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post Jul 21 2017, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Jul 21 2017, 10:11 AM)
thanks
cause i am working
may be plan to play around with hyper v  those kind of software
but not sure nvme is it worth
but got 1 question wanna ask

i know hdd can clone to ssd
is it possible ssd clone to nvme?
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for virtualization, especially building and running multiple copies at the same time, yes it helps.

well, whether if it's worth it or not, it's really subjective imo. (considering i also have large sata ssds to store and run my vms and have good performance)

to me it is worth it.

yes it's possible, as long as you have hardware/software settings set up properly. for instance, for instance, your system should be a uefi setup for current os in hdd at least.





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post Jul 21 2017, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Jul 21 2017, 05:17 PM)
ok thanks
cause going to get ryzen
so plan to format and install fresh os into ssd
then future if i wan to use nvme
just clone entire ssd to nvme

but not sure is it possible or not
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for ryzen systems i think it will work the same. just make sure you have everything set up (bios settings especially) to match those needed for nvme ssd also. that's about it actually.

if it doesn't work, just do a fresh install. ssd is much faster in everything, including installing software.
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post Jul 21 2017, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Jul 21 2017, 05:35 PM)
ya just sometime lazy of installing those like windows patches
or software requirement
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ok yeah it's tedious for me too, but i will do it anyway hehe; because that's the least problematic for a system in the long run.

to me, it's just one-time, then i create and maintain system images for future system restores. (and i only update system images when there are new windows updates)
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post Jul 22 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(kcirdenk @ Jul 21 2017, 07:21 PM)
is m.2 ssd tend to get very hot? planning to get one for steam games.
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m.2 sata ssd is not that hot compared to m.2 nvme

although it's ok to use m.2 nvme without passive heat sink for normal use, it's good to have one. at least it makes the ssd operate way below thermal throttling limit.

QUOTE(silrave @ Jul 21 2017, 08:49 PM)
Hehe ok will try do as your way
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haha when it becomes your habit you will not think it's troublesome. tbh with system images your systems will be recovered much faster also.
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post Jul 22 2017, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(kcirdenk @ Jul 22 2017, 12:45 PM)
hi, dont mind me asking again.

is this Kingston m.2 can slot into my Asus Prime B250M-A motherboard? Tq.

https://www.lelong.com.my/kingston-m-2-120g...8-02-Sale-P.htm
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according to specs here, https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-...specifications/ yes you can use this m.2 sata ssd on one of the m.2 slots.

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1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (SATA mode & X4 PCIE mode) *1

*1 When a device in SATA mode is installed on the M.2_1 socket, SATA_1 port cannot be used.
consult your mobo manual the location of the sata_1 port, because if you plugged in a sata hdd on that port, the hdd will not work.
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post Jul 23 2017, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(afiq10 @ Jul 23 2017, 08:28 PM)
Guys, anyone can recommend me for best budget option SSD 120gb/128gb +/- around

RM200+/- price

2nd hand or new dont care.. (prefer new)

right now im looking at
PNY CS1311
SAMSUNG 750 EVO
idk.. seems terrible.. any other suggestion?
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well the common saying of 'you get what you pay for' applies in general.

since you have tight budget, your choices are ok for normal use already.

a place for good deals is lyn's garage sales > ssd section. just check it out for more options.


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post Jul 23 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(air_pull91 @ Jul 23 2017, 08:45 PM)
i sold my 840 pro 128gb for rm180 last few month..
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oh too bad it's sold if not it's a good deal to him smile.gif

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post Jul 26 2017, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(gbsaint @ Jul 25 2017, 07:41 PM)
Guys wanna asl. I wanna buy a used micron/crucial mx550 512gb from a seller.

I asked regarding any info of the ssd however the seller onky send me this pic??

Does it mean the ssd is in okay condition??
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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from the screen shot, it looks healthy, but information like total host writes was not shown.

you can ask the seller to send you a screen shot of crystal diskinfo for that drive, or use crucial storage executive, http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support-stor...orage-executive

QUOTE(kcirdenk @ Jul 25 2017, 08:14 PM)
Hi, is the benchmark for my Kingston UV400 120GB ok?
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some numbers are at relatively lower sides, but it's still acceptable. you can compare it to benchmark scores of the same found online.
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post Jul 26 2017, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(stereobiru @ Jul 26 2017, 04:52 PM)
Guys, anyone can recommend me for best budget for SSD 256GB. Thanks
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which form factor? m.2 or 2.5"?

for 2.5" i think you can choose from kingston or samsung. (there is no 'best' in budget ssds; they are almost the same in performance) alternatively you can check out garage sales here for good deals also.
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post Jul 26 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(stereobiru @ Jul 26 2017, 07:33 PM)
2.5.. im looking to upgrade my laptop ASUSPRO BU400A. I'm just survey model n also the price..
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ok; i suggest samsung 850 evo 250gb for its 5-year warranty. the price gap between budget ssd and mainstream ssd is narrow actually. budget ssd is about myr 400 (3 years of warranty); adding another myr70.00 you will get additional 2 years of warranty for samsung 850 evo. (and also relatively better performance) imo it's a better buy.
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post Jul 27 2017, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Jul 26 2017, 08:02 PM)
Using 2.5 SanDisk 240GB at the moment, bought it for about 250+ on lazada when it was on sale. Or was it 299. lol. Now selling at 369 i think lol Been using it for a few months only. lol
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ok smile.gif yeah you got it during sales; which model is your ssd?


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post Jul 29 2017, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 29 2017, 01:31 PM)
Anyone knows where I can find Aqua Computer kryoM.2 evo in Malaysia?
It's not available even in eBay international. And the shipping fees from Aqua Computer website is really expensive doh.gif

My 950 Pro is really hot at 50°C on idle sweat.gif
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nice the heat sink looks thick smile.gif however not sure where to get this.

i still use an adapter with a thin passive heat sink bought few years ago; 35c idle. to me it's damn good already.

edit: noticed that samsung 960 pro has dropped price for a bit.

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post Jul 30 2017, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Jul 29 2017, 10:31 PM)
my sandisk ssd plus died.
it won't power on.
anyone know where i can rma locally before i initiate with the global site?

https://kb.sandisk.com/app/rmaform
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search for sandisk here, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505086

edit: from https://www.sandisk.com/about/where-to-buy > Distributors (Retail)

Build Technology Supply Sdn Bhd (617045-T)
1st Floor, Left Wing Infinite Centre, Lot 1, Jalan 13/6, 46200, Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan.
Tel: +60 3 79553699
Fax: +60 3 79553611
Email: salesweb@build.com.my

Futuromic Photo AV Sdn. Bhd.
16, Jalan PJU 5/16, PJU5, Dataran Sunway,Kota Damansara, 47810 Petaling Jaya,Selangor D.E., Malaysia
Tel: +60 3 61566633
Fax: +60 3 61572166
Email: marketing@futuromic.om

Vector Digital Sdn Bhd
Amoda Building, Level 3, Units 3.07, 22 Jalan Imbi, 55100 Kuala Lumpur (opposite Berjaya Time Square)
Tel: 03-21432822
Email: sales@vectordigital.com.my



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post Aug 5 2017, 10:21 PM

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finally the usual report from hardware.fr was out.

for ssds, the top brands with the least return rates:

1. Samsung 0,17% (previously 0,20%)
2. Intel 0,19% (previously 0,27%)
3. Crucial 0,31% (previously 0,28%)
4. Sandisk 0,31% (previously 0,62%)
5. Corsair 0,36% (previously 1,67%)
6. Kingston 0,44% (previously 0,29%)

ssds with highest return rates:
3,59% Kingston SSDNow KC400 Series 512gb
1,37% Crucial MX200 500gb
1,08% Crucial MX200 1tb
0,95% SanDisk SSD PLUS 480gb
0,93% Kingston SSDNow M.2 SATA G2 480gb

for more information, http://www.hardware.fr/articles/962-7/ssd.html

also don't forget to check out http://www.hardware.fr/articles/962-8/conclusion.html

edit: will be switching to 960 pro when i have the time to set it up. it's been in the package for too long :/

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post Aug 7 2017, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 7 2017, 08:36 PM)
Bought this adaptor for my Samsung 950 Pro 512GB
Before using the adapter: 50°C vmad.gif
After using the adapter: 36°C thumbup.gif

PS: Both temperatures is when my system on idle, no air-conditioner in the room

Where to buy: https://www.lazada.com.my/pci-e-30-x4-lane-...ails.0.0.IuFB7a

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thanks a lot for the link smile.gif

however i think passive cooling is sufficient. mine is 35c at idle.

QUOTE(llk @ Aug 7 2017, 08:43 PM)
Holy crap! I have one Kingston SSDNow KC400 Series 512gb  sweat.gif
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it's not that bad i think, because the return rates for ssd is still the lowest of all common hardware components.

QUOTE(marfccy @ Aug 7 2017, 09:09 PM)
can we attribute that drop for Intel due to lack of competitive SSDs against others out there atm? biggrin.gif

since 530s, somehow nothing improved
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yeah it's possible, because if you compared all the brands, intel is not much of an attention these days. i wonder when is the day they make storage based on optane hehe



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post Aug 9 2017, 12:53 AM

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i think intel naik angin. 1pb Ruler ssd (1,000 terabytes) sleep.gif

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/08/intels-...-kind-of-drive/
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post Aug 10 2017, 05:07 PM

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maybe this time is for real for the era of affordable high capacity ssd?

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/10/samsung...or-massive-ssd/

there is already a report about toshiba's 3d tlc nand at enterprise space, squeezing 30tb in 2.5" form factor, http://www.anandtech.com/show/11696/toshib...ith-3d-tlc-nand

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post Aug 11 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 11 2017, 09:00 PM)
How about units sales % vs rma ?
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the report is about failure return rates of common hardware, focusing on giving users hints about which brands and models to get. iinm it's based on a large e-tailer in france.

actually at the beginning of the article there is a part that explained how the numbers were concluded. using google translate, it's as quoted below.

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If there is an unknown during the advice and the purchase of a material, it is its reliability. Certainly the reputation of a manufacturer is there to reassure us, but from one model to another it can vary enormously and even renowned builders are not immune to a blunder!

Although past performance does not bode well for future performance, we are releasing today some of the breakdown rate statistics available to us. They cover parts sold during the second half of 2016, for returns created before the second half of 2017, ie a maximum of one year of operation. The change in the rate of breakdown over the lifetime of a product generally forms a flat U, practically flat, and these figures therefore cover the first part of their life, when the rate is high.

This type of statistics needs some retreat, so some of the products have become obsolete. Nevertheless, these statistics are informative and make it possible to point the finger of products to see manufacturers who are hoping that they will improve things in the future. On the last page, we also publish statistics on sales in the first half of 2017, although with a less significant decline, but which already allows us to see the bad students.

For each product family we publish data by manufacturer, as well as parts with return rates greater than 5% or failing that the 5 parts with the highest rate. It is impossible for us to publish the rates of all the products, but if not we publish those of the parts having some common characteristics headlights (capacity for a hard disk, GPU for a graphics card, etc ...) See what good students are.

The statistics by brand are based on a minimum sample of 500 pieces sold, those by models on a minimum sample of 100 pieces sold. When the sample is smaller than 200 pieces, the designation is italicized. The largest volumes of tens of thousands of parts per brand and thousands of parts per model. Each time we compared the rates obtained by the manufacturers with those of our previous article on the subject published in December 2016.
QUOTE(firdausbhari @ Aug 11 2017, 09:28 PM)
does anyone tried SSD RAID 0 using USB 3.0 hub? i got mini raid enclosure just to test out to RAID my unused SSDs

apparently the max speed it can go not more than 600MBps....
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that's the theoretical max bandwidth limit of usb 3.0. in real world, you cannot go that fast because of various reasons.
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post Aug 11 2017, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ Aug 11 2017, 10:51 PM)
yes. i searched online and thunderbolt enclosure is the solution.

but the price..... bangwall.gif
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yeah; well, if you really need that fast of the speed, thunderbolt makes more sense.
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post Aug 11 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ Aug 11 2017, 11:41 PM)
probably not. can spend on another computer for the price of thunderbolt enclosure haha

eventho it limited to 600MBps, it is still fast
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yeah that's what i thought. i use ssd as usb-3.0 portal disk also. the speed is better than hdd already and i'm fine with that hehe


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