1) Make contacts with Housing Developers to handle the SPA work, etc

2) Make contacts with Banks to handle the Loan Agreement, etc

But wait, do you have Bumi Partner cos its requirement to be Panel on Bank

Animal Rights - What are you talking about bro. Must be practical. You wanna help Animal Lovers to sue ppl? MY and out Govt in general are not animal friendly

Consumer Rights - Tak Boleh Cari Makan. Already got Consumer Claims Tribunal. Won't work bro

Accident - Be Ambulance Chaser - also won't work in MY

Islamic Banking - May work but its confined to Big Firms like Wong & Partners, Allen & Gledhill , etc - you will not be able to compete plus do you have BUMI partner with the connections

what do you mean by panel for PDRM

You mean to handle potential cases of ppl suing the Insurance Company for more compensation

This is possible - but involves some element of corruption cos you need the Inspector / Sargent to recommend your firm

You need to pay the Sargent immediately buy you only get paid after you win the case

Could take month / years

Hey bro, don't get me wrong. Am not potong your ideas

If I did not care, I won't bother to reply

To be on panel for Bank, some Banks requirement is to have 30% Bumi Partner - in compliance with NEP

If you're a Bumi Firm - it certainly helps

Its good if you have a Game Plan - Do CSR in form of Animal Rights to get contacts, etc

With Consume Claims Tribunal - don't need Lawyers to sue Retailers, etc

Not many people can afford Lawyers and besides, in a Civil suit, enforceability is always an issue. You can ask your wife, how to collect a Debt of RM10K when Bankruptcy is at RM30K

Your idea on Islamic Banking is good, but like I said, currently dominated by Bigger Law Firms

You can organise free seminars and invite Bankers to attend to generate publicity


Unless you sit there all day long. Not really corruption - just call it incentive. Many Lawyers are already doing that now.

How much do you need to share the RM200K with other parties such as ****, *****, etc

Censored to avoid me being charged with sedition

This post has been edited by cfa28: Feb 12 2015, 05:52 PM

but its cheaper for employees to just to to the file a case in Ministry of Labour / Industrial Court

Don't really need a Lawyer right?

Islamic banking is about structuring a banking product so that it complied with Shariah principles.

Lawyers will need to structure the product, in addition to drafting of legal documents.

It's not as simple as it looks when you have to zoom in on specific terms, etc.

Now, when I say Islamic Banking, I am referring to more than just being the panel lawyer for the Islamic Housing Loans.

That one almost any Lawyer firm can do.

When I am talking about Islamic Banking, I am referring to Lawyers who are capable of coming out with new structures for Financing Products and in order to do this, you need resources like how places like Dubai, UAE, London, what sort of Islamic Products are being offered there.

Smaller firms will have not have resources.

When a lawyer says that he / she specializes in tax, do you expect the lawyer to do just normal CKHT submission or do you expect the lawyer to be able to advice on how to structure the transaction to minimize the tax exposure. If the lawyer cannot do the later, he / she should not claim to be a tax lawyer.

The same goes for Islamic Banking, what does the lay man or general public expect this lawyer to do if the lawyer claims to specialise in Islamic Banking?

is is just normal Islamic Loans, conveyancing work, etc. If this is the case, it's just any normal lawyer can do. if someone wants to claim to be a specialist, one must be know more than other normal non specialist.

Anyway, I have given my views and I am not a Lawyer although my firms uses many Lawyers. I have met a number of Lawyers who claim to be specialist in

a) Tax
b) Insurance
c) Fund Raising
d) Conventional Banking
e) Fraud and due diligence

But not many Lawyers claim to specialise in Islamic Banking.

You don't have to agree with my interpretation of what a specialist is but please do ensure you have the necessary skills to call yourself "specialising in...." whatever field.


This post has been edited by cfa28: Feb 14 2015, 03:12 PM

Good that there is another experience lawyer in lowyat that I can summon next time.

Your expertise exceeds the normal conveyancing work.

Some of the experience was gained while working for bigger law firms.

No doubt you have your own practice but still the experience, knowledge and contact was gained from past bigger firms right?

TS wife father law firm appears to be the smaller standard conveyancing type.

Perhaps you can guide him where his wife can get the knowledge to specialise in areas such as Islamic Banking, etc.

This post has been edited by cfa28: Feb 15 2015, 12:42 AM

Was re-reading TS info on his FIL Law Firm again

TS, perhaps you can list out:

a) what sort of clients does your FIL do at the moment
b) How many qualified LA does his firm have
c) How many "legal clerks" does his firm have
d) Where exactly is his firm located

Since chastise is also a practising Lawyer, perhaps he/she can give you more insights

Okay, you mean your FIL has 3-offices, one each in ipoh , taiping and kuala kangsar

So, when you mean 3 qualified Lawyers, this is for each office or combined offices.

Same goes for staff

How long as the qualified Lawyers been employed

Any risk that they don't like the new boss - your wife and leave with some clients and clerks?

Tak balik kampung cos orang KL

You must know that it is very HARD to actually sack someone in MY - especially since you are dealing with people who are conversant with Law.

You plus your wife really need to sit down with your FIL

Running any biz today is not the same as 20-years ago. Landscape, competition is very different.

You're from the F&B Line right, perhaps your wife can offer Legal Services to them such as

- Tenancy Agreement - with Landlord
- Contract Agreements - with suppliers
- HR Contracts - with staff

sorry, quite close lah

Use your contacts to get the Hotel contracts Legal Work

Not e-mails but visits with pitches and portfolios - YES

Big Legal Firms do that for Big Clients / Existing Clients - Talk about Firm Background, expertise, past portfolio etc

But not to sound too desperate lah

Pitch to Group Legal of the respective Firms,and also marketing departments like say Corporate Banking, Investment Banking, etc

Good way to create awarness is to offer "Free Legal Seminars" for prospective clients

Say - "Dispute and Arbitration process for Human Resources Department"

"Tenancy vs Lease - Pros and Cons" for Property Department / Legal Dept of the Hotel

Big Law Firms also do very Nice CV for their Partners / Lawyers

http://www.zicolaw.com/profile/david-lee-kim-meng/

http://www.lh-ag.com/s-saravana-kumar/

http://www.logan.com.my/html/people.html



This post has been edited by cfa28: Feb 18 2015, 12:13 PM