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post Jan 24 2017, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 08:32 AM)
How many did you get and how long have they been working so far?
Also, how long is the command line?
Does it sound like 'Alexa, tell broadlink switch to turn/off lights' or is it shorter?
Btw, is it a 1 way/2 way communication for switch?
Last review I read mentioned that it's 1 way, like if you turn it off the app didn't update the last current on/off condition
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I bought 2 x two gang switch, each cost ~ RM40, just install recently so I can't confirm it is reliable or not
each button in the Broadlink e-control app has an entry in the RM tasker, you can create a macro to combine multiple button actions, then, you can create a Alexa device contain the macro, let say I create movie macro which to turn on TV and amplifier, and I create Alexa device name in RM tasker call Watch Movie, then, you can talk to Alexa like

"Alexa, turn on Watch Movie", Alexa will automatically execute the movie macro actions

Broadlink TC is 1 way communication, just like other IR devices. z-wave, zigbee, wifi are mostly 2 ways communication


QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 08:58 AM)
where are you guys buying Broadlink stuff from? cheapest source and preferably with no Custom tax and import duties
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world.taobao.com or www.aliexpress.com, aliexpress is more expensive but it is English interface and mostly free shipping

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post Jan 24 2017, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 05:43 PM)
Thanks for the feedback

I thought it was also wifi switch, that explains it
Your broadlink also in the same room like switch right?  How's the rf signal coverage?
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my switch is just 5 meters away from the broadlink hub, so signal is good.
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post Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 27 2017, 08:02 PM)
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Do you use alexa/broadlink to control your ceiling fan?
Mind sharing the best config to give proper command to adjust fan speed?
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I don't have ceiling fan, I plan to control the towel fan, it is not difficult to control fan speed by asking "Alexa, turn on fast fan" or "Alexa, turn on slow fan" where "fast fan" or "slow fan" refer to the IR macro name which consist of IR command "high speed, medium speed, low speed"
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post Feb 7 2017, 01:03 AM

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Aliexpress - privacy film

US$380 per square meter, not cheap...
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post Feb 7 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 7 2017, 09:24 AM)
Seems like is a glass, not those lamination film.
This 1 confirm can not be "add on" tint. Is a "glass" by itself if i interprate correctly.
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If you look at the spec in the link carefully, then you will not think it is a glass.
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post Feb 14 2017, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 14 2017, 11:23 AM)
mine is telling the correct time, just ask the time and it will tell me
alarm working fine, yesterday i just told alexa to set 7.30 for every weekday, alexa responded, is it 7.30 am or pm, i answer in the morning, then settled

app is limit to UK n USA store currently

dunno the get around ios, but for android u just need to dl the apk from website will do
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I can set the timezone to Asia/Kuala Lumpur in iOS Alexa App
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post Feb 18 2017, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 18 2017, 11:31 AM)
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I think i will receive my echo dot on monday. My first purchase item from US. Noob question. Can we use the power adaptor that comes with echo? Will our power supply fry the adaptor?

What i read b4 is US power supply 110volt & our power supply is 220volt
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No problem, Echo dot uses USB power adapter, 5V 2A, the power adapter is universal one which support 110-240V
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post Apr 23 2017, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(ubeyou @ Apr 23 2017, 05:20 AM)
Hi guys, anyone still using SmartThings?

I'm planning to order one from amazon. Seems like it has the highest ratings and many supports from open source community.

am using it for Schlage Connect alone.
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yes, smartthings is awesome, it can almost integrate all IoT devices, so far I have successfully integrated

1. z-wave devices (GoControl motion sesnors, contact sensors, dimmer, switches)
2. zigbee devices (xiaomi motion sensors, contact sensors)
3. IP camera (foscam C1 cameras)
4. Broadlink devices (RM2, blackbean, TC2) to control aircond, lights, TV, projectors, media player
5. sonoff wifi switches devices
6. Yamaha receivers
7. Amozon Echo Dot (using echosistant to voice control all smartthings devices)
8. VLC media player for voice notification


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post Apr 23 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Apr 23 2017, 05:12 PM)
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Do you have any compatible 1/2/3 gang wifi switch that's paired with smartthings?
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No, I don't have. anyway, you can use broadlink TC1/TC2 RF switch to control lights, it doesn't need neutral line, it is best for direct replacement of current switch
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QUOTE(ubeyou @ Apr 25 2017, 12:36 PM)
Thanks for the info. But I heard there is Z-wave frequency compatibility. How does that works?

If I buy Z-wave product (Schlage Connect) from US, my SmartThings has to be from US too?
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Yes, you need to get same frequency controller, which is smartthings from U.S. I'm currently using U.S frequency as it has more selection for z-wave devices


QUOTE(alucard89 @ Apr 25 2017, 01:40 PM)
Your TC2 switch still working so far?
I'm worried it might break down too soon, like my friend who bought one
Then I also read that the capacity is only 200W
Do you think using ceiling lights/fan utiize more than that?

Also, about using echo (alexa) with the following devices
For broadlink rm pro do you just set it up to connect directly to smartthings or need android device as hub?
Same question for the sonoff, do you install the skill on alexa app or connect directly to smartthings?
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I only use it to control lights which is less than 200W, it has been running for 4 months and so far so good.

For broadlink integration, you need RM bridge Android app to bridge broadlink to smartthings, I run the RM bridge app in the andorid VM in my ubuntu NAS server.
As for sonoff, there is a guy who write the smartthings device type handler so that smartthings can directly control sonoff, but the sonoff need to flash with customized firmware.
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post Apr 27 2017, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 27 2017, 09:44 AM)
I always have this kind of thinking that smart home thing or high tech thing have many thing to play around. Squeeze around.  biggrin.gif

Otherwise people put so much effort on it, not just for pasang and forget.

I have a more complicated thinking. rclxub.gif
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smart home is fun if you have controller and other sensors, for example,

1. Turn on car porch lights when some body in and only at night or sky is dark
2. Turn on lights/aircond when you come back home, and turn on amp to play classical music whistling.gif
3. Turn off all lights/appliances except fridge when nobody at home

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post Apr 27 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 27 2017, 10:17 AM)
but its called home automation - means everything automatic....no need to mess around.... biggrin.gif
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Home automation is smart home key features

QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 27 2017, 10:51 AM)
I think I mess around too much. sad.gif

Some how I expecting too much from a simple "smart thing".  biggrin.gif 

Messy wiring in my brain.  rclxub.gif
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If you want it to be simple, you need to pay a premium price, control4, apple homekit probably will make it simple
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post Apr 27 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Apr 27 2017, 02:40 PM)
The smart home is not about the control device over app, is the preset if .. then.. else condition that make your home smarter. Now we have 2 platforms amazon echo and apple home to mix use of varies smart devices. And the cost will be lower. Forget about control4 unless you staying in mansion.
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Amazon echo (alexa) is not really a smart home hub, it can't do IF-THEN-ELSE, you needs IFTTT to integrate with Alexa. Amazon is a voice assistant, it simplify the trigger of series actions.

on the other hand, Smartthings has smart app that can do any logical operations that enable any kind of home automation.

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post Apr 29 2017, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Apr 29 2017, 04:55 PM)
So still need android for bridge? I thought it can be skipped when using with smartthings

For your TC2 switch, it does have 2 differrent commands right?
If the lights are already turned off & if you were to send off  command again on the broadlink app/alexa.
Would it simply turn on the lights or it still remains off?
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1. It is possible to use broadlink without Android RM bridge, but, it needs to run python to send commands, and python integration with smartthings is not straight forward, so I don't use it.

2. It will remain off, for broadlink TC2, each on/off commands has different RF code, so when it is off, sending off command won't trigger it on, likewise, if it is on, sending on command won't trigger it off.

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post Apr 30 2017, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Apr 29 2017, 09:27 PM)
Broadlink TC2 is using RF433Mhz one way signal transmit. If the software status is on, then someone physically switched off the light, the status in the software still remain as ON. There are no such as different RF code, broadlink RM pro can support RF433MHz, IR and RF315mhz
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What you said is partially correct, it is one way signal transmit, so the hub doesn't know the status, and if someone physically switched it off, the smarthome software still detect as on, but we were talking sending the command using software, not physically switched it off. actually I don't care what status the software report, if i wanna switch it off, I just send the off command to turn off the light, even the light is already turn off, it won't turn on.

the TC2 on/off command use different RF codes, I can confirm that because I hacked into the broadlink e-control app, and find out the RF code hex keys use by each RF commands.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 30 2017, 01:13 AM)
You guys create the problem out or what?

I watched many smart home YouTube and mostly are pretty simple to do and operate.

Watch a lot this guy in YouTube --> DIY smart home guy.  He review, teach to install a lot of smart home device. Doesn't look complicated.

Another is superhouseTV by Jonathan oxer. He is more hardcore.
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You can use a single protocol (z-wave) to control supported z-wave devices, and everything will be very simple and easy just like what you see in the youtube, however. z-wave devices are DAMN expensive, a switch, motion sensor easily cost US$25-US$40, while xiaomi zigbee contact, switch, motion sensors just cost < US$10, also many z-wave light switch requires neutral line to work, while broadlink TC2 doesn't require. Logitech harmony hub is US$99 while broadlink RM2 Pro just cost US$20.

simply put, if poor man like me, then it needs to do more work to integrate all different devices from different vendors using different protocols. rich man can simply buy all devices from single vendor and have simple setup.

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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Apr 30 2017, 07:15 PM)
Sometimes when come to smarthome we have to be realistic, do you switch on your lights using your Handphone when you are at home? Or all your family members will do the same? Then you have to carry your Hp 7/24. smile.gif

Please physically open the RM pro2, there are only 2 RF chips and iR chip, there are no such different RF code.

Because all these TC2, etouch switches using normal RF433MHZ, any main console with RF chip can pair with them and less security. Even you can use xiaomi device to control them.
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I think you misunderstand the RF code, it is not two different frequencies, it is code, not frequency, when you send RF signal to TC2 to turn it on, broadlink RM2 needs to send a specific frequency coding (433Mhz but in different coding like 0xe90a4200df0909160916091609160916091609160916160909160916091609160916091616091609160916091609091616090916091609160916091609161609160909161609), when TC2 receives this code, it turn on the switch, likewise, there is an off code to turn the switch off.

Even IR also has different coding for each device, Logitech harmony has ten of thousands IR codes in their database, so that harmony can control almost all vendor's devices

If the TC2 is turn on physically, the smart home controller doesn't know it is turned on, but it doesn't matter, I can build a logic so that if there is no motion in that area, turn off the TC2, or if no one at home, turn off all lights, RM2 controller will send "off" command to the TC2 and regardless what status it is, just turn off the switch.

The real problem is some IR device such as Samsung TV, it uses toggle to turn TV on/off, the IR code for turning on and off is the same, then this is difficult to handle.
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post May 13 2017, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(ianlti @ May 13 2017, 12:14 PM)
too expensive, Taobao selling 5pc cost only RM80
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QUOTE(vaio_me @ May 16 2017, 01:14 PM)
The only drawback Xiaomi Smart Home is it can't work with ifft. The gateway can only work with Xiaomi product. The best part is the price, before I bought Xiaomi I have compared with Samsung smartthings, smartthings is too expensive and sensor that works with smartthings are too pricey. A smartthings gateway can buy 4 to 5 Xiaomi gateway.
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smartthings is expensive if you use their sensors, but smartthing can work with most devices, including xiaomi zigbee devices, I have few xiaomi temp, contact and motion sensors working with smartthings, smartthings also work with Alexa, gogole home, IFTTT.
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ May 24 2017, 01:37 PM)
Ok, then I should go with the first 4 design
What do you mean needs controller for the 3 single life line?
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you better open and check your existing wall switch, does it come with neutral line or not ? if not, you need to get the last 3 in the picture.

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