But what if the asker has already accepted the job and just want to know a little bit about his future workplace? I get that asking about money is uncalled for, especially in this o&g climate. But I don't see where asking about work environment counts as being tak bersyukur... Not trying to defend anyone, just an honest question

Well assuming he has already accepted the job, what difference does it make as he is gonna start the job anyway? A few unfavored opinions on the internet are gonna make him bail out?

what post exact offer you? proposal ? instrument?

If PETRONAS said to "consider" permanent basis verbally, I suggest you join Exact Automation.

Sekadar luahan dari saya yang ex-PETRONAS kuli.

You're too soft. Lanyak kuat sikit.

I'm getting fed up reading youngsters' postings in here asking "the work environment" in O&G companies; I felt even nak muntah when an engineering student asks the same question for internship. Like the world owe them something big laaa to be wanting them to intern with them.
Grrrrrrtrr..

Haha...okay, roughly feel you when you say kuli. Haha..I'm curious cause just join for 2months and have another offer.that's y.anyway appreciate bro

Maybe he just wants to know more about his workplace before he sees it for himself? Stuff like what to expect or what to not expect. At least I know that I will ask stuff about my workplace before I start working. You can never be too prepared, I guess.

I've got an internship interview with a company called Roxar, and they want me to make a presentation on "dynamic modelling". I'm doing Petroleum Engineering at uni but I am only recently acquainted with reservoir modelling and simulation (this sem only taking the subject). How much do you think they're expecting me to know as a 3rd year student? I feel nervous about looking really dumb lol

Roxar is goodinggggg place for an intership. Seriously.

Pendapat general saya, lets assume you are about to enter a jungle and to explore pengalaman yang seram dan ngeri tapi bermanfaat untuk survival.

Ya aku dulu pun pernah jugak bertanya at previous thread lampau pasal working environment, tapi bila fikir balik, semua sama jer. Its about how well you play office politic actually. Aku jenis tak ada masa nak layan politic crap. I just want to do my job and get paid at the end of month.

Company tak pernah ada masalah. Environment pekerjaan tak best disebabkan perangai manusia kepala bana berdrama atas tiket office politic.

So, janganlah kita menjadi kepala bana dan tak perlu menggelabah biawak. Cool jer 

Maybe he just wants to know more about his workplace before he sees it for himself? Stuff like what to expect or what to not expect. At least I know that I will ask stuff about my workplace before I start working. You can never be too prepared, I guess.

Two month? Okay aku tarik balik statement aku. Better kau stay dahulu sekejap kat Petronas. Tolong buat networking.

But what if the asker has already accepted the job and just want to know a little bit about his future workplace? I get that asking about money is uncalled for, especially in this o&g climate. But I don't see where asking about work environment counts as being tak bersyukur... Not trying to defend anyone, just an honest question

Well assuming he has already accepted the job, what difference does it make as he is gonna start the job anyway? A few unfavored opinions on the internet are gonna make him bail out?

yang atas jawapan dia yang bawah.
kahkahkah. if you really want to know the so called "work environment" you newbies should use a different word/phrasing. as said by many, kalau satu tempat kerja tuh described as villainous and tormenting as hell what you wanna decide??

dalam ramai2 kena layoff ni, syukur la maseh ada org ambil kerja, dalam ramai2 x mahu hire and yg dah berpengalaman pon dok gelabah and fikir pasal day to day work, career advancement, dll syukur la ada gak maseh nak ambil orang2 baru.

if ikutkan hati mau ja quit current tembok besar cina job, tapi jauh dalam hati harap ada la jugak guna bekalan exp sekejemput ni nanti down the years.

just out of curiosity, kalau intern without pay is a big deal??back then when i did mine, apa pon tarak i dapat cept some exp and a final grade of my internship which was "pass" 

HR Professionals Discuss Hiring Strategies during Downturn
Rigzone Staff 4/3/2015
URL: http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/1379...during_Downturn
HR Professionals Discuss Hiring Strategies during Downturn


Several human resources (HR) and industry professionals shared insight and offered strategies on how to manage personnel during a turbulent world in oil and gas during Workforce NEXT’s Spring Summit Thursday. During one session focusing on working together as a leadership team from human resources, operational and businesses perspectives, speakers possessed more than 100 years of HR experience.

The dominant focus of the summit was on HR professionals and how they can not only survive the downturn, but snatch up top talent during the downturn. Presenters were in agreement that workforce reductions were expected to continue. But rather than focusing on the challenging aspects of the downturn on an HR level, Luis Jimenez, who possess extensive experience in the development and execution of human resources solutions, told the audience that employers should view the downturn as an opportunity to better align with management and operations.

Job cuts is a sensitive subject, especially among those individuals who have been the victims of recent layoffs. It’s also difficult for the companies tasked with determining whom to let go. The approach varies from company to company, but it’s always strategic.

“It’s a tough call – how to determine who stays and who goes,” said Marty Kunz, vice president of human resources for C&J Energy. “First, you look at your high performers and then you look at your strategic performers; not only the employees who do their jobs, but those who bring other skillsets to the table.”

People who wear multiple hats are more attractive to keep. Kunz offered an example that happened within his own staff.

“The first folks to get hit during a downturn in an HR department are recruiters,” he said.

Kunz had a female recruiter who he identified was not the best at her job, but she was extremely skilled in an HR software that was essential to the future of the company. For that reason, she was able to keep her job.


“It’s not always about traditional skills or who’s been there the longest,” Kunz said. “Sometimes, it’s about what they can bring to the table.”

Some key takeaways from the summit, which featured discussions on topics including the industry outlook, talent and leadership development, talent acquisition and organizational development, were:

The prevalence of “upskilling” – teaching employees additional skills to develop a highly-skilled staff
A shift in candidates moving from passive to active and more responsive
A need for soft skills in the industry
Recruiters being tasked on finding the “right fit” for an organization from the candidate pool
The need for continual training of new employees
“The war for talent is not over,” said Brett Kummer, global recruitment functional lead for Fluor. “It’s changing.”

That seemed to be the consensus.

And HR professionals across all sectors of the energy industry are adjusting existing strategies and implementing new strategies to keep their organizations staffed with highly skilled employees.

Hmm..ya,thanks for the sharing. Indeed i believe no matter in what field is about your establish network and how others see you as your value/attitude. Honestly felt like company Pxtxxxxs working style like relax and manja shj.ain't sure is it just my department or because of semi -government

Bro, I can't agree more with you ! In fact, I believe that most of the people who asking the work environment wish to know more about their job/task and to get more prepared before entering the industry. As in my case, I did asking the working environment , as an intern , I did not had any relevant job experience regarding oil and gas field, am i wrong because of lack of experience ? Am I wrong due to my eagerness to get more information about the work environment since I am a fresh man in this field ?

  I may understand why some experienced people/senior get frustrated whenever someone asking the work environment. But i would like to remind that not everyone is picky and tend to take an smooth path. Like me, I had already accept the offer, that means I have already decided headed toward the industry, but I keen to know more about the real situation in the respective industry.

  However, I believe that the "sifu"/senior who dislike this question have their reason too...

You cannot generalize Petronas like that. You want to work in a real O&G environment? Jangan pilih KLCC. Try pergi live plant environment like PPTSB, PPMSB, MLNG, PFK, ABF, EPEMSB, PETLIN, MTBE dan pelbagai. Tengok kau survive ke tak.