Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
39 Pages < 1 2 3 4 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 LYN Catholic Fellowship V01 (Group), For Catholics (Roman or Eastern)

views
     
khool
post Mar 13 2015, 04:16 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 13 2015, 02:14 PM)
This coming Sunday March 15th, 2015 is the Fourth Sunday in Lent traditionally known as Laetare Sunday (based on the first words of the Introit of the Mass - laetare meaning rejoice).

In Roman Catholic churches, there may be flowers on the high altar, the organ may be played as a solo instrument, and priests are given the option to wear rose-coloured vestments (many times mistaken with pink) at Mass held on this day, in place of the violet vestments normally worn during Lent. In the western liturgical system, purple is the colour of Lenten penance, and white is the colour of feast days. Rose-pink is the colour of Laetare as the colour obtained naturally by mixing violet and white.

The day is a day of relaxation from normal Lenten rigours; a day of hope with Easter (the Resurrection of Christ) being at last within sight. Traditionally, even weddings (otherwise banned during Lent) could be performed on this day.

Will your priest wear violet or rose on this day? Post up some pictures if you can.  laugh.gif

Sample of rose vestments:
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image

This one looks more like salmon colour...  laugh.gif
user posted image
*
Last one looks very oriental in design ... smile.gif
khool
post Mar 16 2015, 09:38 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 16 2015, 01:08 AM)
user posted image
*
Amen!

khool
post Mar 19 2015, 07:46 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


Catechism of the Catholic Church

Source: Wikipedia

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (or CCC) is a catechism promulgated for the Catholic Church by Pope John Paul II in 1992.

Publication history
The decision to publish a catechism was taken at the Extraordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops that was convened by Pope John Paul II on 25 January 1985 for the 20th anniversary of the close of the Second Vatican Council, and in 1986, put a commission composed of 12 bishops and cardinals in charge of the project. The commission was assisted by a seven-member committee including diocesan bishops and experts in theology and catechesis.

The text was approved by John Paul II on 25 June 1992, and promulgated by him on 11 October 1992, the 30th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, with his apostolic constitution, Fidei depositum. Cardinal Georges Cottier, Theologian emeritus of the Pontifical Household and now Cardinal-Deacon of Santi Domenico e Sisto the University Church of the Pontifical University of Saint Thomas Aquinas, Angelicum was influential in drafting the encyclical.

It was published in the French language in 1992. Later it was then translated into many other languages. In the United States, the English translation was published by the U.S. bishops in 1994, with a note that it was "subject to revision according to the Latin typical edition (editio typica) when it is published."

On August 15, 1997—the Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary— John Paul II promulgated the Latin typical edition, with his apostolic letter, Laetamur Magnopere. The Latin text, which became the official text of reference (editio typica), amended the contents of the provisional French text at a few points. One of the changes consisted in the inclusion of the position on death penalty that is defended in John Paul II's encyclical Evangelium Vitae of 1995.

As a result, the earlier translations from the French into other languages (including English) had to be amended and re-published as "second editions".
Doctrinal value

In Fidei depositum, John Paul II declared that the Catechism of the Catholic Church was "a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion and a sure norm for teaching the faith", and stressed that it "is not intended to replace the local catechisms duly approved by the ecclesiastical authorities, the diocesan Bishops and the Episcopal Conferences".

Contents
A catechism has been defined as "a summary of principles, often in question-and-answer format". Documents of religious instruction have been written since the beginning of Christianity and the catechism is typically an assemblage of these smaller documents into one large compilation of Church doctrine and teachings.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church, for which the usual English-language abbreviation is CCC, is instead a source on which to base such catechisms (e.g. Youcat and the United States Catholic Catechism for Adults) and other expositions of Catholic doctrine, called a "major catechism." It was given, as stated in the Apostolic Constitution Fidei depositum, with which its publication was ordered, "that it may be a sure and authentic reference text for teaching Catholic doctrine and particularly for preparing local catechisms." The CCC is in fact not in question and answer format.

CCC is arranged in four principal parts:

The Profession of Faith (the Apostle's Creed)
The Celebration of the Christian Mystery (the Sacred Liturgy, especially the sacraments)
Life in Christ (including The Ten Commandments in Roman Catholic theology)
Christian Prayer (including The Lord's Prayer)


This scheme is often referred to as the “Four Pillars” of the Faith. The contents are abundantly footnoted with references to sources of the teaching, in particular the Scriptures, the Church Fathers, and the Ecumenical Councils and other authoritative Catholic statements, principally those issued by recent popes.

The section on Scripture in the CCC (nos. 101–141) recovers the Patristic tradition of "spiritual exegesis" as further developed through the scholastic doctrine of the "four senses." This return to spiritual exegesis is based on the Second Vatican Council's 1965 "Dei Verbum: Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation", which taught that Scripture should be "read and interpreted in light of the same Spirit by whom it was written" (Dei Verbum 12). The CCC amplifies Dei Verbum by specifying that the necessary spiritual interpretation should be sought through the four senses of Scripture (nos. 111, 113, 115–119),[18] which encompass the literal sense and the three spiritual senses (allegorical, moral, and anagogical).

The literal sense (no. 116) pertains to the meaning of the words themselves, including any figurative meanings. The spiritual senses (no. 117) pertain to the significance of the things (persons, places, objects or events) denoted by the words. Of the three spiritual senses, the allegorical sense is foundational. It relates persons, events, and institutions of earlier covenants to those of later covenants, and especially to the New Covenant. Building on the allegorical sense, the moral sense instructs in regard to action, and the anagogical sense points to man's final destiny. The teaching of the CCC on Scripture has encouraged the recent pursuit of covenantal theology, an approach that employs the four senses to structure salvation history via the biblical covenants.

Comments
American Catholic bishops have stated that, though theological opinion was not intended to be a part of CCC, it in fact "does not distinguish between matters of faith and theological opinion."

In 1992, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later Pope Benedict XVI) noted:

It clearly show[s] that the problem of what we must do as human beings, of how we should live our lives so that we and the world may become just, is the essential problem of our day, and basically of all ages. After the fall of ideologies, the problem of man—the moral problem—is presented to today's context in a totally new way: What should we do? How does life become just? What can give us and the whole world a future which is worth living? Since the catechism treats these questions, it is a book which interests many people, far beyond purely theological or ecclesial circles.

Derived works
The Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church was published in 2005, and the first edition in English in 2006. It is a more concise and dialogic version of the CCC. The text of the Compendium is available in fourteen languages on the Vatican website, which also gives the text of the Catechism itself in nine languages.

YouCat, a catechism for youth, based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church and its Compendium, was published in 2011. The Vatican has acknowledged that some translations of YouCat contain errors regarding Church teaching on the status of other religions, contraception and euthanasia, whether due to simple error or poor translations.

Website proper: CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
khool
post Mar 20 2015, 12:08 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 20 2015, 11:03 AM)
LOL...shisha smoke is of no comparison.

user posted image
*
Bro Yeeck, the incense burned in the thurible is frankincense yes?
khool
post Mar 20 2015, 02:02 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 20 2015, 02:01 PM)
Normally it should be frankincense. Myrrh is also used sometimes, but the smell....let's say frankincense smells way better..lol.
*
Yes, it certainly does! biggrin.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
khool
post Mar 22 2015, 05:24 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 21 2015, 03:49 PM)
The process of Islamisation in Malaysia has long started. Don't really need someone from France to tell us that as it has also affected France by their easy immigration for those from the Middle East. When the Muslims are getting more in numbers, they will certainly demand more of their rights to do this and that, including changing the Constitution since they are in the majority. Catholics certainly has a role to play by not using contraception as taught by Pope Paul VI's Humanae Vitae and be more fervent in their Faith.
*
Quite right Bro Yeeck, Father OC Lim has been talking about this since forever. "Creeping Islamisation" has been ongoing since the early 80s. If not, earlier. Back then, few heeded. Now more and more already realized the wisdom of his warnings!

As far as contraceptives are concerned, the Church encourages the Billings Ovulation method. This is a far more effective method compared to chemical or physical based contraceptives.
khool
post Mar 23 2015, 05:23 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 22 2015, 10:41 PM)
No, the Church does not encourage any form of contraceptives be they natural or artificial. Only under very serious reasons are NFP tolerated.
*
NFP based on BOM is taught during CMPC, the only form of contraception allowed.

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/mar...amily-planning/

This post has been edited by khool: Mar 23 2015, 05:24 AM
khool
post Mar 23 2015, 11:42 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


Thanks bro, was also looking for that EWTN article ... lucky you managed to find it! biggrin.gif
khool
post Mar 23 2015, 02:15 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


Still, NFP is accepted. So no issue ... biggrin.gif
khool
post Mar 23 2015, 04:40 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


...

This post has been edited by khool: Mar 23 2015, 05:17 PM
khool
post Mar 26 2015, 01:52 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(pkh @ Mar 26 2015, 12:47 PM)
7 more days to Holy Week. Preparations aren't easy. Was doing cabling work until 2am yesterday. Anyway, there's a Youth Rally thingy in STM this Saturday after mass. Heard that Fr Gregory Chan is gonna be there. Something for the young people.
*
Fr. Gregory is a really vibrant and engaging priest. I always love to hear him speak! biggrin.gif

khool
post Mar 27 2015, 11:02 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 26 2015, 05:53 PM)
I've yet to meet or hear him but others who did have told me they were quite troubled with his gestures and mannerisms..lol.
*
Yes, he is quite expressive and a very passionate speaker. It must be due to his training as a lawyer before he joined the priesthood ... wink.gif

khool
post Mar 31 2015, 03:13 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 30 2015, 01:58 PM)
Does God really exist?

Since ancient times, Humanity has considered the problem of knowing whether a superior being exists.  Atheism answers in the negative, the different religions answer in the affirmative, which is it truly?

What do we notice in the reality which surrounds us?

With the help of our external senses, it is easy for us to note the existence of a universe composed of the most diverse things: mineral, vegetal, animal, etc.  Every science has an object specific to itself; astronomy studies the stars, botany studies the plants, zoology examines the animals, medicine tries to care for human beings, psychology seeks to explain mental phenomena, etc.  Thanks to each of these sciences, one can easily reach the conclusion that everywhere laws exist which govern the whole universe: a stone once thrown cannot but finally fall; a kind of plant gives naturally the same kind of flower.  Of course we do not know all these laws, the scholars and researchers spend all their strength and all their time to discover them.  The scientists however note that a certain number of things exist which, repeated regularly, normally produce such and such a result.  Everything has a precise place, a special function, an exact objective.  Take for example the case of the human body; the heart makes the blood circulate, the legs cause it to move, the eye allows it to see.  Without being a doctor, it is easy for us to establish that our body is an organised whole.  Nature offers a multitude of examples of the same sort, the entire universe is filled with examples of organisation and precision.  Everywhere one can find fine, delicate, complex mechanisms, and these concealed in the tiniest parts of plants, animals and human beings.

What is the origin of the order of the universe?

In looking at a car or a computer it would never occur to us that it was an ignorant person who had put them in working order.  Only men of the standard of Peugeot or Apple engineers could invent or manufacture such things.  Even the making of a dress requires the existence of a dressmaker, more or less well trained.

The story of Father Christmas, which one tells to children to explain to them why they receive presents on the 25th of December, cannot be of long duration.  A time will come when the small child will want to know where did such a thing come from, who made it, what rules did it follow, etc.  The entire universe from the planets to the insects, makes us put the same question:  where does it come from?  Who made it? Only a supreme intelligence could explain the order of the world.  Because the more a thing is complex the more it requires the existence of a qualified and capable inventor.  As the human being, on its own, could not concern the whole universe; he cannot even understand, at one go, the whole of its mechanisms.  From this flows the necessity of admitting the existence of a supreme intelligence to explain the order of the world.  Voltaire called it the great Watch-maker, Catholics call it God.

First Objection: Evolution and chance are sufficient to explain the order of the universe.

Reply: According to this opinion, life appears and perfects itself through an infinite number of favourable circumstances, thanks to a combination of blind forces, but which would coordinate and harmonize themselves to produce in the happiest way the precise movements of the planets or the beings which make up the world would, for example, be produced without a preconceived plan or order.  Now it seems paradoxical that chance should be explanatory when it is a sign of disorder: try to explain to a visitor in the Boeing factory that the aeroplanes are built by chance, without the well thought out and organised intervention of innumerable engineers and qualified workers!  It would be impossible; nobody would believe such a fairytale.  In one word, it would be order achieved through incoherence, contradiction installed everywhere.  Now, the universe is composed of mechanisms, all as precise as aeroplanes and this to a clearly greater scale.  Moreover, before the creating of the order of the universe, the most infinitesimal of the elements of which it is composed, has its own internal laws proper to itself and which could not exist without the prior intervention of an intelligent organiser: to produce a seed or an embryo is no less marvellous than to produce a tree or a human being.  The explanation attempted by evolution or chance is not even yet broached.

Second objection: Instead of admitting an intelligence outside of the universe, why not assume an in-dwelling intelligence, spread through all its parts, permitting it to construct itself and to direct itself all alone, and make its own way.

Reply: It is true that one can accept that the Divine Intelligence lives in the world in some sort of way by making it function, but It remains distinct from its work.  It would be in fact false to accept the existence of a divinity called "Life" which would be an integral part of the whole universe while at the same time having conceived it and ruling it.  The study of the natural mechanisms has not proven that human reason itself would be capable of controlling, in a well thought out way, the totality of the organisms of the human body themselves: the heart cannot take personal precaution against a heart attack nor the stomach against an ulcer.  The existence of a superior, distinct and exterior intelligence is therefore the only acceptable answer.



Third objection: You acknowledge an order in the Universe, but does it really exist when one sees so many biological monsters, cataclysms and misfortunes?

Reply: These evils simply indicate the limitations of an order which is, none the less, real and which must be explained, because one cannot speak of disorders except by reference to an order.  For example, a person is sick only in relation to the normal state which is health; shadows in a picture are only such in relation to the zones of light.  The failing, illness and death are no snags in the laws of nature but, on the contrary, the regular functioning of these laws.  A living being does not survive except by feeding itself i.e. by dissolving certain substances in order to incorporate them into itself; it destroys incessantly so as to build; that is its nature, its order, its law.  To try to imagine an animal which lives without eating away some plant or without killing one of its kind is an idle fancy.  This uninterrupted movement (cycle of assimilation and of disassimilation) is life itself.  To stop it would quite simply stop life in the world.

In short, the universe was not designed by its creator as an immobile dead system but like a group of forces always in conflict, the good emerging from the evil.  God could intervene miraculously to stop certain unfortunate effects but it would suspend the natural order by removing all activity and spontaneity: to save the grass from the tooth of the lamb is to favour the grass at the expense of the lamb.  Every change has thus two forces, it is at the same time production and destruction, the advantage of one is the damage of the other.
 


Conclusion: Thus, these objections do not remove anything from the well formed thesis of an Intelligence organising the world.  Analysed apart from the current preconceived scientific opinions, one discovers immediately that they are filled with difficulties and contain contradictions.  Only one hypothesis can be developed with coherence and clarity: it is that which seeks the explanation of the universe above and beyond it, in a Supreme Spirit.  To adopt it makes us therefore true to logic and to reason.
*
Great presentation of real facts ... Fides et Ratio! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

khool
post Apr 8 2015, 11:30 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(Xhr0no @ Apr 6 2015, 09:32 PM)
This is what I received from WhatsApp. Don't know if it is real or not

New Appointments of Parish Priest:
Fr Lexon - cathedral
Fr Mitchel - assumption
Fr Albet - OLOG
Fr Clarence - Kkb
Fr William - st Anthony
Fr Frederick - Klang
Fr George Harison - S'remban
Fr Surain - Kajang
Fr Christhoper - Setapak
Fr Stan - Desa & selayang
Fr Gps - Sentul
Fr Mic Chua - Kepong
Fr Simon - Cdm
Fr David - Rawang
Fr Raymond Pereira - STM
Fr Paulino - St Anne, Pt Klang
Fr James G - Banting
Fr Patrick B - Kuantan
Fr Philip M - Tgganu
Fr Augustine Lee - Bentong
Fr. James - Banting
Fr. John - Cameron
Fr. Eugene - Mantin
Fr. Clarence - APC + KKB
Fr. Patrick Boudville - Kuantan
Fr. V A Michael - Mentakab
Fr Ferdinand OLF
*
Oooh ... Fr. Leonard Lexson is going to St. John's? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif ... not surprising though, he IS liturgical director anyways ... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

khool
post Apr 8 2015, 11:31 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 7 2015, 10:57 PM)
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dre...igious-liberty/

Persecution is coming soon for those who uphold the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ. "Go and sin no more" will be perverted into "go and sin somemore and you'll still be fine and dandy, Hell does not exists but is only a state of mind...".
*
Excellent article, and right now, it is very obvious ... Indianapolis has shown the true colours of the Liberal "Lib-tard" agenda!

This post has been edited by khool: Apr 8 2015, 11:33 AM
khool
post Apr 16 2015, 12:21 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(de1929 @ Apr 16 2015, 08:55 AM)
Bro, there are a lot of Catholics that are backsliding and GOD is using yeeck's influence to bring HIS people back. Give him space

Neither u nor me can bring those people back to catholic but yeeck can. At what matter in this end time is ... winning soul.

but these soul goes to catholic churches, not protestant church right ? of course...
according to catholic is winning soul
according to protestant is not winning soul.
catholic wrong for reason A,B,C,D, protestant is right for reasons A,B,C,D

for such A,B,C,D reasons... let me share you that GOD's way and GOD's thinking is not always same with de_luffy thinking biggrin.gif...

Since  you are protestant: do you know that Martin Luther is guilty for rebellion ? rebellion against church authority ?
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has rejected you as king."

Proverbs 17:11
An evil man seeks only rebellion, and a cruel messenger will be sent against him.

Romans 13:1 (NIV)
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

-- ah but christian saved by grace... typical protestant excuse ? or joseph prince teaching ?...

as i said earlier, and i will put here so to highlight you:
Neither u nor me can bring those people back to catholic but yeeck can. At what matter in this end time is ... winning soul.
*
de1929 ... if there are lapsed Catholics, then we are called instruct those who have fallen wayside, but it is not our duty to force nor coerce them to return. That is the job of the Holy Spirit, and remember things happen for a reason. The Lord calls all to His supper, but not all will attend. And He knows it. After all, the Hebrews themselves spent 40 years wondering in the desert.

As for the Proties ... leave them be, if they wanna hero worship Martin Luther, let them. They empowered themselves to do so, all 30,800 denominations.
khool
post Apr 16 2015, 12:23 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 16 2015, 10:36 AM)
Like I've said before I don't deny that there may have been bad popes and clergy in the past. Luther did protest about abuses regarding indulgences, but he went further and mixed other errors in his protest. Again, that article was about 'Sola Scriptura' (Bible Alone), not regarding Martin Luther himself personally. If you wish, we can now change the topic to focus on Martin Luther himself.
*
Bro Yeeck, come to think of it, who exactly are the bad popes? Any list? Only one i can think of is Alexander Borgias, thanks to the slanted Protie and Jewish media, but that's about it.
khool
post Apr 16 2015, 01:20 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 16 2015, 01:00 PM)
There are a few besides Alexander VI. Even Leo X during the time of Martin Luther wasn't exemplary either. However, his response to Luther's 95 theses, the Bull "Exsurge Domine" was spot on.
*
My thoughts precisely. The administration of the church was flawed and in great need of reform, but in no way was any of her doctrines flawed. Never in the history of the Church has any Pope sought to change doctrine or Sacred Tradition. Any Pope even thinking such notions has been summarily removed, post haste.
khool
post Apr 16 2015, 04:52 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(de1929 @ Apr 16 2015, 03:18 PM)
thx khool... i understand how they are thinking... we can appreciate their boldness to rebel against authority... sure, leave them be.

appreciate little2x ok lah... set it up as a value to live ? Big NO
*
Haha, if your answer is 'Yes', then you can't be a Catholic can you? ... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

khool
post Apr 17 2015, 07:25 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
225 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 17 2015, 12:46 AM)
tinarhian, if you have something against Catholic doctrine, present your arguments. It seems like you've already decided that all Catholics are self-righteous. I'm still interested to know what's your meat against Catholic doctrine instead of just making a blanket statement.

I never claimed all Protestants hero-worship Martin Luther. You are still missing the gist of that earlier article. It was against the false teaching of 'Bible Alone'.  If I claimed that all Protestants hero-worship Luther, then....they ought to even imitate him in his fervent devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, unlike modern-day Protestants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther%27s_Marian_theology

As for de1929, it is pretty obvious from his posts that he couldn't be Catholic. Let's just leave it at that.
*
Point of note Bro Yeeck, it was I who made that claim that Proties hero worship Martin Luther. I cannot reproduce this claim as all this is verbal. So mea maxima culpa, and my apologies.


39 Pages < 1 2 3 4 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.1139sec    0.67    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 1st December 2025 - 09:54 PM