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Traders Kopitiam! V7
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SUSPink Spider
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Mar 13 2015, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:16 PM) ALAQAR cannot raise rent.. cause sudah sign 20 years tenancy agreement..  So if they earns lots and lots of money, the rent still stay the same. Why do you think they make a REIT from their building if not to secure their operating cost.  But still got contracted annual increase of rental...decent but of cos not as spectacular as IGBREIT and co lar
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gark
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Mar 13 2015, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 02:20 PM) But still got contracted annual increase of rental...decent but of cos not as spectacular as IGBREIT and co lar  Yeah Alaqar is a GOOD defensive REIT.. BUT.. it is still not related to healthcare, which is the main argument here. This post has been edited by gark: Mar 13 2015, 02:21 PM
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:16 PM) ALAQAR cannot raise rent.. cause sudah sign 20 years tenancy agreement..  So if they earns lots and lots of money, the rent still stay the same. Why do you think they make a REIT from their building if not to secure their operating cost.  Eh.. we are talking about risk.. the risk of default goes up and down depending on the sector and profitablility of the hospital (among other things.)
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:19 PM) Lol... 10 years.. so what would your earning be? Can beat FD? No but the point is, and still remains.. you won't actually lose money if you invest in blue chips This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:26 PM
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gark
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Mar 13 2015, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 02:21 PM) Eh.. we are talking about risk.. the risk of default goes up and down depending on the sector and profitablility of the hospital (among other things.) Yeah.. if you mean by defensive yes, if related no.. cause you don't get a share of the increased profits. if you want healthcare related.. gotta look for KPJ, Pharma, CCMBio, Hovid..etc.
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SUSPink Spider
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Mar 13 2015, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:21 PM) Yeah Alaqar is a GOOD defensive REIT.. BUT.. it is still not related to healthcare, which is the main argument here.  aiyoyo u made me wanna top up
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:23 PM) Yeah.. if you mean by defensive yes, if related no.. cause you don't get a share of the increased profits. Actually REITs have crap volume.. I've seen less than 100 lots so many times. And the price is not all that high either. There are so many days when the entire best price sell/buy queue was worth about 5K lol This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:29 PM
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Boon3
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Mar 13 2015, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 01:35 PM) This. Worst thing that can happen if you buy a blue chip at a bad price.. you don't get to beat FD. In this country blue chips can go on forever. So last nite you say there is no 'wrong' price. Now there is 'bad' price. Bad price and wrong price got what difference?
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:29 PM) So last nite you say there is no 'wrong' price. Now there is 'bad' price. Bad price and wrong price got what difference? Bad price = paid too much, you lose opportunity cost Good price = got a bargain, will make more money. Wrong price = there isn't one. This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:32 PM
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woonsc
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Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Mar 13 2015, 09:56 AM) woonsc you diam diam goreng pwroot a?  got any tp?
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Boon3
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Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 02:31 PM) Bad price = paid too much, you lose opportunity cost Good price = got a bargain, will make more money. Wrong price = there isn't one. LOL! Market needs more investors like you.
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM) LOL! Market needs more investors like you. So it does.. maybe there will be more liquidity then
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kueyteowlou
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Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 02:22 PM) No but the point is, and still remains.. you won't actually lose money if you invest in blue chips  you sure? Look at Skpetro, Armada .... There is no sure thing in the market .... just have a gut .... risk involved in all investment .... If you want long term steady stocks... I would prefer buy TMS ... LOL I am such a bad influence ... but market up 10pts or drop 50pts ... This company price still the same .... even Minetech the same ... lol  buy 10cents, sell 11cents... earn 10% lo ... xinghe also can ma ... asiabio now also cheap ... This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM
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Boon3
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Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 02:19 PM) Lol... 10 years.. so what would your earning be? Can beat FD?  I fell off the chair reading.....
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM) you sure? Look at Skpetro, Armada .... There is no sure thing in the market .... just have a gut .... risk involved in all investment .... If you want long term steady stocks... I would prefer buy TMS ... LOL I am such a bad influence ... but market up 10pts or drop 50pts ... This company price still the same .... even Minetech the same ... lol  buy 10cents, sell 11cents... earn 10% lo ... xinghe also can ma ... asiabio now also cheap ... Those aren't blue chips. Blue chips are like Maybank and Sunway.. and a lot of REITs (SUNREIT, IGBREIT). Take someone off the street and ask them "have you heard of this company" ? and then if a lot of people say "yes" then it's a blue chip This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 13 2015, 02:36 PM
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kueyteowlou
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Mar 13 2015, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM) So it does.. maybe there will be more liquidity then  wow .. you must be big big type of investor ....  can provide liquidity to the market .... guide me more pls
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Boon3
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Mar 13 2015, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 02:33 PM) So it does.. maybe there will be more liquidity then  Make sure you don't buy WRONG stock at WRONG price.
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kueyteowlou
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Mar 13 2015, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 13 2015, 02:35 PM) Those aren't blue chips. Blue chips are like Maybank and Sunway.. and a lot of REITs (SUNREIT, IGBREIT) i see.. CIMB consider as bluechip bo? Genting? lol .... I am just a small ciku la ... cannot buy expensive stocks... but penny stocks i can afford la .... lol http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-...y-stock-fortune
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wodenus
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Mar 13 2015, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:36 PM) Make sure you don't buy WRONG stock at WRONG price. True enough.. there are wrong counters.. but there are not wrong prices
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kueyteowlou
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Mar 13 2015, 02:39 PM
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