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post Apr 14 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Apr 14 2015, 04:02 PM)
PRC definitely gonna do this in Spratly
we're farked
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there PRC real airfield in making at Spratly yongshu island laugh.gif

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post Apr 16 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 16 2015, 12:33 PM)
speaking of which, did anyone notice that the Russians are developing their next-gen Sukhois based on the Su-30-MKMs as a base, instead of their own base?
Did Malaysia's spec outdo their "top spec" which they refused to sell to us in the first place?
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Russia no money to develop new su-30, maybe enhancement su30 more possible. like change to AESA radar, new engine etc.
most money use in Su-50 i think .
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post Apr 17 2015, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 17 2015, 10:54 AM)
Dont think that will hapen. We dont usually go bomb another coutry considering how limited our planes are

I believe there a procurment news soon. Most likely rmn or air force
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rmn so far only DSME ship is litter big budget ....
Army so far Attack heli is big budget...
than MRCA project sure big budget and sure get hoo-haa on politic ...
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post Apr 17 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Apr 17 2015, 01:16 PM)
My bet goes to this
Looks like something with all the tri-service branch
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post Apr 17 2015, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Apr 17 2015, 02:45 PM)
later DCNS QC vs BNS QC on Gowind laugh.gif

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post Apr 17 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Apr 17 2015, 02:59 PM)
See siapa siap dulu brows.gif
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our one gowind maybe can launch at 2018,
but complete commissioning maybe need wait until 2020.
remember news NSM only delivery Gowind NSM integration in 2020.
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post Apr 17 2015, 05:02 PM

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#SaudiArabia Army using PLZ-45 (#China Type 88) 155mm SPG w/ PCZ-45 supt veh to shell #Houthi over #Yemen border

i wander solder beside plz45 can tahan sound。。。。

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post Apr 18 2015, 01:27 PM

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yongshu island runway still in construction date 17 April

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post Apr 18 2015, 05:17 PM

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new video for MBT3000 ....


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post Apr 18 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Apr 18 2015, 09:01 PM)
They should really sell these to african customer, at least can test on how these tank would work under harsh condition and maybe get some actual combat experience
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Morocco already got MBT2000 VT1 ....
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post Apr 19 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 19 2015, 01:02 AM)
This MBT has way too much high-tech gear to simply sell to the kind of countries that are used to basic lower-tier,rough and tumble tanks like the T-72. The technical learning curve would be quite steep, I imagine. Countries with good technical knowhow like Pakistan probably could handle this issue, but I don't see countries like Kenya or Nigeria having the necessary tech to deploy and maintain a fleet of these effectively.

Also, it might be cheaper than some tanks, but it's hardly T-72 kind of cheap. Some sources say it will nominally cost about $4.5-5 Million USD per unit. Even later versions of T-72s usually cost something like $1.5-2 Million USD only.
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just simply to said Noricco design MBT3000 to leading T-90S MBT,
MBT2000 still a bit Relatively poor to T-90 MBT.
The price also competition with T-90
basically MBT3000 vs T-90 in international market.
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post Apr 19 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 19 2015, 10:00 AM)
Smart s mk2 is a search radar  and not a muti-mode like herakles radar which can do both search n fire control

To counter this, we installed a seperate fire control radar TMX/EO MK 2. Althought it very precise but it capability basically limit it engagement range to 80km at best. Thus, vl mica fit tat space.

Iimm we also can install aster system if we install  sylver vls A60 and change our fire control radar
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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 19 2015, 02:25 PM)
Just wait and see which version of slyver vls will be installed 

If a50, then there hope for the future upgrade. If not... biasa  lah
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that TMX/EO MK 2 also fit 50km ESSM, if change fire control radar, more easy change to herakles radar right?
at the end i think mostly A35 Sylver will be install, if lucky possible A43. A50 baiscally no hope. if they think A50 by logic from very early they will select herakles radar. but with sylver A43 still can install CAMM-ER.
if use MICA than dont think too much on future upgrade, it will be 20 year later time, by that time not sure what weapon already. (maybe already using LASER)
anyway, RMN still not put Air defense for ship as priority it mainly as ASW frigate, as they think get any SAM is ok already.

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post Apr 19 2015, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 19 2015, 03:44 PM)
Camm-er no longer quad pack.
Camm is more likely if were chosen.
Lots of intergration work is required.
camm-er is more to land based system.
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yeah, camm-er take time for marine version
anyway get camm already ok, still better than MICA in range and quantity.
if CAMM is Gov got money to get many unit?

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post Apr 19 2015, 04:01 PM

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still hope 10 year later we can buy 2-3 AAW frigate.

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post Apr 19 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 19 2015, 04:05 PM)
Most likely in several batch.
I dun think there will be problem for us to get large amount of its.
Given the r-27, r-77, r-73  in the inventory.
it wont surprise me if we get large amount of camm if we go for it.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 19 2015, 04:08 PM)
That have to wait for the gowind class fully deliver.
tgpv will start after sgpv fully commission into service.
Probably we will be seeing type 26.
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let pray for it.
now left Torpedo model not confirm for Gowind.
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post Apr 19 2015, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Apr 19 2015, 03:26 PM)
By 2018 the seawolf missile in the lekiu-class gonna be discontinued by the mbda, so..
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just sell discontinue, but already bought in ship still can use.
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post Apr 19 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 19 2015, 05:41 PM)
Well it is no longer viable to keep in the inventory.
mainly limited missile and only 2nd hand missile available in the market if we ever need to buy additional missile.
another reasons is service support no longer cheap.
Thus when products reach eol, most of the customer would replace it.
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yeah i know,
usually they will still provide support for 5 year after EOL of product ... like other commercial product, give some time for customer get replacement.
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post Apr 19 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 19 2015, 06:43 PM)
Hemm mu90 there the anti torpedo variant

MU90 Hard Kill

Just there still fear.. it might not work properly especially it from eurotorp. Hahaha

Something the Australian highlighted. Another thing is the system for anti torpedo..
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also depend ship helicopter, if confirm Gowind helis is ASW helis, than 90% is MU90, more logic ship and ASW helis also use same torpedo

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post Apr 20 2015, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 19 2015, 11:41 PM)
no news yet mean choices are still open.

But there already indication or giveaway what type of heli is being sought after
The new gowind deck been extended as well as its hanger. Meaning, the navy is looking for a bigger asw than the current fennec/lynx whistling.gif
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Gowind in ori design already can fit NH90 size 10 tons heli, so no issue fit seahawk or NH90. even can add 1 more S100 uav for our Gowind
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post Apr 20 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Apr 20 2015, 12:19 AM)
Seahawk is good, very capable asw platform for the gowind
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depend what you see. I refer to Seahawk romeo
technically yes, one of best ASW heli, it still can use in our Gowind, but not 100% best solution for Gowind. if finally select for Gowind, than mainly due to price is cheaper, still prefer AW159 if cost is main consideration. due to RMN already use AW Super Lynx, maintenance team is here
1) Our Gowind is use Thales ASW system, than Seahawk use own system from L3, means both work independently, can't share data between ship/Heli, if want to install Thales ASW system in Seahawk, than have to pay more for RnD and Integration. than price even expensive than AW159 ASW. (we only need 6)
2. Too small space in seahawk, Seahawk romeo with ASW system there is no space anymore for SAR, crew/goods transport or event Medical assistance, same issue to AW159. remember only 1 heli fit in Gowind, well on US DDG, they have 2 heli hanger , 1 for ASW Heli, other 1 for crew/goods transport and SAR.

so i think Gowind probably not get ASW heli, just normal navy heli with search radar and FLIR, mostly Seahwak/AW159. only Nh90NFH fit both,but just too expensive.

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