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post Mar 4 2017, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Gilthoniel @ Mar 3 2017, 07:55 PM)
sigh... looks like i'm the only sad case preorder from Qisahn and have to wait till next week
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You are not the only one. No rush though. Let them do their stuff.
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post Mar 4 2017, 11:24 PM

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are there any problem if i gonna buy my switch from japan?
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post Mar 4 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(sorcerer @ Mar 4 2017, 11:24 PM)
are there any problem if i gonna buy my switch from japan?
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Looking for the answer too smile.gif
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QUOTE(sorcerer @ Mar 4 2017, 11:24 PM)
are there any problem if i gonna buy my switch from japan?
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go there & physically buy it: no problem other than finding stock
import online: stricter japan post regulation about shipping li-on powered device due to note 7 incident might causing problem, worst case possible had to be returned to seller
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edit: I forgot. need travel adapter since japan plug head is different than ours

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post Mar 4 2017, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 4 2017, 08:01 PM)
Anything without USB-PD (charges via USB-C out and have at least 15V 2A charge profile) will only charge at maximum 12W (5V 2.4A). QuickCharge or whatever speeding up charger won't work with Switch, so when you use these it'll either defaults back to the maximum USB-A charger can do (5V 2.4A 12W), worn charge at all or worse, damage your Switch battery.

Also works: Omnicharge Omni 13 and RAVPower Powerstation. Google those. Those are camping/travel hiking off-the-grid chargers that works because they have standard 3-pin power outlet port on them.
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I see, thanks for the info, looks like ravpower seems like the ideal one to get
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post Mar 4 2017, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Mar 4 2017, 08:08 PM)
Docking scratching the screen and also peeling off screen protector.. rip.

Seems pointless getting screenprotector now
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get a tempered glass instead
a bit expensive than a normal screen protector,but its worth it smile.gif

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 4 2017, 09:22 PM)
Bear in mind, the current powerbanks dilemma I brought up only applies to playing and charging at the same, if your usage pattern revolves around leaving it in sleep mode and charging it while it's idling on the Switch dashboard/"Page", your current powerbanks will charge it accordingly, because power draw at idle isn't any different than the power draw of your smartphone.  If you're gaming and wanting to charge to either maintain battery life parity, stopping it from draining, or charging it at a reasonable rate while playing, current smartphone powerbanks won't cut it.
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thats the same dilemma i'm having, having it charged and play at the same time is one of the main reason i'm getting the powerbanks for the switch, would be good for playing it on trips or a long flight

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post Mar 4 2017, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(fookiat @ Mar 4 2017, 10:28 PM)
You are not the only one. No rush though. Let them do their stuff.
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I've requested a refund from them and ordered a switch from true gamers

My horizon game apparently shipped last Monday had not reached me. No tracking available too.
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post Mar 5 2017, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(hafez13 @ Mar 4 2017, 11:48 PM)
get a tempered glass instead
a bit expensive than a normal screen protector,but its worth it smile.gif
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Where did you buy it?

Don't really care for tempered glass but if they have that I hope they have blue light filter screen protector.
Have one on my N3DS and it really helps reduce eye strain smile.gif

Edit: Found them.
Truegamers are not messing around, selling the damned thing for RM199
http://www.lazada.com.my/nintendo-switch-b...7-20852132.html

Impulse has them for RM59 and Playasia is selling them for RM45

Although the Official PREMIUM Hori one looks tempting... Mainly because it says PREMIUM

http://www.play-asia.com/premium-protectiv...witch/13/70awhj




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post Mar 5 2017, 12:23 AM

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The Shinen guys truly are gods. Look at those weather and particle effects! On a portable system no less!

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post Mar 5 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 4 2017, 09:22 PM)
Bear in mind, the current powerbanks dilemma I brought up only applies to playing and charging at the same, if your usage pattern revolves around leaving it in sleep mode and charging it while it's idling on the Switch dashboard/"Page", your current powerbanks will charge it accordingly, because power draw at idle isn't any different than the power draw of your smartphone.  If you're gaming and wanting to charge to either maintain battery life parity, stopping it from draining, or charging it at a reasonable rate while playing, current smartphone powerbanks won't cut it.
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Dude. I'm using Xiaomi 20k mah powerbank which outputs a maximum of 5V 2.4A per port (2 ports). I can play Zelda and the powerbank will still charge the Switch. The only caveat is I need to use the USB cable provided by the Pro Controller. I can't use any other USB cable to do this. Additionally, and weirdly, the same setup can't charge the Pro Controller...
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Mar 5 2017, 12:33 AM)
Dude. I'm using Xiaomi 20k mah powerbank which outputs a maximum of 5V 2.4A per port (2 ports). I can play Zelda and the powerbank will still charge the Switch. The only caveat is I need to use the USB cable provided by the Pro Controller. I can't use any other USB cable to do this. Additionally, and weirdly, the same setup can't charge the Pro Controller...
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It will charge, but will it charge fast enough compared to the battery drain induced by the games? I'm charging using my my Aukey 30000 mAh powerbank as well, but because it's using USB-A, that's 12W max (5V 2.4A).

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If I play mild games like PuyoPuyo, the power draw may be low and your current powerbank may be able to mitigate the power drain by compensating with its own power charging. If the game and its resultant power drain only requires 12W from the battery and your powerbank can supply the same 12W charge, your battery percentage will not budge. If the game is less demanding, your powerbank will charge even.

The newer generation USB-C powerbanks with USB-PD allows up 30W, and that is only 9W shy of the official Nintendo charger rated at 39W.

So it all depends on what you're doing with the Switch: if you're just spending time in the dashboard, that won't drain out 12W and any powerbank can charge your Switch no problems. Play simple games like PuyoPuyo, you may even get away with current phone powerbanks. But do anything more intensive than that, you need powerbanks like the RAVPower.

Your Xiaomi and my Aukey powerbanks are USB-A out only. That tops out at 12W. Sure there are QuickCharge mechanism in some powerbanks but the Switch doesn't take advantage of that, and will drop back down to taking 12W maximum from the older gen powerbanks.

When charging your Pro Controller, I'm guessing that it's picky about your 5V 2.4A charge ports. Have you tried charging using a PC USB port and does it charge? If it does, then the Pro Controller doesn't like your 5V 2.4A ports and only will take a charge from 5V 1.5A USB ports. Check your Switch official charger. See the rating? 15V 2.6A and 5V 1.5A. The first rating is for the Switch on docked mode, that takes 39w (15 x 2.6), but the second rating is for the USB ports in the dock itself, which is used to charge your accessories including the Pro Controller and the Charging Grip.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Mar 5 2017, 12:50 AM)
It will charge, but will it charge fast enough compared to the battery drain induced by the games? I'm charging using my my Aukey 30000 mAh powerbank as well, but because it's using USB-A, that's 12W max (5V 2.4A).

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If I play mild games like PuyoPuyo, the power draw may be low and your current powerbank may be able to mitigate the power drain by compensating with its own power charging. If the game and its resultant power drain only requires 12W from the battery and your powerbank can supply the same 12W charge, your battery percentage will not budge. If the game is less demanding, your powerbank will charge even.

The newer generation USB-C powerbanks with USB-PD allows up 30W, and that is only 9W shy of the official Nintendo charger rated at 39W.

So it all depends on what you're doing with the Switch: if you're just spending time in the dashboard, that won't drain out 12W and any powerbank can charge your Switch no problems. Play simple games like PuyoPuyo, you may even get away with current phone powerbanks. But do anything more intensive than that, you need powerbanks like the RAVPower.

Your Xiaomi and my Aukey powerbanks are USB-A out only. That tops out at 12W. Sure there are QuickCharge mechanism in some powerbanks but the Switch doesn't take advantage of that, and will drop back down to taking 12W maximum from the older gen powerbanks.

When charging your Pro Controller, I'm guessing that it's picky about your 5V 2.4A charge ports. Have you tried charging using a PC USB port and does it charge? If it does, then the Pro Controller doesn't like your 5V 2.4A ports and only will take a charge from 5V 1.5A USB ports. Check your Switch official charger. See the rating? 15V 2.6A and 5V 1.5A. The first rating is for the Switch on docked mode, that takes 39w (15 x 2.6), but the second rating is for the USB ports in the dock itself, which is used to charge your accessories including the Pro Controller and the Charging Grip.
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I did say I'm playing Zelda while charging it via my powerbank, not sleep mode / dashboard... The battery meter is going up, not just maintain or going down. Didn't do a timer to compare AC vs Powerbank though... My powerbank has quickcharge, but for input only. Output is still 2.4A 5V max. I'm playing undocked, with medium (default) brightness.

The Pro controller can charge fine from the Switch's AC adapter. Just not from my powerbank...

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QUOTE(angelaers @ Mar 5 2017, 12:23 AM)
Where did you buy it?

Don't really care for tempered glass but if they have that I hope they have blue light filter screen protector.
Have one on my N3DS and it really helps reduce eye strain smile.gif

Edit: Found them.
Truegamers are not messing around, selling the damned thing for RM199
http://www.lazada.com.my/nintendo-switch-b...7-20852132.html

Impulse has them for RM59 and Playasia is selling them for RM45

Although the Official PREMIUM Hori one looks tempting... Mainly because it says PREMIUM

http://www.play-asia.com/premium-protectiv...witch/13/70awhj


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preferred the tempered glass as its the same as my phone, feel so nice.
actually, i'm trying to search around lazada,gemfive, noluck
the nearest is playasia, and amazon uk does not ship to Malaysia.
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is there any thread to share friends code? laugh.gif
or is this the one? laugh.gif
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post Mar 5 2017, 01:07 AM

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i put my switch friend code on the signature, easier
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Mar 5 2017, 01:00 AM)
I did say I'm playing Zelda while charging it via my powerbank, not sleep mode / dashboard... The battery meter is going up, not just maintain or going down. Didn't do a timer to compare AC vs Powerbank though... My powerbank has quickcharge, but for input only. Output is still 2.4A 5V max. I'm playing undocked, with medium (default) brightness.
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That's good news then, in my case I couldnt get my Switch to hold the charge without draining with my Aukey, and its also 5V 2.4A maximum. I tested this with Fast RMX, I didn't play much of Zelda yet. Unless there's a way to measure wattage drained out of specific games, my guess is that, in portable mode, Fast RMX is power-hungrier than Zelda? unsure.gif



Recent teardown by iFixit. They didnt elaborate on the PCB on the dock though, I was more interested in that than the Switch teardown.
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Mar 5 2017, 12:33 AM)
Dude. I'm using Xiaomi 20k mah powerbank which outputs a maximum of 5V 2.4A per port (2 ports). I can play Zelda and the powerbank will still charge the Switch. The only caveat is I need to use the USB cable provided by the Pro Controller. I can't use any other USB cable to do this. Additionally, and weirdly, the same setup can't charge the Pro Controller...
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Is this your type of powerbank?
http://www.gearbest.com/power-banks/pp_263761.html

and you need a specific usb c cable to charge it?
interesting, wonder whats the specification then.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Mar 5 2017, 01:00 AM)
The Pro controller can charge fine from the Switch's AC adapter. Just not from my powerbank...
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Pro Controller takes 5V 1.5A from the USB ports on the dock. The dual rated Switch charger shows that. One for the Switch(15V 2.6A) one for the dock to charge accessories using the USB ports there (5V 1.5A). If you dont match the rating, it wont charge.

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QUOTE(hafez13 @ Mar 5 2017, 01:02 AM)
preferred the tempered glass as its the same as my phone, feel so nice.
actually, i'm trying to search around lazada,gemfive, noluck
the nearest is playasia, and amazon uk does not ship to Malaysia.
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Wanna split cost on Play-asia?

Planning on getting these;
http://www.play-asia.com/screen-protector-...ut-ty/13/70axep
http://www.play-asia.com/super-bomberman-r/13/70avh7

3 day shipping would cost around RM50. If you plan on getting just the screen protector can split it 3 way (RM17)
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Here's the link to the external charger and powerbank testing thread on Reddit and the layman terms to explain it. https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/com...erbank_testing/

Particularly this GoogleDoc spreadsheet for the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hEg...dit?usp=sharing

In short, getting the RAVPower 26,800maH with USB-PD is like using almost as good as using your official Nintendo AC charger, albeit you're totally portable. Unless future games consumes more than 30W of power draw from the Switch, you'll be charging your Switch happily while gaming from the RAVPower powerbank.

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