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Investment NIDOZ RESIDENCES | RESIDENSI D'NURI [OT], The Colours of Freedom is Nestled Here

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post Jun 14 2021, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 14 2021, 06:17 PM)
Haha. People talking on sg Condo. Not hdb flats lar. Boss
Not related to public transport also. Just simply people won't use those facilities most of times.  Human DNA. You can try ask around those stay in condo, how many times they use their facilities,  how long can those facilities last without corrosion.

People willing to walk down their condo to amenities nearby rather than spend time on those facilities.  Don't ask me why, human DNA. Haha

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Each entitled their own preference, I prefer mine with more facilities to be used. If you say Condos in SG, same, each inch of space is money. We have abundant of space here.

Propcafe still alive? I bet they dont gym, me on the other hand prefer lesser people in gym and less disturbance so i can focus, finish my workout and go home. Try going to gym before work and after work, how much hassle carrying everything, change cloths, shower, cool down and get to work
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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Jun 14 2021, 08:57 PM)
What the ratio of maintenance fee defaulters….30%?
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no idea , there's no data of this over all highrise building in klang valley .


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post Jun 14 2021, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Jun 13 2021, 08:46 PM)
i cannot agree more. All the fancy fancy stuffs are unnecessary and its a maintenance nightmare after DLP has ended. Its one of the reasons many of the developed countries have kept their apartments built in a modest state because eventually all will comes back to the basic, the basic dollar and cents

malaysian civic consciousness is still very very far behind. Majority of the purchaser or owner wants all the facilities in the world but when it comes to revision of maintenance fee those people will fight as if someone is force taking their children away.
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Depends how you see. If you don't like facilities, can always opt for landed or apartment with less facilities.

People buy condo for their own reason. I've always like because I enjoy going gym, swimming and bringing kids to play while can host guests if they come over for birthday party or something.

It's choice. If you don't like, don't buy. End of story.
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post Jun 15 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jun 14 2021, 07:22 PM)
vp-ed almost a year
is way enough to cover the maintenance cost .
maybe coz of high dens . 1.3k units .
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D'Nuri only 557 units right?

557X850X0.28 = RM56,644 , enough meh to maintain such a beautiful condo ?

This post has been edited by superinvestor: Jun 15 2021, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(superinvestor @ Jun 15 2021, 11:18 AM)
Nidoz only 557 units right?

557X850X0.28 = RM56,644 ,  enough meh to maintain such a beautiful condo ?
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1300 units.
all above 1000 sqft in size.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 15 2021, 11:22 AM)
1300 units.
all above 1000 sqft in size.
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sorry , i editted. i meant D'nuri
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post Jun 15 2021, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(superinvestor @ Jun 15 2021, 11:18 AM)
D'Nuri only 557 units right?

557X850X0.28 = RM56,644 ,  enough meh to maintain such a beautiful condo ?
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The bulk of the monthly expenses for strata building goes to the utilities bill , security guard and cleaner and management office. At 7.50/hr, one security guard will cost 3k. Electricity is expensive because the common area is charged at commercial rate even though there is no commercial element in the whole building. Don't ask me why but that is how it works when the electricity account is registered . Utilities for 500+ units I estimate roughly 20-20k a month . Then you will need to hire management company which can easily cost about 15-20 k a month , fees and staff cost included. Back to your question is 56,644 enough, I would say no. I don't know if the above 28sen is the actual but i think for rumah WIP, it is usually 15-20 sen.

P/s. How did you workout the 56,644.
557x850x.28 is 132,566

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jun 15 2021, 11:42 AM)
The bulk of the monthly expenses for strata building goes to the utilities  bill , security guard and cleaner and management office. At 7.50/hr, one security guard will cost 3k. Electricity is expensive because the common area is charged at commercial rate even though there is no commercial element in the whole building. Don't ask me why but that is how it works when the electricity account is registered . Utilities for 500+ units I estimate roughly 20-20k a month . Then you will need to hire management company which can easily cost about 15-20 k a month , fees and staff cost included. Back to your question is 56,644 enough, I would say no. I don't know if the  above 28sen is the actual but i think for rumah WIP, it is usually 15-20 sen.

P/s. How did you workout the 56,644.
557x850x.28 is 132,566
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Opps...correct it is 132,566 , this sound enough then.
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post Jun 15 2021, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jun 15 2021, 12:42 PM)
The bulk of the monthly expenses for strata building goes to the utilities  bill , security guard and cleaner and management office. At 7.50/hr, one security guard will cost 3k. Electricity is expensive because the common area is charged at commercial rate even though there is no commercial element in the whole building. Don't ask me why but that is how it works when the electricity account is registered . Utilities for 500+ units I estimate roughly 20-20k a month . Then you will need to hire management company which can easily cost about 15-20 k a month , fees and staff cost included. Back to your question is 56,644 enough, I would say no. I don't know if the  above 28sen is the actual but i think for rumah WIP, it is usually 15-20 sen.

P/s. How did you workout the 56,644.
557x850x.28 is 132,566
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Those facilities contractors suppliers always given discounts or priced in their maintenance fees in initial cost for developer favour. After expiry of maintenance contract, then residents will see high surge in maintainance costs of abundance facilities.
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post Jun 15 2021, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 15 2021, 12:37 PM)
Those facilities contractors suppliers always given discounts or priced in their maintenance fees in initial cost for developer favour. After expiry of maintenance contract, then residents will see high surge in maintainance costs of abundance facilities.
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During developer maintenance period i.e. before JMB, developer cannot commit for service contract beyond their maintenance period. After forming JMB, the service provider can be changed if the charges is high. It is up to the JMB to choose the service provider they want so the high surge you have mentioned doesn't hold water. Nobody force you to continue using the service provider if is not good or charge exorbitantly.
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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jun 15 2021, 03:11 PM)
During developer maintenance period i.e. before JMB, developer cannot commit for service contract beyond their maintenance period. After forming JMB, the service provider can be changed if the charges is high. It is up to the JMB to choose the service provider they want so the high surge you have mentioned doesn't hold water. Nobody force you to continue using the service provider if is not good or charge exorbitantly.
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Talk is easy. But when all the facilities equipment already installed there, higher cost may required to replace the equipment, ask for other vendors they will also mark up their services fees since they missed to earn your money in initial cost. Usually those facilities vendors/suppliers also know on this, they will take opportunity to jack up their maintenance fees and accessories fees to jmb. End up jmb no choice has to continue their services. They will tell you take it or leave it . Many facilities items also has to look back for same brand supplier/vendor to do servicing if you know well such as Lift, pool tank, pumps, etc

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 15 2021, 02:38 PM)
Talk is easy. But when all the facilities equipment already installed there, higher cost may required to replace the equipment, ask for other vendors they will also mark up their services fees since they missed to earn your money in initial cost.  Usually those facilities vendors/suppliers also know on this, they will take opportunity to jack up their maintenance fees and accessories fees to jmb. End up jmb no choice has to continue their services. They will tell you take it or leave it . Haha.
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JMB needs to have balance of people will knowledge on different trades and not just those who only know to complaint this thing no good that things need improvement in order to maintain the building for the long term. On top of that , it is important to have responsible MO to assist JMB in meeting it's objective. Of course if nobody know nuts what is deemed reasonable cost and what is exorbitant cost and not getting a few quotes to compare the price , they deserved to be conned.
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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jun 15 2021, 04:04 PM)
JMB needs to have balance of people will knowledge on different trades and not just those who only know to complaint this thing no good that things need improvement in order to maintain the building for the long term. On top of that , it is important to have responsible MO to assist JMB in meeting it's objective. Of course if nobody  know nuts what is deemed reasonable cost and what is exorbitant cost and not getting a few quotes to compare the price , they deserved to be conned.
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Well said. They deserve it smile.gif
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 15 2021, 02:38 PM)
Talk is easy. But when all the facilities equipment already installed there, higher cost may required to replace the equipment, ask for other vendors they will also mark up their services fees since they missed to earn your money in initial cost.  Usually those facilities vendors/suppliers also know on this, they will take opportunity to jack up their maintenance fees and accessories fees to jmb. End up jmb no choice has to continue their services. They will tell you take it or leave it . Many facilities items also has to look back for same brand supplier/vendor to do servicing if you know well such as Lift, pool tank, pumps, etc
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how about Uno Promenade @ Sungai Besi, 137 units 1 tower biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
at RM0.44 psf maintenance fees
average 1000 sqft

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jun 15 2021, 05:06 PM)
how about Uno Promenade @ Sungai Besi, 137 units 1 tower  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
at RM0.44 psf maintenance fees
average 1000 sqft
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Now you know why some jmb committees can drive ferrari. LOL
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post Jun 16 2021, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jun 14 2021, 06:56 PM)
still ok , nidoz doesnt come with too fancy fancy facilities
while most of facilities fully booked like 2 x badminton court and 2 x basketballcourt .

other than that especially current MCO period , residence still utilize the urban farm alot (jogging , walk their dogs , play with their kids)
*because couldn't go out .

other than that , skylounge x 4 closed , big gym and yoga room closed , which is rm0 cost of maintenance
2 sky swimming pool is comes with heavy cost to maintenance only .

quite a family element condo compared to others as almost > 70% units here for own stay .
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u have correctly highlighted those major and more apparent common facilities. However, common facilities also include common areas & properties. Your tower lobby, aircond in common areas, fan, lights and etc. Those jacuzzi, sauna, water features, landscaping etc are all money. Nidoz is fairly new and it is still covered under DLP hence owners aint feeling the real maintenance costs yet. That being said, Nidoz is relatively high in density so i think the maintenance should be fairly affordable as it is being shared among 1000+ units. However, i referring to all condos in general. Those condo with 500-600 units will be a different story in term of maintenance as each unit need to shoulder alot more maintenance costs.

More and more facilties are being built by developer because it looks good on their marketing material, whether resident will actually need it or not they dont care. Developer only sell then build purchasers the facilities without giving a damn of post completion maintenance (not all, but most developers). Some condo have a so called built in cinema or movie theatre but the room has never ever been rented out or used since VP many years ago, yet it still requires cleaner for routine cleaning. Mind you this is only one of the examples.
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jun 15 2021, 04:28 PM)
Now you know why some jmb committees can drive ferrari.  LOL
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QUOTE(xlss @ Jun 16 2021, 02:25 AM)
u have correctly highlighted those major and more apparent common facilities. However, common facilities also include common areas & properties. Your tower lobby, aircond in common areas, fan, lights and etc. Those jacuzzi, sauna, water features, landscaping etc are all money. Nidoz is fairly new and it is still covered under DLP hence owners aint feeling the real maintenance costs yet. That being said, Nidoz is relatively high in density so i think the maintenance should be fairly affordable as it is being shared among 1000+ units. However, i referring to all condos in general. Those condo with 500-600 units will be a different story in term of maintenance as each unit need to shoulder alot more maintenance costs.

More and more facilties are being built by developer because it looks good on their marketing material, whether resident will actually need it or not they dont care. Developer only sell then build purchasers the facilities without giving a damn of post completion maintenance (not all, but most developers). Some condo have a so called built in cinema or movie theatre but the room has never ever been rented out or used since VP many years ago, yet it still requires cleaner for routine cleaning. Mind you this is only one of the examples.
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That’s why don’t buy condo
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all those backlit, fountain, water features and many of which require to be operated by pump is electricity sucker. Owners might never feel all these are unnecessary and it might not even cross their mind that many of these are costly to maintain and run. Those grand lobby especially those double volume 20+ feet ceiling high is extremely expensive to maintain because aircond will blow 99 but does the developer gives a fuck? NO! Because they are not the one paying the bills ma
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Lets buy rumawip or mampu beli unit only guys, close file.
Lets drive normal car only, why buy high cc fancy design function car or logo car? still a car anyway, close file.

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