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yok70
post Oct 4 2017, 08:59 PM

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MReits have been in correction mode lately....the rate hike sentiment starts to take effect?
Bond market yield seems to start moving upwards, although still mildly....

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post Oct 5 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 5 2017, 09:47 AM)
Yup, some of their price corrected to a more reasonable valuation, typically like Axreit, CMMT.
While other like IGBreit, Sunreit hardly drop much.

I do not think the rate hike will go too far though, central banks around the world still quite dovish across.
Somemore the Fed balance sheet reduction is already be known will be at snail pace.
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a 0.5% hike for current 3% would be a 16% hike.
for a reit with 5.5% net yield, that required 3 years to neutralize this 16%.
worry on not easy to find reit that could grow income (igbreit has been the best in past few years), many have been even decreasing income. laugh.gif

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post Nov 1 2017, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 31 2017, 05:29 PM)
Not really.. as i visit their mall at least 2x a month.. if there are anything wrong with the mall, I would notice it straight away.

That is why previously I manage to buy at a great price and sold off when the yield get ridiculously low.. now at this price 5.2% is still too low.. sweat.gif
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forecast FY18 yield is 9.1 sen, which means net yield of 4.96%, which is still low. I'm expecting above 5.25% net yield for igbreit.... i'm waiting at 1.55... hmm.gif

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post Nov 1 2017, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 31 2017, 05:22 PM)
Bro,... don't you think if the price drops too much, there could have been a serious fundamental problem with IGBREIT already ? Wouldn't it be dangerous to enter then ?
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price drops too mild for me actually....so mild....need more blood biggrin.gif
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post Nov 1 2017, 04:51 PM

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ya, bond yield is moving upwards, now and near future.
So for reits, better look for those that have the potential to increase yield in near future.
i'm also looking at better 5.5% for FY18.

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post Nov 2 2017, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(summer_86 @ Nov 2 2017, 03:21 PM)
what happen to igbreit....1.63 already
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post Nov 4 2017, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 3 2017, 10:41 AM)
May be investors are buying the myth of malls are going to die across due to emerge of E-commerce.  bruce.gif

So smalls reits are under selling pressure.
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Alibaba and Amazon all begin to invest on physical malls, because the game must be played in both ways. Please want to touch the real thing, even if they end up buying online. So ya, good malls won't die, just the shops inside the mall change to those having connection with online retail platform. cool2.gif
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post Nov 8 2017, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Nov 8 2017, 10:35 AM)
What happens to pavreit. Keep on dropping...
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yield so low, dropping is reasonable.
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post Nov 17 2017, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 17 2017, 02:53 PM)
With Q3 GDP number grew at 6.2%, coupled with recent a more hawkish tone of BNM, the chance of BNM hiking OPR is there for next year.

Those highly geared may see increase in borrowing cost in the coming refinancing cycle.
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good for economy, bad for reits.
isn't that funny? laugh.gif

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post Nov 25 2017, 06:08 PM

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MReit sell down is still strong. Guess institution investors are selling....
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post Dec 3 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(demetry @ Dec 3 2017, 06:50 PM)
rugi?? at most u get diviidend the same as fd rate
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cannot avoid reit stock price i guess.
the only support for reit stock price is dividend yield. If the reit cannot increase its yield over years ahead, and our interest rate continues to climb up, then rugi is not impossible to happen. Although it seems impossible for malaysia's rate to climb back to that crazy 10% some decades ago, but a 4% is not impossible for future 4-6 years if economy works out fine. That case, our reit's yield must increase at least 30% to neutralize that rate hike, or else the reit stock price may drop 30% from here.

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post Dec 8 2017, 09:07 PM

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wow! really, mreit selling force is still strong! hmm.gif
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post Dec 8 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 8 2017, 05:19 PM)
The manager fee is paid in unit, hence it can give higher than EPS.
The 3Q distributed income is around 2.6 cents if not mistaken.
Around 5% net yield currently seems fair enough.
Can't ask for more, as among all the Mreit, this one is 99% chance of stable DPU with potential increment, aka little risk with non-renewal lease and little risk of reduced DPU.

Top up MQreit as well at 1.19.
Seem like there is "fire sale" in the afternoon session.
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you mean IGBreit regularly practice buyback for using them later to pay manager's fees? Or it just increase the unit size (that case, dilution will happen)?

lucky you to be able to catch it at the lowest 1.19. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 17 2017, 10:58 PM

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I'm still confused that how should we report regarding stock and reit (inclusive foreign stocks through local securities such as cimb's iTrade) transactions in our income tax submission form?

Many saying dividend already paid tax, and our country does not required to pay capital gain tax. But, shouldn't we report to income tax about them, so that if income tax department come to us to check our income (ie, if buying assets such as house and car etc), we can tell them we earn quite some money from stock and reit investment?

Please advice. Thanks!
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post Dec 19 2017, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 18 2017, 09:34 AM)
This is what the dividend voucher for.
Keep those voucher, as those are your proof of income.

Single Tier dividend and reit distribution (after witholding tax) is not taxable again.
There is no requirement nor a column to submit those non-taxable income/single tier dividend in the submission.
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Thanks!

So I do not need to worry at all regarding income from capital gain?
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post Dec 19 2017, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Dec 18 2017, 12:34 PM)

However, if LHDN ask the source of your income to buy the Reits and you unable to prove it is another story  brows.gif .
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How to calculate out the numbers for them if a big part comes from capital gain? It's crazy to keep track of all numbers and all transactions for future calculation cry.gif

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post Dec 20 2017, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 19 2017, 10:03 AM)
Capital gain is not taxable, but you need to keep your transaction record.

Best practice is keep all documents related, from dividend vouchers, to trade contract/statement etc.
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thanks for the advice.
that's a lot of papers to keep sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2017, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 20 2017, 01:26 PM)
My 7 years of transaction and dividend voucher file is almost 3 ring files thick.. crazy..

I wish BNM would reduce the time frame to maybe 3 years ok la..
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7 years?! wow....mountain thick! sweat.gif
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post Dec 22 2017, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 21 2017, 06:01 PM)
>6% is net yield somemore.
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people keep reading newspaper saying next year office rental will lower even at prime location, so many scare. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 29 2017, 08:31 PM

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