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SUSsgshuhu
post Apr 26 2015, 07:32 PM, updated 11y ago

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If you want buy car, you will find car that make by those trusted car automaker like bimmer and merc. So the car has its own maker or someone that create the car. Same goes to your daily need such a watch, iphone, tv,radio,shoes,shirt, internet, house and etc all have their own creator or someone that make those item. But why you deny that you are also have your own creator that is god.for muslim it call Allah.how come those beautiful forest,ocean,mountain and those complex animal like tiger,lion, cheetah have not create by someone powerful. Not to mention those hot sun,moon and star.what make you think all those amazing thing around you those not have their creator and Terjadi semula jadi. If someone say that their house is semulajadi, you must think he crazy right?
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 07:32 PM)
If you want buy car, you will find car that make by those trusted car automaker like bimmer and merc. So the car has its own maker or someone that create the car. Same goes to your daily need such a watch, iphone, tv,radio,shoes,shirt, internet, house and etc all have their own creator or someone that make those item. But why you deny that you are also have your own creator that is god.for muslim it call Allah.how come those beautiful forest,ocean,mountain and those complex animal like tiger,lion, cheetah have not create by someone powerful. Not to mention those hot sun,moon and star.what make you think all those amazing thing around you those not have their creator and Terjadi semula jadi. If someone say that their house is semulajadi, you must think he crazy right?
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By your logic, Game developer is a GOD so worship them?
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:36 PM

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Well different ppl different believe mah, whatever u believe u find it comfortable or suit u then ok lo.
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:36 PM

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To them GOD is Evolution

Also, bukak tered lepas tu went offline

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post Apr 26 2015, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2015, 07:34 PM)
By your logic, Game developer is a GOD so worship them?
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Pipu worship Jobs mah


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post Apr 26 2015, 07:42 PM

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Atheist believe in evolution. so basically they follow darwin theory.


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post Apr 26 2015, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2015, 07:34 PM)
By your logic, Game developer is a GOD so worship them?
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No like that maa. I mean who create you, is your boss your god. U need to follow all the instruction He given. So god has create you, He ask you to worship Him.the one who follow him will get good reward and the one who does not follow him get punishment.Same like those CEO that create their own company. All their worker has to follow all his instruction because he is the one who create the company.you have good performance in your work,naik pangkat get bonus,you ponteng kerja get loss or potong gaji.
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:44 PM

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lets stick to that analogy and think a step further, there has to be someone who make the cars, likewise there has to be something that create that someone and before that there must be someone who create that something. now since god create us, who create god?
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:44 PM

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HERE WE GO AGAIN
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 07:32 PM)
If you want buy car, you will find car that make by those trusted car automaker like bimmer and merc. So the car has its own maker or someone that create the car. Same goes to your daily need such a watch, iphone, tv,radio,shoes,shirt, internet, house and etc all have their own creator or someone that make those item. But why you deny that you are also have your own creator that is god.for muslim it call Allah.how come those beautiful forest,ocean,mountain and those complex animal like tiger,lion, cheetah have not create by someone powerful. Not to mention those hot sun,moon and star.what make you think all those amazing thing around you those not have their creator and Terjadi semula jadi. If someone say that their house is semulajadi, you must think he crazy right?
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Atheist believe in origin, not creator.

Like before you have your metal you know someone needs to mine all the metal ore from earth, refine them, make alloy out of it, shape it into the parts and assemble it in assembly line before shipped to you.
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:52 PM

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i dunno mang.. i mean, life basically started as unicellular microorg. that's Bullshit right?

also, dinosaurs r fake!

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post Apr 26 2015, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Apr 26 2015, 07:43 PM)
No like that maa. I mean who create you, is your boss your god. U need to follow all the instruction He given. So god has create you, He ask you to worship Him.the one who follow him will get good reward and the one who does not follow him get punishment.Same like those CEO that create their own company. All their worker has to follow all his instruction because he is the one who create the company.you have good performance in your work,naik pangkat get bonus,you ponteng kerja get loss or potong gaji.
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Then again why does GOD give you brain to think instead of creating robots just to worship him?

Also, why does GOD give you freedom to make choices and the list goes on.

If GOD is that almighty and perfect, he would already solve the issue at hand instead of dragging it until what we have today. Misunderstanding and such which leads to war and suffering.


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post Apr 26 2015, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Tokyonite @ Apr 26 2015, 07:38 PM)
Pipu worship Jobs mah
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:54 PM

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ohwai whos the creator of the creator?
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:55 PM

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The creator (if any) is so weak and bring more trouble to this world. I better believe myself.
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post Apr 26 2015, 07:56 PM

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why do some pipul r born in royalty n wealth? why do some pipul born poor, retarded or physically handicapped? why do babies get aborted in a toilet bowl while others born under the care of the finest gynae doctors in the world?

why do some pipul born genius while some with lower IQ?

why do innocent people getting killed evryday? babies, children. diseases, war, famine.

why do dinosaurs go extinct? what have they done to deserve total annihilation from the face of the earth?

ini mesti salah yahudi!
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post Apr 26 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2015, 07:52 PM)
Then again why does GOD give you brain to think instead of creating robots just to worship him?

Also, why does GOD give you freedom to make choices and the list goes on.

If GOD is that almighty and perfect, he would already solve the issue at hand instead of dragging it until what we have today. Misunderstanding and such which leads to war and suffering.
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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Apr 26 2015, 07:55 PM)
The creator (if any) is so weak and bring more trouble to this world. I better believe myself.
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 26 2015, 07:56 PM)
why do some pipul r born in royalty n wealth? why do some pipul born poor, retarded or physically handicapped? why do babies get aborted in a toilet bowl while others born under the care of the finest gynae doctors in the world?

why do some pipul born genius while some with lower IQ?

why do innocent people getting killed evryday? babies, children. diseases, war, famine.

why do dinosaurs go extinct? what have they done to deserve total annihilation from the face of the earth?

ini mesti salah yahudi!
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Just think logically, if you were God, would you allow so many religions to divide people? Worst thing is none of the religions stand out from one another. Religion A,B,C,D, etc all claim to have seen miracles, all try to convert the others. Yet not one religion has a God which can come out and prove that he is THE God that humans should worship. I mean if you were God, would you stand by and watch all the suffering and injustice happening on this earth? Heck you would be like Superman flying around trying to save as many people who cry out to you for help.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Apr 26 2015, 08:04 PM
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post Apr 26 2015, 08:03 PM

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Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market-place, and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!"
As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there, he excited considerable laughter. Have you lost him, then? said one. Did he lose his way like a child? said another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? or emigrated? Thus they shouted and laughed. The madman sprang into their midst and pierced them with his glances.
"Where has God gone?" he cried. "I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers.
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post Apr 26 2015, 08:04 PM

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everyday i pray for rempits to die and everyday got rempits die, god exists.
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post Apr 26 2015, 08:05 PM

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in islam, my friend always say may god willing and god has plan on its own.
so i ask him, why bother working to earn more money to inprove life? if u r destined to live wealthily, u no need do anything and still have many money because god willing.
why does good pipu died prematurely but bad guy can live so long? look at those isis militant and serial killers?
why if isis misused islam name for terrorism but god until today have yet to show himself (at least in those militant dream) to tell them they did wrong?

so many why why why. in the end, we human acted on our own free will.
you may not agree but people said religion is for the weak.

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