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Questions on Recent Accident Along Duke Highway
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TSDwango
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 May 5 2015, 08:29 PM, updated 11y ago
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I'm a bit late in posting this but just got to know about this news today after coming back from a holiday. Apparently the writeup on Star paper on Sunday was a bit different from the online writeup here http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...t-Family-Death/The writeup of the manner of accident is intriguing and raises some questions. Firstly, it was said that the speeding Myvi crashed onto the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport when the Pajero was struck on the rear when the vehicle was trying to merge into the fast lane. The sentence "when trying to merge into the fast lane" may suggest that the Pajero may be driven at moderate speeds. I was suprised that the speeding Myvi that hit the rear of the Pajero had caused the vehicle to overturn several times as reported. The crash must be pretty bad. Though the driver of the Myvi survived that crash I presume. What baffles me is how can a larger and heavier Pajero Sport overturned several times and the smaller and lighter Myvi seemed to be intact with the driver having "minor injury". Secondly, it was reported that the crash caused the three occupants in the Pajero Sport to be thrown out from the vehicle. Presuming the seatbelts are on, how could that possibly happen? Or the crash is seriously terribly bad that the seatbelts failed to secure the occupants and snapped, causing all three to be flung out from the vehicle? Any thoughts? Really bad news this one as the deceased had left behind two young daughters. |
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TSDwango
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May 7 2015, 12:38 PM
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Read yesterday's papers. The reporting on News Straits Times are more explicit than The Star. It was reported that the lady driver in the Myvi was saying there was insider help from Myvi Club and this had created some havoc and tension as people are slamming the lady on Facebook. Even her home address was traced and published.
The News Straits Times also reported that Myvi Club members are also advised to take off their car stickers for safety reasons. From yesterday's papers it was said that 90% of the investigation was completed. Looks like the Myvi cars may be in racing mode on the fateful day that caused the death of the 3 occupants in the Pajero Sport.
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TSDwango
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May 7 2015, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ May 7 2015, 09:42 AM) Seatbelts don't need to snap for passengers to get flung out of their vehicles, esp when it involves a roll which all the windows will shatter on the first rotation allowing the passengers to be flung out. Our standard 3 point harness is made for head on collision but offers little protection in a roll. For that you need a 4 to 5 point harness used by racing cars that straps you tightly to the seats without any leeway. There are plenty of articles on the lack of safety in our standard 3 point harness in the event of a violent roll over. Good information in that occupants can still be flung out from the vehicle despite having the safety belt on. I was wondering how this could happen but guess only extreme real life situations whereby the car was in a 360 degrees rotation for 2 to 3 times. No wonder race drivers had different seat belt configurations which the body was strapped firmly to the seats. Guess only those who had experience in the race tracks would know. |
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TSDwango
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May 7 2015, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ May 6 2015, 09:27 PM) Yes, you can't turn back time. But these deaths could have easily been averted by something as simple as them wearing their seatbelts. Maybe stability control may have avoided the accident in the first place, but in any case they did not have to be dead, even in the car they were driving. What I am preaching is that by taking a couple of basic security precautions... wearing seatbelts, buying a safe car if the budget allows, you can greatly reduce the risk of dying in a car accident. Nothing to do with fate. All about reducing risk. Even though it can't be 100% eliminated you can lower the risk a lot. If you are doing all sorts of stupid stunts on a bike, do you expect to live long? Drive very fast, weave through traffic, especially in the wet? No. Sooner than later you'll end up in a deadly accident. Call that fate? Well, I'll just enjoy the fact that I'm European and thus fated to live a long life... apparently fate (or God) doesn't like Malaysians. At least the ones believing in fate. You surely are optimistic to know that you are fated to live a long life as a European though your last paragraph revealed your ignorance on the subject matter. As in your usual self you always make silly statements. |
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TSDwango
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May 9 2015, 11:36 AM
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The investigation was already wrapped up by police and experts by now but there was no mention on the details of the accident other than the accused being brought to justice. Looks like the media may not be interested in publishing the details? I only read about articles implementing safety seatbelts for baby seats and a full page on The Star or News Straits Times on MIROS president Dr Wong supporting the use of safety seatbelts and overall driving ethics.
It would be surprising if the driver (deceased) in the Pajero Sport did not have his seat belt on. If it was on, whether the seatbelt had snapped through the impact. Also, there is no mention whether the wife is sitting at the front passenger seat or the back seat. I was wondering why the media did not publish these details. Does anybody have the details or report of the accident apart from the Myvi grazing the Pajero and another Myvi colliding head-on to the Pajero that caused it to overturn several times?
In the news today, saw Siti Noor Aini and Mohammad Fizal being charged at the magistrate's court with Siti covering her face with a scarf.
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TSDwango
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May 11 2015, 02:51 PM
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Still surprising if you just think in the lines of Myvi vs Pajero Sport and the Myvi wins.
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TSDwango
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May 23 2015, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ May 20 2015, 09:29 PM) Where did I say it is fate? Fate does not exist. There is a risk in driving/being on the roads, and that is related to the way you behave on the road, where you drive, what you drive, ... it can be higher, it can be lower. That's all. People who believe in fate, and thus neglect things like wearing seatbelts, buying safe cars, behaving properly on the road, they will live shorter lives. There's proof for that, and it's a big difference. Fatality rates in Europe are much lower than in Malaysia/South East Asian countries. Your post surely sounds stupid. You still don't have a grasp on the definition of the term fate. |
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