love as a man. She loves me too she said, as a friend for now.

I think I am comfortable to what is going on now, just that sometimes, it feel hard since the feeling of wanting to be more than friends is boiling up... I think somewhere in my heart is still want more. Damn I am greedy.

Then again, I don't think I am ready to couple. Such conflict.

Evangelistica,, how is your life now??

In a couple of months, this thread would be TEN YEARS OLD! Wow, I hope the dude managed to settle down with someone.

Nice guy. Come out! Where're u now.