QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2019, 10:26 AM)
Oh hello there knight.
Some questions back at you.
Yes, that's probably the cornerstone of the stock market investment theory. Such a simple and technically sound theory but yet why so many fail. Yup. Why so many losers in the stock market, then?
Well IMO, there are so many variables where one can easily make deadly mistake. The definition of a 'good business' is one. How many dared to suggest that Genting Malaysia does not have a good business? With the projection of the theme park competition, how many would dare even question that Genting Malaysia is not a growing company? And yeah, based on the earlier 2 assumptions, one could have easily over paid for their investment in Genting Malaysia recently.
Not as simple as you suggest.
Judgement of what's a good company is always crucial. Understanding the company's growth is just as potential. Growth does not last forever. And when profits decline, no matter how good the company, the stock will still be hit and face a potentially drastic decline....
So your saying that as long as you hold the stock 'longer', the dividends which you received is secured safely in your hands. So how long is long? Decline in dividend payout has a negative impact on stocks. I remember, YTL Power, touted as one of the 'best' dividend stocks one could invested in, once announced it was skipping a dividend payout (can't remember exactly why) and the next instance, the stock declined rapidly. Or like Hektar case. Based on current price, the projected dividend payout is rather high. BUT the amount of dividend is declining each quarter. And so has the stock price. So collecting dividend is one thing but then if incidents like this happen, the stock price will be badly hit. Which means, you could get your dividend but then your stock price might tank much lower. So it's not a 100% fool proof as you suggest.
And what you do with the secured dividends is just as important issue. If one simply thrift away these so called secured dividend, then what's the point of the whole investment then? Yup, the smarter ones will keep it aside and await for another investment opportunity.

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Well, everyone have their way of thinking and their way of doing things. Some people treat the market as a betting place like 4D and toto. Some conservative people like you and me go for reits. That's the different. Ya yahh..you will highlight me the thing as above again but I think we should hit back and learn when we loose our money. I don't expect to earn all the way. But for my case, I never lost abit before in REITS. And I never once invested in REIT over 1year which is my mistakes in the past. I should have bought more. I'd done my study but not enough.
And yeah. Genting. That's a good chance for us to get some of their stock. We have to determine the value of our stock ourself. It's like I'm selling a BR icecream for RM10, some people think its cheap, some not.
Anyway, If I want a sure win, I think even if I fly over to the US and learn from Warran buffet also wont confirm will win. At least for the short term.
Well, I think are u an investor? a Trader? or a gambler?
I think it's a big differences. Nothing to argue about.
So let's back talk about REIT.
This post has been edited by knight: Sep 11 2019, 09:24 PM