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post Oct 18 2006, 10:08 AM, updated 10y ago

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post Oct 18 2006, 10:18 AM

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how's ur currently working environment? if it's ok to work there and ur salary has been revised.. y not stay.. cos if u go to new company u have to adapt urself to new environment, new boss and new colleague which can be good or otherwise wink.gif
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:26 AM

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u'll need to start anew if go new place, and most probably be small-potato in MNC, and remain in that role for some years before u can get promoted.

i still think that it's better to be big-shot in small company than small-fish in MNC. once u r a big shot, the option is always open for u to make ur jump, and the offering will be much different from what u'll be getting now.
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:28 AM

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The working environment is great, i got the full freedom in work, however the only issue is the management.
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Kelvinwkw @ Oct 18 2006, 10:28 AM)
The working environment is great, i got the full freedom in work, however the only issue is the management.
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well... i can say whereever u go there will be a issue in the management... just it is bad or worst only.. smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:34 AM

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you after money or working experiences? if money, better to stay. but if otherwise, its good to know new stuff. but since you mentioned management can be an issue in new company, then its best stay out of it coz thats where ur salary is paid on time.
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:37 AM

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Well, I would advice you to look at the potential extra 30% of whatever you need to be doing to get that 30% raise.

But still, I agree with weeluvmal. It's better to be a big shot in a small company then small potato in a MNC company...

However, a small potato in a MNC company sometimes can give you better oppertunity as well. For example, have you taken into account the benefits you can get via the MNC company compared to the benefits given out by your current company? Travel oppertunity, allowence, profit sharing, employee stock option, etc?

Futhuermore, usually if you got a professional degree and working in a MNC company, they'll be able to help you register as a qualified professional for free and increase your value by a hack of alot after you go through various projects...

It's up to you. Take the risk, or take the safe path. smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:41 AM

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there's the light side and there's the dark side... but now got the corrupt side... hahah... jk. too much watching game trailers.
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:47 AM

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But if the reason of revision is due to lots of staff leaving the company? And they try to not letting you go. Whats you all's opinion?
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:52 AM

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you're an asset they cant afford to loose, this is the opportunity to demand before they give you more responsibility.

staff leaving can be their own attitude issues or just couldnt bounce back from company scrutiny. you dont have to fall under peer's pressure/influences.
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QUOTE(Kelvinwkw @ Oct 18 2006, 10:08 AM)
Im in situation where i been offer a job in one of the MNC company in Malaysia, however my current salary been revised, and its about 30% more compare to the MNC one.

If you are me, which you would like to choose, go with the MNC ot stay?  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

sorry... mind if I ask... what is this MNC company all about? unsure.gif
I did googled... but still no idea what is it?! sweat.gif

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post Oct 18 2006, 11:05 AM

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MNC = Multi National Company.

This thread will be moved to Jobs & Careers.
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QUOTE(Kelvinwkw @ Oct 18 2006, 10:08 AM)
Im in situation where i been offer a job in one of the MNC company in Malaysia, however my current salary been revised, and its about 30% more compare to the MNC one.

If you are me, which you would like to choose, go with the MNC ot stay?  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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It depend on what kind of MNC you choose... Think for long term plan rather the short term salary I mean. Compare every aspect of the working and make a rational decision.

Just my 2 cents
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QUOTE(se7en @ Oct 18 2006, 11:05 AM)
MNC = Multi National Company.

This thread will be moved to Jobs & Careers.

Thank you. smile.gif
Oh... Multi National Company... laugh.gif

Threadstarter, stay in your own company is better. It depends on what MNC that actually... it's too general for us to give you accurate advice. As to... what if the MNC is Microsoft? What if the MNC is Google or Yahoo?! Then, the answer is obvious right? wink.gif

However, if not those big fish. It's better to stay...
As just 30% increased salary is really not a bad deal.

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post Oct 18 2006, 11:14 AM

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Its one of a hardware distributor in Malaysia. It would be inconvenient for me to listing the company name here.


Definitely not Microsoft or Google, however im a IT personnel.

This post has been edited by Kelvinwkw: Oct 18 2006, 11:16 AM
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post Oct 18 2006, 11:54 AM

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Just my 2 cents. If you're hired by the MNC under an agent (Manpower/EPS/Xcellink/Kelly etc etc), STAY with your current company. Cause you may get to work under the MNC but may not be able to enjoy the perks.

Can name drop lah but they dont treat you the same sweat.gif
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post Oct 18 2006, 12:05 PM

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Dont only look at salary. Look at the total remuneration package. MNC's usually offer employees very good benefits/perks on top of the basic salary. Take that into consideration as well.
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belum cuba belum tau, you've got secondary experiences from this thread. all up to you to experience first hand. all da best! but be sure to update this thread once you achieve it or not.. hehhe
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post Oct 18 2006, 12:12 PM

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Take the 30%, then reapply back to MNC.

if u r good, they will re-consider...
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post Oct 18 2006, 12:17 PM

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Im in the condition of getting salary increment after i went for interview.

They(MNC)'ve confirm they will hire me.
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post Oct 18 2006, 01:32 PM

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another thing to take note of, if you accept the MNC job, it could do you good in the future when you're applying for another job. experience in an MNC will look good in your resume.
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post Oct 18 2006, 03:31 PM

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Its a long term versus short term. For long term i should go for MNC am i right?
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post Oct 18 2006, 03:38 PM

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I think what matters most is the working enviorment, salary will be placed second.
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post Oct 18 2006, 04:03 PM

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Thats the reason im getting confuse whether to go or not.

Current Co
- freedom
- can play game some more
- better paid
- working time 10 - 7
- no much tension

Coming's Co
- freedom ( dunno)
- definitely cant play game
- good pay
- working time 9 - 6
- tension, dunno

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post Oct 18 2006, 05:07 PM

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I think in the long run, working at the MNC would provide you with the valuable experience you would need for the future. You definitely can't buy experience.
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post Oct 18 2006, 05:12 PM

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^- but that doesnt mean that small companies dun have such experience, sometimes its the other way round, being in MNC, such big company with so many employees, when is ur time to climb up? or how many percentage u are able to go up? and dun forget ... the greater the company, the more complex office politics will have ...

they are also very focus on job scope, u do this mean u do this, u cannot step over ur line, thus limit ur learning scope... being in small companies sometimes u need to do virtually-everything but from another point of view, u learn more and get more exposure...

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post Oct 18 2006, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvinwkw @ Oct 18 2006, 04:03 PM)
Thats the reason im getting confuse whether to go or not.

Current Co
- freedom
- can play game some more
- better paid
- working time 10 - 7
- no much tension

Coming's Co
- freedom ( dunno)
- definitely cant play game
- good pay
- working time 9 - 6
- tension, dunno

sorry, I also want to keppo(busybody) a bit. tongue.gif See if contructive not? sweat.gif
The comming's Co would be opposite of what mentioned.

Current Co
cons:
-limited resources, not much good/awesome experiences to be gained?
-Pay is limited. Won't get paid like S$20k per month. (If and only if you are director of something and something in MNC in the future)
-Not higher class? perhads??? As those people in MNC that you gonna meet, could be president this and that. You got all the chance to know them if lucky.
-Not as professional as what public thought you are? Normally people seeing staffs in big company really differently.
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pros:
-Not much office politic. I hate this the most!!!
-won't lost job. More stable.
-What if you can be a boss for your own in the future? Then, you might be earning RM 50k per month or more.
-Lesser competitiveness. MNC really really something wrong one. Everyone is like trying to protect him/herself first. So, the best friend with you in MNC. Could be anytime the one who pulling your legs that causing you lost your job. sweat.gif
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post Oct 18 2006, 06:23 PM

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Everyone have its points on PROs and CONs over New Co. and Current Co.

However, i have my own decision in my mind. Thanks a lot guys for your's opinions, i appreciate them a lot =)
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post Oct 18 2006, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Conquest @ Oct 18 2006, 10:52 AM)
you're an asset they cant afford to loose, this is the opportunity to demand before they give you more responsibility.

staff leaving can be their own attitude issues or just couldnt bounce back from company scrutiny. you dont have to fall under peer's pressure/influences.
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Yea its always about other people faults and never the company faults when people resign. And its never about people getting a better opportunity elsewhere. rclxub.gif Agree? Everbody?

IMHO people resign because maybe they strike lottery and time to retire early. thumbup.gif
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Yesi know thanks =)
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post Oct 20 2006, 12:10 AM

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LOOK at the BENEFIT like house loan, car loan, investment the company offer.
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QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Oct 18 2006, 05:12 PM)
^- but that doesnt mean that small companies dun have such experience, sometimes its the other way round, being in MNC, such big company with so many employees, when is ur time to climb up? or how many percentage u are able to go up? and dun forget ... the greater the company, the more complex office politics will have ...

they are also very focus on job scope, u do this mean u do this, u cannot step over ur line, thus limit ur learning scope... being in small companies sometimes u need to do virtually-everything but from another point of view, u learn more and get more exposure...

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totally agree.
Thread starter, Chris has very good point here. This is exactly wat happens in MNC.
My opinion is u can learn bigger job scope and gain more exposure in small or medium company. BTW, u got 30% extra.
Unless ur job scope is very small in current company.
Specific job scope = limit ur competency when apply jobs in the future.



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