some condo, don't rmb which project d.
wah doom u wanna chap sei kai?

just wait SEH la. I bet u will have a lot sei kai one 

some condo, don't rmb which project d.
wah doom u wanna chap sei kai?

just wait SEH la. I bet u will have a lot sei kai one 

good point.
but still.. with the choices, it is buyer market now, plenty of choices.

flippers has to flip, they don't have holding power.
when all this unit comes out for auction or fire sales, just be ready to chap sei kai.

1998 & 2008 market crash also nobody sell below original price
wonder who able to chap sei kai within tis 20yrs

Don't forget internal staff get staff discount. Even if they sell at s&p price, this flippers would have gain some profit.

Like Robert says, all those group buy internals will try to sell within the first 6 months. If after 6 mths still no takers, they may even drop to almost s&p price.

One of my colleague actually sold at s&p price for her corner house at Kota Kemuning after holding for 5 years before the market picks up in 2010.

If this is in 2013, flippers can still make a handsome profit but looking at the current situation, tightening credits and escalating property price, unless you are in for 10% to 20% profit, it will be tough till all the flippers have unloaded their properties.

Correct me if I am wrong, phase 1 should have about 400 (or is it 700) houses VP by this next quarter, and I presume 30% are flippers, so you can imagine 120 houses will be up for sale. It may take a while for the market to absord the supply. No thanks to other competition and surrounding areas of going to VP or already VP.

If you look at setia alam, subsale price was pretty slow for the first 5 years. It is only now that there's a demand for SA due to its maturity. One of my colleague just paid subsale rm850k for a ds 22x75 at SA few month back and the owner paid abt rm400k when he bought from the developer.

Well, let hope there is less bank lelong sticker else Bear Bear Wong will come here and says "See I told you!!!"

By the way, the superlink which is going to be launched soon is gateless. Guess this will be good for those buyer who prefer big buildup without the hassle of maintaining a garden as compared to cluster or semi d. The security checkpoint will be before the lekas bridge connecting to this grandlis. It's the same checkpoint where it's shared with the link semi d and semi d.

Only fear is....if the bridge collapse, the owners all hailat . Stuck in a no man land.

As I said, there would be people who hated me for that, but that’s my honest view on this.
I would love Ecohill houses to go up to millions, but realistically that would only happen in years ahead.

Flippers? Prepare to die.

Btw, on different thing.
Someone was saying superlink’s water meter and rubbish bin is being placed facing porch rather than main road. I think this should be confirmed. If you check P2 photos, apparently they are being placed that way.

lol kam sia

i small ciku only.

Robert gor..at this moment..no member request wor..can submit ur request now?

Lu macam ini post Nanti Ada orang  tak Ada shiok lor 

If insist want to become jellyfish then just let it be loh..   

Bear-bear already kecut and seldom come to comment in Lyn anymore... After more than one year of BS, property still not crash yet...   

hello joker not sure, perhaps permanently banned by the MOD due to trolling in Lyn...   

No need to be so sour grapes.
I said I wanna chap sei kai to the flippers only. Why so offended?
Slow slow wait or not, I will indeed wait and chap when these flippers die.

Like I said before, for ownstay it is indeed great place, no worries at all.
For flippers, prepare to die if market take a downturn.

lol butthurt?
Go read back all comments, i wasn't shooting you (if you are flippers)
There's one flippers who came and ask for price out of nowhere, with so obvious intention to flip.

But unfortunately you butthurt.

Show off or not, no need worry.

Just like I mentioned before, like it or not,  the market now is not suitable for flippers. It is buyers market. Flip at your own peril and if shit happens, many will clap hand for your greediness.
Can’t accept honest yet negative comment then can ignore me.

ops, worried cannot flip and no buyer upon VP? no money to pay?

btw, you know sour grape means someone pretends to despise because he/she cannot possess something?

I already have one in SEH

I don't have to say something negative to bring down the price.
I have all interest to see it goes up till skyhigh so I can earn on paper.

But, in all honesty this market is slowing down.
Many will take a hit, and those with intention to flip, will burn.

Choices wise, there is so many out there, with the supply incoming.
Pricing wise, one can easily choose property in better location (minus concept) with almost similar pricing with the demanded price in subsales now.
Of course, if you need the concept and greenery, very few can provide.

If you cannot accept such honest view, which thinks it is downturn / slowdown for first few years, before booming.
And for flippers to die if their intention is to flip upon VP with no holding power, then I think you are indeed delusional.

Don't have to worry of me not having one and wanted to bring down price.
I have one and I am moving in.

Just that I despise flippers cause they deny a lot ppl housing.

Actually, perhaps we can try to analyze the sales condition of phase 1 units..

Almost all the phase 1 units (DSL, Cluster, SemiD) doesn't have discount on downpayment, purchasers need to pay at least RM 40k as the downpayment. If an investor can have 40k to pay the downpayment, logically I think he/she will have capability to hold and would not fire sale the property straight after VP.

There are some phase 1 buyers given some discount as well, as a compensation for non-DIBS scheme. The rate is not high, merely 3%, and majority of these units are more expensive in nature. This means they are paying close to RM 40k to lock the unit as well, hence I personally would believe they have holding power too.

At least 2/3 of the units are sold to these kind of purchasers, which I think they should have holding power and won't have fire sales.

Now the remaining 1/3 is sold to staffs and associates... I am not sure about the exact ratio staff to associate, but i think it is reasonable to assume a figure 50:50...

Associates only being given 2% discount (if not mistaken), means they would need to put in at least close to RM 40k for the units as well, hence generally I think they would have the holding capability too..

The remaining 50% of the 1/3 (or ~ 15% as a whole) would be staffs they able to get the high discount (5 - 10%). This is the group I presume would have the highest risk to have fire sales and perhaps the so called "sei gei" would arise. Nevertheless, they are staffs, means they are working in SP Setia, could it be so desperate for them to fire sales the unit till the SPA price? These group of people I foresee will be hunting the units with lowest entry cost (due to their low financial background) which only able to earn about 40k - 50k gross, even they have been given with 10% discount. Would they be so desperate? Let's wait and see..  

As a conclusion, for Setia Ecohill phase 1 units, to have the "sei gei" units for sure is possible, but the amount would be small and I personally believe it would be very unlikely to occur as well. Therefore, if you really can get a "sei gai" unit during the VP, I would need to congratulate you, coz I strongly believe you must go through a "very strong competition" to get this "sei gai" units...   

Nothing is impossible though, let's wait and see. No need to wait long, the coming 6 months will reveal the actual scenario...