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Ericz
post Apr 26 2015, 09:50 PM

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Go study more.
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:52 PM

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Why do theists like to make stupid thread like this which has been answered billions of times? First of all your comparisons are really poorly made. First you talk about trusted creator and then all of a sudden jump to why don't believe in creator.

Secondly, just because it's small doesn't mean it's easy. (pointing to mosquitoes/flies/other insects). An anatomy is a highly complex system. But technically there are already "man made" insects, more like genetically modified, still with human intervention.

Lastly, if you believe in a creator, why do you stop at God? Why can't God have a creator too? Just because you defined "God" as the creator? Then by right it is just your definition and even worst, unproven.
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Apr 26 2015, 09:49 PM)
that is not true, we don't see evolution as god, we don't see science as god, we don't see darwin as god.

we just don't understand if people can see odin, thor, ra,  apollo, or santa as fictional story, how is it modern religion are different from it? it's just fictional story to us.
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Artic Monkeys @ Apr 26 2015, 09:53 PM)
lol chill brah I wasn't being serious pun laugh.gif
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:55 PM

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god is just a name for believer, for scientist, they call nature
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:58 PM

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im a staunch believer in religion. i also believe that gravity is a magical invisible adhesive and the sun rotates around the earth.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 07:32 PM)
If you want buy car, you will find car that make by those trusted car automaker like bimmer and merc. So the car has its own maker or someone that create the car. Same goes to your daily need such a watch, iphone, tv,radio,shoes,shirt, internet, house and etc all have their own creator or someone that make those item. But why you deny that you are also have your own creator that is god.for muslim it call Allah.how come those beautiful forest,ocean,mountain and those complex animal like tiger,lion, cheetah have not create by someone powerful. Not to mention those hot sun,moon and star.what make you think all those amazing thing around you those not have their creator and Terjadi semula jadi. If someone say that their house is semulajadi, you must think he crazy right?
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again and again people like this come out.. not sure if really noob theist, or a troll..
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:04 PM

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Like air or wind. You can feel it when you blow it. But you cAnt see it. You feel the power of the wind but you can't see it. You can't see god but you can see his creation greatness. Not all thing we can see by our naked eyes and think with our small brain. God has set limit to our brain about what we can think and not.

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post Apr 26 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 07:32 PM)
If you want buy car, you will find car that make by those trusted car automaker like bimmer and merc. So the car has its own maker or someone that create the car. Same goes to your daily need such a watch, iphone, tv,radio,shoes,shirt, internet, house and etc all have their own creator or someone that make those item. But why you deny that you are also have your own creator that is god.for muslim it call Allah.how come those beautiful forest,ocean,mountain and those complex animal like tiger,lion, cheetah have not create by someone powerful. Not to mention those hot sun,moon and star.what make you think all those amazing thing around you those not have their creator and Terjadi semula jadi. If someone say that their house is semulajadi, you must think he crazy right?
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because something exist doesnt mean it has a creator. you exist, but you have not been created by nobody. you just came out of your mothers womb after your dad dump his load in it.

even if it has a creator, you still need to prove that there is a conscious being as the creator, and even if that is true, it might not exist in the form of what bible or quran says.

The entire entire holybook's legitimacy lies on its prophecy, if its prophecy is proven to be fake, no one will believe in the holy book anymore. And the bastard that wrote that book, did not give a time frame for its prophecy to happen, which equals to fuck all. If i give a monkey a computer to play with infinity time, the time will come where the monkey produce a literature worthy of william shakesphere. Its not because the monkey has any fundamental knowledge of language, its just a matter of chance. Giving prophecies without setting a time frame = useless prophecy because it leaves it to time to play out the chances.

This post has been edited by Chucknourish: Apr 26 2015, 10:25 PM
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Apr 26 2015, 10:00 PM)
again and again people like this come out.. not sure if really noob theist, or a troll..
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Normally this kind of ppl look for easy answer. They don't read book. Everything is god. Simple answer right?

Science is surround you and your life. But such ppl choose to ignore it.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Apr 26 2015, 10:00 PM)
again and again people like this come out.. not sure if really noob theist, or a troll..
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What is not noob then, share some idea. How do sperm know which direction to swim?

And thus that makes Atheism owned?
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Apr 26 2015, 08:03 PM)
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Just think logically, if you were God, would you allow so many religions to divide people? Worst thing is none of the religions stand out from one another. Religion A,B,C,D, etc all claim to have seen miracles, all try to convert the others. Yet not one religion has a God which can come out and prove that he is THE God that humans should worship. I mean if you were God, would you stand by and watch all the suffering and injustice happening on this earth? Heck you would be like Superman flying around trying to save as many people who cry out to you for help.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 10:04 PM)
Like air or wind. You can feel it when you blow it. But you cAnt see it. You feel the power of the wind but you can't see it. You can't see god but you can see his creation greatness. Not all thing we can see by our naked eyes and think with  our small brain. God has set limit to our brain about what we can think and not.
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air can be proven by barometer

god cannot be proven by any means.

when people say 'see', they dont mean literally.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Chucknourish @ Apr 26 2015, 10:16 PM)
air can be proven by barometer

god cannot be proven by any means.

when people say 'see', they dont mean literally.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:23 PM

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science got learn Atom? molecule?
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:34 PM

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THEN WHO CREATE YOUR GOD?

BY YOUR LOGIC THEN WE'LL HAVE GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 26 2015, 10:34 PM)
THEN WHO CREATE YOUR GOD?

BY YOUR LOGIC THEN WE'LL HAVE GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S GOD'S
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If God can be created, it's no longer God by definition.

how come atheist find this so hard to understand? Something so simple.
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 09:43 PM)
GOD you know what its mean? its mean he is creator and he has make a law that everthing happen and exist must have it own creator. But no one create HIM. Because the law of everthing must have a creator Dia yang cipta. And about if he know we will die at hell why he create us. U know about the word " Jangan persoal". He is the GOD. he have the power. He can create  the storyline that He want for all of us that He want. As a slave, we ask HIM for mercy so that we can die and join those who have fate die and enter heaven. So we ask Him to gv us mercy. He is the boss, the GOD. He can do anything he like. Like the game you play. The creator of the game can make the storyline of that he like.For example, the main character of the game will die at last because he want it. As a player we just follow the flow of the game. jangan persoal.Same goes if you become boss, why you want your worker to tell you to do this do that . You are boss. Jangan persoal anything i did. You x sukak You keluar. Liddat la hehe
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kindy irony, since god can do what he wants yet everyday you're praying and hope nothing bad happen. Asking god for this for that. To sum it up god exist due to human weakness
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post Apr 26 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 26 2015, 10:39 PM)
If God can be created, it's no longer God by definition.

how come atheist find this so hard to understand? Something so simple.
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How do you get this definition? doh.gif
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post Apr 26 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Rotoworldz @ Apr 26 2015, 10:47 PM)
How do you get this definition?  doh.gif
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Is there another definition?

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