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TSCommonPeople
post Feb 12 2015, 04:57 PM, updated 11y ago

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Greetings people !

Well , as you can see , i am trying to figure it out on how to sustain a Law Firm ?

In two years time , my wife's dad will be handing over his medium size Law firm to my wife.

The thing is , my wife is just an ordinary lawyer without any business orientate. So it leaves to me to handle the business. With my 6 years experience of Sales and marketing , can i succeed this ? I am in hospitality industry right now and basically its almost the same thing which is we sells services to customers.

I asked her on how did you father managed to find his clients ? She said the dad just waited for the clients to come by at the office and deal.. Her dad is doing so-so right now. Average 1-2 cases a month sometimes none.

Anyway , i am still blur on how to boost the sales figure for the business. We have enough staffs to work but no enough clients/case to deal.

Her parents are putting a big hope to me to handle the business since we are the first born child for both families and my wife has 4 younger siblings to take care of later.

The main question now is can i apply the same method on S/M for a Law firm ?

What strategy should i use ?rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by CommonPeople: Feb 12 2015, 05:02 PM
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:05 PM

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1) is there are specialty for the law firm e.g. criminal, housing loan etc etc etc
2) try to get a partner who is more famous to help bring in more clients
3) copy "better call saul" tongue.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:13 PM

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1) Make contacts with Housing Developers to handle the SPA work, etc

2) Make contacts with Banks to handle the Loan Agreement, etc

But wait, do you have Bumi Partner cos its requirement to be Panel on Bank


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post Feb 12 2015, 05:14 PM

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If the law firm do SPA and loan legal documents:
1) Get as much banker contact as u can
2) Become panel for bank
3) Ties up with developer for project
4) Provide competitive pricing and service so your customer will become returning customer

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post Feb 12 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(lawsh @ Feb 12 2015, 05:05 PM)
1) is there are specialty for the law firm e.g. criminal, housing loan etc etc etc
2) try to get a partner who is more famous to help bring in more clients
3) copy "better call saul" tongue.gif
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Hi bro ,

Current focused are conveyancing and frauds. My wife's plan is to focus on accidents and islamic banking.

As for me , i am planning to aim more on Animal Rights and Consumer Rights.

Are they the right cause bro ?

For second point , i have been thinking of that but does terms 'Partners' same as 'BOD's' ?
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:29 PM)
Hi bro ,

Current focused are  conveyancing and frauds. My wife's plan is to focus on accidents and islamic banking.

As for me , i am planning to aim more on Animal Rights and Consumer Rights.

Are they the right cause bro ?

For second point , i have been thinking of that but does terms 'Partners' same as 'BOD's' ?
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Animal Rights - What are you talking about bro. Must be practical. You wanna help Animal Lovers to sue ppl? MY and out Govt in general are not animal friendly

Consumer Rights - Tak Boleh Cari Makan. Already got Consumer Claims Tribunal. Won't work bro

Accident - Be Ambulance Chaser - also won't work in MY

Islamic Banking - May work but its confined to Big Firms like Wong & Partners, Allen & Gledhill , etc - you will not be able to compete plus do you have BUMI partner with the connections


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post Feb 12 2015, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 12 2015, 05:13 PM)
1) Make contacts with Housing Developers to handle the SPA work, etc

2) Make contacts with Banks to handle the Loan Agreement, etc

But wait, do you have Bumi Partner cos its requirement to be Panel on Bank
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Thanks for the tips bro.

Can i alliance myself with the government ? Like , be a panel for PDRM ? i have a lot of contacts for PDRM and KDN..

Newbie in business here. Sorry yea
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:35 PM)
Thanks for the tips bro.

Can i alliance myself with the government ?  Like , be a panel for PDRM ? i have a lot of contacts for PDRM and KDN..

Newbie in business here. Sorry yea
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what do you mean by panel for PDRM

You mean to handle potential cases of ppl suing the Insurance Company for more compensation

This is possible - but involves some element of corruption cos you need the Inspector / Sargent to recommend your firm

You need to pay the Sargent immediately buy you only get paid after you win the case

Could take month / years


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post Feb 12 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 12 2015, 05:34 PM)
Animal Rights - What are you talking about bro. Must be practical. You wanna help Animal Lovers to sue ppl?  MY and out Govt in general are not animal friendly

Consumer Rights - Tak Boleh Cari Makan. Already got Consumer Claims Tribunal. Won't work bro

Accident - Be Ambulance Chaser - also won't work in MY

Islamic Banking - May work but its confined to Big Firms like Wong & Partners, Allen & Gledhill , etc - you will not be able to compete plus do you have BUMI partner with the connections
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Thanks for the replies bro.

As for Animal rights , i am looking for free publicity actually. You know.. Lots of animal lovers out there , jadi hero for them and become famous. Even it wont make much profit but at least the name of firm will be recognized. Just my plan thou..

We are bumis .. does that make any difference bro ? bumis or non ?

Also , since you just potong all my ideas..Any recommendation ?
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 12 2015, 05:40 PM)
what do you mean by panel for PDRM

You mean to handle potential cases of ppl suing the Insurance Company for more compensation

This is possible - but involves some element of corruption cos you need the Inspector / Sargent to recommend your firm

You need to pay the Sargent immediately buy you only get paid after you win the case

Could take month / years
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Corruptions..i hate that shit. Is there any legal way approach them ?
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:41 PM)
Thanks for the replies bro.

As for Animal rights , i am looking for free publicity actually. You know.. Lots of animal lovers out there , jadi hero for them and become famous. Even it wont make much profit but at least the name of firm will be recognized. Just my plan thou..

We are bumis .. does that make any difference bro ? bumis or non ?

Also , since you just potong all my ideas..Any recommendation ?
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Hey bro, don't get me wrong. Am not potong your ideas

If I did not care, I won't bother to reply

To be on panel for Bank, some Banks requirement is to have 30% Bumi Partner - in compliance with NEP

If you're a Bumi Firm - it certainly helps

Its good if you have a Game Plan - Do CSR in form of Animal Rights to get contacts, etc

With Consume Claims Tribunal - don't need Lawyers to sue Retailers, etc

Not many people can afford Lawyers and besides, in a Civil suit, enforceability is always an issue. You can ask your wife, how to collect a Debt of RM10K when Bankruptcy is at RM30K

Your idea on Islamic Banking is good, but like I said, currently dominated by Bigger Law Firms

You can organise free seminars and invite Bankers to attend to generate publicity


QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:44 PM)
Corruptions..i hate that shit. Is there any legal way approach them ?
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Unless you sit there all day long. Not really corruption - just call it incentive. Many Lawyers are already doing that now.

QUOTE(aromachong @ Feb 12 2015, 05:44 PM)
i suggest criminal .. one case 320 penal code case get you earn rm100-rm200k easily.

or fight for bankrupty case.. others all not-so-good
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How much do you need to share the RM200K with other parties such as ****, *****, etc

Censored to avoid me being charged with sedition

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post Feb 12 2015, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:41 PM)
Thanks for the replies bro.

As for Animal rights , i am looking for free publicity actually. You know.. Lots of animal lovers out there , jadi hero for them and become famous. Even it wont make much profit but at least the name of firm will be recognized. Just my plan thou..

We are bumis .. does that make any difference bro ? bumis or non ?

Also , since you just potong all my ideas..Any recommendation ?
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Start a website, you don't need animals for publicity. If you need an area of focus. HR and company law is best. Lots of employers suing employees, and lots of disgruntled employees suing employers. Lots of employers who default on salaries, or fire unethically.

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post Feb 12 2015, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(sarahdee @ Feb 12 2015, 05:48 PM)
Start a website, you don't need animals for publicity. If you need an area of focus. HR and company law is best. Lots of employers suing employees, and lots of disgruntled employees suing employers. Lots of employers who default on salaries, or fire unethically.
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but its cheaper for employees to just to to the file a case in Ministry of Labour / Industrial Court

Don't really need a Lawyer right?
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post Feb 12 2015, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 12 2015, 05:51 PM)
but its cheaper for employees to just to to the file a case in Ministry of Labour / Industrial Court

Don't really need a Lawyer right?
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Depends on the amount and who's employing you. Also A lawyer can represent you at Industrial Court. Most people I know get Lawyers to represent them.. it's only at the mediation meeting you have to go yourself. Companies always get lawyers to act on their behalf in case of foot in mouth disease.
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post Feb 12 2015, 06:08 PM

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Much appreciated with the replies guys. Seriously you guys put faith in humanity.. You know la people now days dont really bother to help others.. Anyway i got to go right now since my works ends at 6pm. Will continue this interesting conversation tomorrow Around 10am-11am. Heck , who knows we can meet up and i belanja Makan in return teach me more about this ? hehe.. anyway thanks again. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 12 2015, 06:34 PM)
Animal Rights - What are you talking about bro. Must be practical. You wanna help Animal Lovers to sue ppl?  MY and out Govt in general are not animal friendly

Consumer Rights - Tak Boleh Cari Makan. Already got Consumer Claims Tribunal. Won't work bro

Accident - Be Ambulance Chaser - also won't work in MY

Islamic Banking - May work but its confined to Big Firms like Wong & Partners, Allen & Gledhill , etc - you will not be able to compete plus do you have BUMI partner with the connections
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What is Islamic banking? What are lawyers suppose to do?
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post Feb 12 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 04:57 PM)
Greetings people !

Well , as you can see , i am trying to figure it out on how to sustain a Law Firm ?

In two years time , my wife's dad will be handing over his medium size Law firm to my wife.

The thing is , my wife is just an ordinary lawyer without any business orientate. So it leaves to me to handle the business. With my 6 years experience of Sales and marketing , can i succeed this ? I am in hospitality industry right now and basically its almost the same thing which is we sells services to customers.

I asked her on how did you father managed to find his clients ? She said the dad just waited for the clients to come by at the office and deal.. Her dad is doing so-so right now. Average 1-2 cases a month sometimes none.

Anyway , i am still blur on how to boost the sales figure for the business. We have enough staffs to work but no enough clients/case to deal.

Her parents are putting a big hope to me to handle the business since we are the first born child for both families and my wife has 4 younger siblings to take care of later.

The main question now is can i apply the same method on S/M for a Law firm ?

What strategy should i use ?rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:29 PM)
Hi bro ,

Current focused are  conveyancing and frauds. My wife's plan is to focus on accidents and islamic banking.

As for me , i am planning to aim more on Animal Rights and Consumer Rights.

Are they the right cause bro ?

For second point , i have been thinking of that but does terms 'Partners' same as 'BOD's' ?
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It all boiled down to your connections. Word of mouth/networking etc.

Getting listed as the banks legal panel could be another option.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 12 2015, 09:59 PM)
What is Islamic banking?  What are lawyers suppose to do?
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Islamic banking is about structuring a banking product so that it complied with Shariah principles.

Lawyers will need to structure the product, in addition to drafting of legal documents.

It's not as simple as it looks when you have to zoom in on specific terms, etc.
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Feb 12 2015, 05:35 PM)
Thanks for the tips bro.

Can i alliance myself with the government ?  Like , be a panel for PDRM ? i have a lot of contacts for PDRM and KDN..

Newbie in business here. Sorry yea
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