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post May 7 2021, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(nezumi57 @ May 7 2021, 09:49 AM)
Thanks Adam and simmarjit, i will look into the suggestions you guys gave.
Btw, Adam how long have you been using tuya and is there any frustrating issue? asking because i am fed up with sonoff smart wall switch's ghost switching issue.
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About 2 year, still have some issues especially the zigbee PIR, tested about 5 different vendors finally latest one running @90+% accuracy with good battery life. Was hoping for 100%. Also Tuya's IP camera on Echo show has a latency of 12-15sec which is unaccepatble to me if you need this feature.
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post May 7 2021, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ May 7 2021, 11:21 AM)
Which Zigbee PIR working?
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This is not bad, can constantly trigger unlike the rest need wait few minutes.


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post May 7 2021, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ May 7 2021, 12:51 PM)
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Am also using this Tuya wifi, quite reliable, works most of the time to trigger the light. Thinking of switching to Tuya Zigbee switch so looking for the PIR
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Your wifi PIR can still trigger the Zigbee switch.
QUOTE(alucard89 @ May 7 2021, 01:01 PM)
Does it still detect properly if you’re in room when you’re not moving for quite a while. For example if you’re using automation to turn on/off lights when there’s no motion
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If no movement it cannot trigger. But Tuya have a new device but it's not cheap, it can detect human presence+ many other functions.

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post May 7 2021, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ May 7 2021, 02:12 PM)
So if i get this straight, if you’re not moving it could turn off the lights while you’re still in the room.
What’s the other sensor called? Got link
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This is reseller, price should be skyhigh brows.gif Human presence detector
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QUOTE(ssmart @ May 7 2021, 03:29 PM)
same with my Google Chromecast streaming, truly not recommended, just use the App in tablet, to view 4-channel ( 4 cameras) is more than enough.
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But if latency is 2-3sec it would be nice to have Echo show/Google hub to stream the video automatically when something is trigger. For awhile last 2 days my Tuya was streaming at almost same speed as my APP but that didn't last long. Next morning back to 12-15secs. doh.gif
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QUOTE(nezumi57 @ May 7 2021, 06:35 PM)
Thanks Adam, I am not planning to use the camera but I do plan to use the PIR, one question though, if I have an aqara zigbee hub, can I connect a tuya zigbee sensor? Or is it tie to each own brand even though they all using zigbee protocol?
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Tuya gateway cannot use Aqara sensors & vice versa.
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post May 8 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ May 8 2021, 01:01 PM)
Have you tried it bro? Works as advertised?
What’s it called in tuya app since the name seems generic
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Too expensive for me to test unless they offer discount or free samples. If you interested I can check for you. Currently testing the free Tuya smart kettle, not bad, they OEM to Pensonic. Base exactly same as my Pensonic.
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ May 8 2021, 03:33 PM)
Is it still under the sensor category?

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How expensive is it? Like 1k per unit?
I don’t see any mention of this yet in home assistant forum, mostly they focus on ble stuff for presence detection
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Below 1k rmb but currently no stock due to chip shortages.
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QUOTE(zsaberstar @ May 12 2021, 12:07 PM)
Hi guys, would like to seek your guidance on setting up some smart lights.

I just received the keys to my Condo and now I am planning to have some smart lights.

My requirements for the smart lights is Brightness and Temperature control, and able to control with Apple Homekit (Because I have an iPhone and iPad)

I am still unsure whether I need Smart Switches. My understanding is Smart Switches can allow us to switch on/off non smart lights via automation. In my case, I am only using the Smart Lights for Brightness and Temperature control, and I can do this with a "dumb" light switch, correct?

Next are the lights themselves.

I plan to have 2 ceiling lights in the master bedroom, like this model: (Have to use protruding ceiling light because the ceiling is concrete)

https://shopee.com.my/Xiaomi-Yeelight-Mi-Mi...95082.382433784

4 to 6 downlights in the living room and kitchen, like this model: (Living room and Kitchen has plaster ceiling so I want to install downlights as it is aesthetically pleasing)

https://shopee.com.my/WiZ-LED-4-inch-Smart-...6980.4058155271

2 to 3 LED strips:

https://shopee.com.my/Yeelight-LED-Lightstr...7580.5176266568

And maybe 2 to 3 E27 bulbs:

https://shopee.com.my/Xiaomi-Yeelight-Mi-Mi...5082.1256595637

Now this is a total of 10 to 14 Smart lights, and my understanding is that this will be a huge load on my router, so a hub is recommended.

Also, there are two different brands here, Yeelight and WiZ, because I couldn't find a Yeelight downlight that looks like the WiZ. Read the comments on WIZ app before you commit.

Which hub should I get that is compatible with these lights, and Apple HomeKit? Can you guys recommend? I am unfamiliar on hub selection, from what I see all these lights are WiFI compatible, so I should get a WiFi compatible hub? If you just need to use your Iphone to control this lightings it is not necessary for the lights to be homekit compatible.

I am also open to other light brands, this are just the first few that I found that I think is suitable to my needs.

Thanks in advance!
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Tuya is the largest smart home platform that have all the products that you will ever need & they are too big to fail(hopefully sweat.gif) so it's a good bet on using their ecosystem. Zigbee hub is the most stable with quick response if you have any worry about the devices slowing down your wifi router.
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QUOTE(XweienX @ May 13 2021, 09:53 PM)
Is Tuya HomeKit compatible?
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Tuya does not natively support Homekit because Apple requires a specific set of guidelines to be followed for a third-party manufacturer to get approved for the “Works with HomeKit” label.
Kicap here
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post May 15 2021, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(XweienX @ May 15 2021, 12:32 AM)
yup yup, that's what my research showed me too  laugh.gif

I was asking because zsaberstar mentioned his requirement to control with HomeKit, but you suggested Tuya, so I was wondering maybe there was an update I didn't know about.  nod.gif
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Actually, Tuya a bit confusing when Homekit is concern because under Tuya developer page you can see they already implemented Homekit support in 2020 & also this latest YT advert.
Tuya Homekit


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QUOTE(Slash21 @ May 16 2021, 01:54 PM)
Thanks for your feedback.

I tried but it didn't work, and says unable to find a suitable format for <the rstp link>...

Any other ideas?
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does your rtsp link work on vlc?
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Latest update, seems really have Homekit that is Tuya compatible or is it the other way around. wacko.gif Any volunteer to be white mice if can buy samples? I don't intend to used homekit personally.


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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ May 17 2021, 07:29 PM)
can share which smart switch good for use for air-cond ?
thanks ...
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Why not use a normal high amp switch and leave it on 7/24 & used IR blaster to do the controlling?
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post May 18 2021, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ May 18 2021, 10:08 AM)
ok ..ok ..google for ir blaster...compare smart switch ...ir blaster more better ?
both need wifi in order to work ?

thanks ...
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IR is wifi only but switches can be Wifi, RF, Zigbee etc. Switch can only on/off. IR will have more control since it duplicate the aircon remote (Not 100% though but most of the needed function is there)
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QUOTE(gvr @ May 19 2021, 11:56 PM)
hi all, does anyone using LED strip with RGB + W? Or do you guys normally just use RGB? Does the extra white LED really give a difference?
Thanks.
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If for effects RGB will do but if you want brightness used RGBW.
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QUOTE(gvr @ May 20 2021, 08:57 PM)
But are you able to get a RGBW led strip locally? I find that it is so hard to get one locally from lazada/shopee.
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I have no idea becaused I buy everything direct from China. #TaobaoGot brows.gif
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 21 2021, 12:35 AM)
all this xiaomi , sonoff , tuya , technically all the controller and automation is done on cloud, that's why it's so slow. 
Imagine you have a motion sensor, you send the data all the way to china or whatever server it is located, the server process the automation and then send the command all the way back to malaysia.
If you want lower latency, you have to do local like home assistant.


I would recommend brands that are supported by Home Assistant.
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HA is good but not for everyone, you should try Zigbee before simply saying about the latency. Do you know in 2020 already you can turn off your internet and as long as the Zigbee gateway is on local lan the sensors/switches etc all still can work? Automations too. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 21 2021, 12:05 PM)
You mean my 2 xiaomi zigbee hub, 1 Sonoff zigbee hub, 8 Non neutral xiaomi switch , 4 xiaomi zigbee motion sensor, 2 sonoff zigbee motion sensor,  4 xiaomi zigbee temperature sensor,  3 sonoff zigbee temperature sensor., 1 xiaomi zigbee door sensor?

In your scenario you are limited to zigbee devices and they cannot mix and match zigbee brands and wifi non zigbee stuff.
And when people talk about latency, they don't refer to local LAN latency which is insignificant, they refer to the whole automation engine that reside in the cloud server latency which includes ping time/packet loss/retry/internet congestion/server processing latency.
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You are complicating matters here for the layman. We are talking about Zigbee from a single brand. No need internet/cloud for automations once you have it up & running initially with internet/cloud. You still want to argue about cloud and latency for what?
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QUOTE(kenloh7 @ May 22 2021, 01:14 AM)
The xiaomi philips zhirui downlight is it suitable to be used in bathroom? Worry that its without IP rating so usages in a humid area may damage it.

And this downlight, can it be used just with a phone and without hub? I actually just need a light that can change the dimness and color temp by phone app, so no fancy automation is needed.
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Dimming & color temp for bathroom? brows.gif

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