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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk v96, Happy 123rd Birthday, Liverpool!

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post Apr 21 2015, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 06:00 PM)
Alamak, every player also kena justify now. Totally forgot bout this dude.

Whatever happened to Coates, it is a mystery, could not even get into Sunderland's first team. Probably back to Uruguay after this.
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When the club cannot afford to buy top player and pay top wages, then those 70K, 60K expensive bench warmer recruit surely will be scrutinised.

A club that earns near to 300 mil per annum cannot afford to pay 150k wages for top player but can afford to pay 3 to 4 per 70K wages for bench warmer, or players who can't even can make it into the bench.

You forgot Ilori as well. whistling.gif
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post Apr 21 2015, 09:26 PM

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Juv interested in Sterling and willing to pay £50 mil?

Sure or not?
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post Apr 22 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 22 2015, 05:32 PM)
not if we snatch him back first.

Rafa spends a lot of money, but at least he won cups.

Heck, put a CL into that.
this stupid Brendan, used up so much, and we got what? NOTHING.
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Rafa spent a lot of money, but he delivered one CL trophy, FA cup, and another CL final, and become a force in Europe stage, instead of more like minnow under BR.

Rafa, at least there were good players signed, Alonso, Garcia, Torres, Mascherano, Skrtel.

BR signed player only have Coutinho who look promising (still blow hot and cold), the rest mostly loan out or squad player that some can't even make into the bench or average midtable type of players.
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post Apr 22 2015, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 08:29 PM)
what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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I don't think it is a good idea at all.
FSG saved the club on the brink of financial difficulty.
Also, FSG has done a lot of good work to the club, as compared to previous period.

The slump has a lot of to do with failure in transfer dealing, if there is no top manager available, sticking with BR may the better option in worst scenario.
Hiring another midtable manager is not a good option.

No club will announce the sacking of their manager at this period of time as well as before any plan of succession has ironed out.
There is no benefit to tell media about the manager position whether he is on the brink or not.
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post Apr 23 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Apr 23 2015, 01:23 PM)
highly doubt FSG will hire a world class manager because they need to prepare 2 things.. first top end manager contract, second backing him with 100-200mil transfer kitty + wage. At this moment Liverpool simply cant afford it, but what FSG can do it is.. slap transfer commitee and make sure they sign atleast 2 world class players. Work around core players and get rid of all the surplus should be the target for LFC in the summer
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Might as we ll abolish transfer committee entirely, for the last 3 years, the transfer dealing was poor mostly, be it identifying good player or wages negotiation or ability to sign targeted players.
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post Apr 23 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 23 2015, 02:32 PM)
oi, who wud in their right frame of mind admit their own mistake publicly lar?  sweat.gif dun look that far in bpl, look at our local *ahem* u oso can see edi lar. all same pattern wan.
just found an interesting article, if it's not alrdy posted here before. here goes.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...verpool-3020975

on the above article, if they can spend $300m on 2 players saja, i'm sure they got quite a deep poket liaw.  brows.gif  brows.gif

better start saving now to buy 2 news kits next year bah.  laugh.gif
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There is no need to admin the mistake publicly, just abolish the transfer committee and set a new course for the transfer dealing.

Just like how LVG abandoned 3 at the back formation, the team improve dramatically since then.
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post Apr 23 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 23 2015, 02:41 PM)
agreed on the bolded part. i think ur club is the only one that has a "committee" for the transfer dealings while other clubs all done by one fler saja eg. MD/DoF.

had to do 3 at the back previously cos lvg still testing bestest formation for the players that he has back then due to the injuries to the squad.
but just last weekend the injury curse seems to be back again. 4 defenders out  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Same with businesses, a company with 2 or 3 boss a lot of time operation won't be smooth one.
One head want to do thing via north, one wants via south, another one wants east way.
End result, delay in decision making, poor decision made.

Previously there were plenty of players being linked but fail to strike the deal sums up the "committee" effectiveness.

More head /= better decision.

Just like a snake with a 2 or 3 heads won't work well one. laugh.gif (just joking)

That's why 99% company out there being led by 1 CEO instead a committee.
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post Apr 24 2015, 03:11 PM

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Wot, BR is the best man for Liverpool and the word came from BR himself. laugh.gif

http://www.espnfcasia.com/liverpool/story/...e-liverpool-job
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Brendan Rodgers insists he's the best man to manage Liverpool


Can the club hire a PR manager to speak in interview?
Lot of his word have been backfired severely previously......

Spurs
Soton
LVG
Now BR is the best man for Liverpool... rclxub.gif

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post Apr 24 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 24 2015, 04:27 PM)
To be fair, I think every manager says the same thing when they are under pressure. I've yet to see a manager admit that he's a poor choice and the board should sack him. This is the first sign that a manager is feeling the heat. Rafa went through the same process but he progressed to the next stage where he started arguing with the owners and taking a swipe at his players by continuously citing that he needed better players which did no amount of good to their confidence. This is when he started to lose the dressing room. Although the majority of fans were still supportive of him, the pressure had clearly gotten to him and he started to embark on a series of incoherent rants. His responses to jibes from Fergie showed that he had lost his composure. 

The similarity between Rafa and Rodgers is that they both got it right at some point. Last season, we were unplayable for much of the season and many pundits admitted we were playing some of the best football in Europe. The same could be said of Rafa's team the season we finished 2nd. There isn't a doubt that the loss of Suarez was a massive blow and the absence of Sturridge through injury for a further kick in the teeth. Doesn't help also that we've signed a misfiring "superstar" in Balotelli. I'm just hoping that Sturridge returns to full fitness and we sign a decent forward before the next season begins. BR didn't had his choice of forwards turned down by the board last season and we were left with Balotelli which was admittedly, a panic buy. Not the first time manager and owners have disagreed. The latter didn't even want to for out a bit more for Dempsey last time round. I'm hoping they'll sanction the signing of a Mandzukic, Lavezzi or Cavani this time round. I wouldn't want to have to rely on Origi given the season he's just had at Lille.
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I think future the club cannot rely on Sturridge anymore forwards, if always with injury return date keep on unknown.

The club needs to sign at least 1 top striker and a decent strikers in the summer, with the fact Sturridge is not a reliable fit striker as well as Sterling is not a striker.
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post Apr 25 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 24 2015, 11:54 PM)
Pl u u ze  sweat.gif  do you know Liverpoolfc is lucky to have brendan Rodgers ? Tactical genius, English version punya Pep Guardiola, ok sweat.gif

You wait and see.  blush.gif
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Tactical genius? *fall of my chair*....

Tactic genius - let opponent team outplay you... sweat.gif

AW didn't brag about their 9 straight win, but BR with 12 matches unbeaten run, suddenly become a tactical genius?

What so hu ha about 12 matches unbeaten run?
only fulfill 1/3 route to top 4 place.

You want to be top 4, you cannot lose more than 7~8 matches for the entire season, means that you need at least to have 30 matches being unbeaten (whether it comes in series or not doesn't make a difference).
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post Apr 26 2015, 12:12 AM

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The tactical mastermind manager never learn that playing Balo as lone striker never work.
Balo is not Suarez.

More the a training ground attack vs defend.

Apart from Ibe hitting the bar, there was virtually zero threatening shot on goal.
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 26 2015, 09:21 PM)
come on, balo's record speaks for itself.
2006–2007  Lumezzane  2  (0)
2007–2010  Internazionale  59  (20)
2010–2013  Manchester City  54  (20)
2013–2014  Milan  43  (26)
2014–  Liverpool  15  (1)

was avg 1 goal every 2.5 games, until brenda came along.
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He plays as lone striker under BR.

Very few player can suit to lone striker role and yet can score 10~20 goals, except for the like Suarez, Hazard type of player who can make something out of nothing.

Balo is player that who can shoot from range, or tap in type of player, certainly not those nutmeg defender, dribble then score.
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post Apr 27 2015, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 26 2015, 09:36 PM)
I think he brendanrodgers is too busy preparing dossier vs 2.0 to reply you.

5th place and 2 semifinal is [cough] a modest achievement given we lost a prolific world class player.

Maybe can ask Rodgers give a sneak peek what's in 2.0 all aboutzzz 😬
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5th place with 2 semi final is a big achievement for midtable club standard or midtable manager.

I taught someone said before a club spending more than 100 mil means looking to challenge on the top...
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:50 AM

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Where is 3 at the back tactical genius formation?

Since 3 at the back magic spell being broken by MU, and switch to back 4, the team is playing poorly since then, hardly can score.

Many have been criticising putting Gerrard as defensive midfield, yet the manager keep on doing it.
Same with Balo, everyone already said he is suit to lone striker role, yet keep on being played as lone striker.

I sincerely hope the team finish 7th and miss out Europa League, if not, excuse of need to improve depth of squad again that bring in more mediocre players.
Europe stage is too "deep" for the manager.
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 29 2015, 10:45 AM)
lvg try so hard to give us slight faint of hope by losing 2 matches in a row..well, at least br outdid lvg in one area.
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Remember someone warned LVG may find it tough in EPL...

On paper, Liv had an easier run in than MU for the last 10 matches, yet BR screwed up so badly.


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post Apr 29 2015, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 29 2015, 10:51 AM)
Losing Suarez and Struji(2/3 of season) is like taken out 50 goals from us between them.
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Based on the logic of above statement,

it just mean Suarez 70 mil (which total up 100 mil over the summer transfer dealing) cannot buy a single goal.

Last year scored 100 goals, - 50 goals (by suarez+Sturridge) = 50 goals.

How many goals scored since the season started until now?
47 goals.

100 mil spent but cannot buy a single goal...
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post Apr 29 2015, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 29 2015, 08:33 PM)
Many are still behind Teguh with Brendan Rodgers because they say he makes Liverpool play attractive attacking football.

They all hated rafa Benitez and probably even Jose mourino cause these managers seems to set their teams defensively (I'm keliru on this)

So these fans rather hope Rodgers stay for reasons they enjoy watching Liverpool now (lagi I keliru)
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Attacking football?

This year, plenty of matches being outplayed by opponent (especially against big team), and only manage to score 47 goals with none of player get more than 7 goals.
I am scratching my head for the term "attractive" football.

I don't reckon Chelsea is playing a boring football, in fact, look at Hazard's goals against MU, it is a beauty and exquisite and attractive to watch.

Liv's attractive football was last year, this year since the season started, I cannot remember many matches Liv was playing well, even in the 12 matches unbeaten run (that constantly being bragged about), some of those were riding on luck (like against Swansea, Hendo's goal), need 2 own goals to win against QPR while being outplayed almost entire match.

I don't know what is the "enjoyment" about watching Liv plays this year.
In fact, plenty of pain and disappointment when watching. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 29 2015, 11:41 PM)
its impossible to avoid europa...unless LFC loses all remaining games and swansea wins all theirs so LFC ends up on 8th tongue.gif

so means next season, LFC gonna be stretched thin again...
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7th won't get Europa league if Villa win the FA cup.


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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Apr 30 2015, 07:30 AM)
Are there higher chances of #BrOut if we lose both the games?
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Yes, pressure will be mounting on the manager if lose against QPR and Chelsea or worst lose all the remaining matches.

The club should be review the manager position seriously, it is painful to watch the team this year after spending more than 100 million.
Keep on changing formation, no striker upfront, no steel in midfield, no creative in the final third.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 30 2015, 08:27 AM)
umm ya, which is what i said 1hr ago.
not like villa will win anyway, they're not playing LFC in the final  whistling.gif
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0-0 with penalty shootout, also can.
Sherwood is a decent manager and brushed aside easily against tactical genius in semi-final.

Ya, but to be realistic, Arsenal seldom slip up like Liv did.

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