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post Mar 2 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Mar 2 2018, 09:32 AM)
If TNB domestic meter measure only real power, then the TNB meter should included PF into calculation right?

Apparent power = P * I
Real power = P * I * PF
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No need. The meter only "rotate" on true power. The reactive power does not contribute to supply any energy to operate appliances. Appliances work only on real power.

So, basically the meter only measures the true power portion. If the PF drops, the power usage also drops. Meaning the appliances is not running at maximum efficiency, thus more waste power. However, since the meter does not capture the reactive portion, the waste power is not captured also. On the negative side, your appliances is running hot but not performing laugh.gif

Basically, domestic appliances are designed to work very efficient already. That is why now they have Star Ratings. So, for me, the so called device to save electricity is just a waste of money.


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post Mar 2 2018, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2018, 09:37 AM)
3 yrs old fridge.

Capacitor is for the motor start up.

Most of the house hold electrical don't have the capacitor to correct the phase.
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This is consider new modern appliances already. Are you sure the PF is just 0.6. It must be mistake somewhere. The 0.6 is very low hmm.gif

As you've probably known, appliances with motor such as compressor only need to be corrected. Now light are LED, so no need phase correction. Same as majority of appliances.
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post Mar 2 2018, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2018, 09:57 AM)
I m still using the old dial meter. I m sure no PF factor in.

I think the new meter do factor in the PF. No wonder many people complain after change to new meter, their bill's up.  dry.gif
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It is because of the meter reads more accurately perhaps. The meter is now transparent. Nothing hanky panky can be done too obvious laugh.gif
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post Mar 2 2018, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2018, 09:57 AM)
I m still using the old dial meter. I m sure no PF factor in.

I think the new meter do factor in the PF. No wonder many people complain after change to new meter, their bill's up.  dry.gif
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What is power factor?
The index is used to measure (from 0 to 1) the level of electricity consumption efficiently. A low index would mean that there is an inefficient use of electricity and it represents a waste of electricity, and vice versa.

Why penalise users with low power factor?
It is said that utility companies all around the world charge customers an additional surcharge when their power factor is low. TNB imposes a penalty because low power factor shortens the lifespan of electrical appliances and causes power system losses to TNB.

Who will be affected?
Customers from the commercial, industrial, mining and agriculture category that use three (3) phase low-voltage system should take note of this surcharge. TNB said that this surcharge does not involve customers in the domestic category.

How can one avoid from getting this surcharge?
TNB states that a Power factor surcharge is imposed when your power factor is less than 0.90 (electricity supply 132kV and above) or less than 0.85 (electricity supply below 132 kV).

How much is this surcharge?
Power factor surcharge for customers with electricity supply below 132 kV is calculated as follows:
1.5% surcharge of the current bill – for every 0.01 less than 0.85 power factor.
3% surcharge of the current bill – for every 0.01 less than 0.75 power factor.

http://<referral link removed>/my/lifestyle/save-your-mon...actor-surcharge
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post Mar 2 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2018, 11:16 AM)
This is mainly for commercial.

I believe the new meter do include the PF. TNB won't tell you more technical but just said " More accurate meter"
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I think the PF is in the meter because the LCD is common for both. If the PF plays the factor in domestic customers' charge, it will show on the bill just like the commercial customers' bill.
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post Mar 5 2018, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Mar 5 2018, 03:24 PM)
i bought the gas detector but wanted to clarify about the smoke detector first. Perhaps i could buy one and try out 1st if no one has. i already have a few basic stand alone fire alarms (those under 10 bucks ones), but wanted to have a smart / connected one for a peace of mind. just worried ended up with a "dumb" fire alam that cost almost 10 times the normal stand alone fire alarm.

Also, does anyone know if the xiaomi smoke detector uses photoelectric sensor or ionizer sensor or both, been reading up and many advices against the usage of ionizer sensor.
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Both type, ionizing and photoelectric sensors, have pro and con

This link is good brief explanation of both:

https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-to...s-photoelectric

The Xiaomi use photoelectric (read it somewhere). So, it is good for smoky type of fire. If fire produces more on toxic invisible gas like carbon monoxide, then it will not trigger. So, the best is to have both types. There are detector that detects invisible gas produced by fire if not mistaken but not vastly common.


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post Mar 6 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 6 2018, 10:33 AM)
I think because of the position of my switch - I dunno. It is actually very near the gateway - only about 10 feet away but it is separated by two doors. Once I open my fire door, the connection is okay, once I closed the door, it goes offline.

As for the sensors, once it goes offline, it can search around and goes back online once it found the signal.....Sometimes cannot.

The Zigbee Smart Socket cost RM59. Cheap solution to solve my offline problem
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Well, zigbee is low power device. It is like low power WiFi. Maybe your door is less penetrable biggrin.gif
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post Mar 6 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Mar 6 2018, 02:20 PM)
yes sir, but my light switch has the earth connection which is the issue, im not very well versed in e&e so wouldn't want to go try anything that im unsure, thats why i'd rather wait for someone with expertise come and help me take a look at it
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Your light switch has earth wire? Where that wire connected to? The screw?

What type of light is this? On ceiling? On wall?
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post Mar 6 2018, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Mar 6 2018, 02:31 PM)
nop its wired to the switch, these are ceiling lights, t5 / downlights.

her's some pics . https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87988465
you could be right, take a look above link
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You must be confused with yellow for earth. It is the color used for different phase in 3-phase house wiring system.

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post Mar 9 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 9 2018, 08:50 AM)
I want something that can control both ir and rf. Want it to control my autogate.
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Your autogate has IR receiver?

opps I think I misunderstood the whole idea biggrin.gif

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post Mar 9 2018, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 9 2018, 11:56 AM)
aw.. this is hard.. all chinese.
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 9 2018, 12:43 PM)
Need to verify the RF signal for autogate
Another way is just connect sonoff to your autogate system so you can just control with ewelink.
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I think the thinkings are going to complicated direction laugh.gif

I believe that any auto-gate for house has momentary switch on the wall to open and close the gate. Why can't just replace that switch with whichever remote switch?
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post Mar 9 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 9 2018, 03:08 PM)
Well, there's that but i think someone mentioned before that it's just a normal switch. No live wires connected to it or something
Don't have autogate yet so not really sure for the installation
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The switch is just like grounding a button on the control board placed outside the house, I believe. It is more like signal level power, probably 6V. I never check biggrin.gif

So, you will need something to power the remote switch
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post Mar 11 2018, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Tiggymaru @ Mar 11 2018, 03:22 AM)
The smartest home will always have a cat living in it smile.gif gnek gnek gnek
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Then you know who is smarter than house owner laugh.gif

Just installed a remote light controller today. Damn hot on the ceiling, basically my sweat dripping. It is just using remote control and can control 3 power sources. Not sure how long the receiver unit on top of the ceiling.

Anyway, it is not consider smart home but just convenience home. So, no cat laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2018, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 11 2018, 08:14 PM)
what remote light controller?
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Just normal traditional remote controller to switch light. Now instead of 1 light point, I now have 3 points. No need new wiring or wall switched. Just cheap old China made about RM36. Normal 433MHz frequency laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2018, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 8 2018, 05:51 PM)
guys. any alternatives to RM Broadlink that can be controlled by Alexa? ive search so far, none.
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http://smarthome.reviewed.com/features/eve...azon-echo-alexa
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post Mar 13 2018, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 13 2018, 12:05 PM)
I read somewhere that each gateway can connect up to 32 zigbee devices. Connection wise, maybe upstairs needs another unit to repeat the signals. I think wall switches also act as repeaters. Smart sockets are repeaters. Try and see. Blind spots in each house is different

My single level apartment also got blind spots even when it’s only 10ft away from the gateway.
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That is because xiaomi gateway limitation. Some people say 30 max but some people can connect up to 32. However, for zigbee mesh network, you can connect many more but the network will get sluggish. Some say 100 is about right for limit.
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post Mar 14 2018, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 14 2018, 08:38 AM)
problem with broadlink, only the old one can be controlled by alexa through RM plugin. the latest one u cant even detect the plugin and thus u are stuck with alexa broadlink skill which can only control IR to control your TV. to know what version u used is difficult.
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Any reason Broadlink do that?

Have you read this?
http://www.paulhibbert.co.uk/2017/11/24/a-...kbean-to-alexa/

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post Mar 14 2018, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 14 2018, 08:52 AM)
sorry. didnt get the question. can u rephrase it?
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I edit my previous post smile.gif I dunno what's going on in Broadlink. Have not use any smile.gif
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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Mar 14 2018, 06:37 PM)
I still wonder how effective the wifi smart plug for daily use? On/off stand lamp?
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Effective? What you meant by that?
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post Mar 15 2018, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Mar 15 2018, 01:29 AM)
sorry. i should rephrase to what device to be controlled by wifi smart plug  tongue.gif
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Yes. 3-pin plug has nothing much for most Malaysians. You just use it to charge phone or temporary connection. For permanent one like hot water pot, fridge, microwave, washing machine, rice cooker; these are all left plugged and on. laugh.gif

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