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knight
post Apr 11 2020, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Apr 10 2020, 03:11 PM)
already hold it for a few years. Regret didn't sell when it was RM 2+ ....  sad.gif

there are other attractive stocks now, so want to get out of this and buy something else.
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You should sell it when it started to go downtrend. i did. But in fact i regretted also at first.
I have changed my strategy only collect when its low. when it go downtrend, I should not sell it. But now Covid pulak.

Unless the business is bad. As of now, u wont go wrong with SUNREIT, PAVREIT and IGBREIT. Just go there and sit for half day you can tell.
But now Covid so I think its hard. its cheap now but Im not buying until 3Q only decide.

Anyway, its still on the downtrend for most of them, It might/will still go lower I believe.

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post Apr 11 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Apr 10 2020, 05:45 PM)
Another 2 weeks, that is the best consideration but i dread it going to be much longer.  Even if it is lifted, restriction could still applies and sentiments for shopping leisure would be dampened for a short while.
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People are in fear. Yeah, we should. So even if lifted, people going there will be like cut half. Some small shop will close shop. Some will convert to online business. It will really take some times to recover.

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post May 24 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(xXwasabiXx @ May 24 2020, 09:10 AM)
how about MQREIT, any opinion on this? good discount, yes.
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If not mistaken mostly are office. Are renting offices doing good nowadays???
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post May 26 2020, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ May 24 2020, 04:27 PM)
I'd stay away from Office,
Singapore 80% employers is okay for employees to work from home.

For me now, I feel KIP and  Al Aqar is the safetest?
Then KLCC, Pav, IGB, Sunway..  laugh.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Sunway? they own hotels

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post May 26 2020, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 26 2020, 12:33 AM)
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/m..._uid=F8ClKV7TQA

Extra costs need to be borne by employers if the Office continues to be used as a working place rather than telecommute.

Hence, if Office rental is high, this will certainly push employers to encourage the WFH concept.
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Thats why office reits are not so attractive nowadays. Our city has overbuilt offices. Just which 1 are more preferred only.
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post May 31 2020, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 26 2020, 05:56 PM)
This is for certain,... My commercial units find it a bit hard to rent out too with time-gap in-between tenants getting longer and longer,... but SG's incoming new supply for 2021 and onwards have been reduced.

I suspect,... MY's per sqm of Office space is cheaper than SG's, after conversion,...
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This trigger me to think instead of Malaysian cross boarder everyday to Singapore, why they never thought of having their company in JB, and let Singaporeans come over to JB daily for work?
Rental Cheaper, everything is cheaper. Probably they don't need to pay Malaysian so much either. hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post May 31 2020, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ May 31 2020, 05:09 PM)
Tax?  tongue.gif  law? Corruption?
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Probably. But logically it make sense to move their business here. They dont even need to rent and able to buy their own buildings and lots of space. But i think its by law coz if everything goes to Malaysia, Singapore shipping business will be gone.
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QUOTE(LoTek @ May 31 2020, 06:09 PM)
Do compare the number of Singaporean companies headquartered in Malaysia compared with Malaysian companies headquartered in Singapore. Do also compare the container volume of Singapore compared to all ports in Malaysia combined.
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Well. Many HQ start to move into Malaysia since two years ago. Anyway, just say only la. but I think its mainly because of law and restriction.

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 31 2020, 06:42 PM)
Maruah bro

And ahem money
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Possible wor..
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(freshgraduate2020 @ Aug 3 2020, 12:04 PM)
Why IGB reit can rebound so well while Pavreit and Sunreit still at the low side?
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Midvalley still many people will go. Pavillion will be harder, Sunreit also have hotels.
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 4 2020, 04:12 PM)
Don't waste time. Sell away and invest others to coupe back.

I still got UOAREIT and TWREIT waiting to be sell away after ex date.
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drop alot very hard to cut lost 1. I would suggess if can just top up and keep for years to come. If got good stock then ok lah.
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post Aug 5 2020, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 4 2020, 11:07 PM)
I did think this before.

But check back their 5+yrs graph, it is down trend. Even in good yrs, still the share doesn't go up.

So top up will not leverage down but lost more.  sweat.gif

I learn that persist will not help and lost more in term of time.

In such a good time (take advantage of bad time) there is many stock in bargain price. Earn back from this stock is better wasting the time to wait the reit go up.
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Normally I would sell all when it start goes downtrend. if up trend wave I will slowly topup.

Things that goes up will come down. Things that come down not necessary will go up. Thats the very scary part. laugh.gif

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post Aug 7 2020, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 5 2020, 09:58 PM)
Here example of amfirst chart.

10yrs is eough to review back.

I don't see it will go up. At least 3yrs.

Do you think still can recover back ROE? Div?

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You see. Before this, there's alot of empty offices. After the Covid, companies will also try to reduce people working in office and let them work from home. This will be a new trend to have employee working at home and the best part is they can hire anyone across the region/world with this new trend.

Anyway, I think still will have to look at their Annual / Quarter report. How many occupancy? I wont go look at office now. The is more supply than demand now. For KLCC, later you also will see people moving out and move to TRX there. KLCC also will gradually drop its rental as well.

3years really hard to say.

Thats why sometimes still better sale when its downtrend.

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post Aug 7 2020, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 6 2020, 02:04 AM)
ytl looking very oversold. any takers? biggrin.gif
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Want buy, can buy abit but we dont know when covid ends. As of now YTLreit probably can do local business at a lost.
At the moment I think go for other stocks bah. IGB or Pavillion will be better than YTLreits right?

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post Aug 7 2020, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 7 2020, 12:13 PM)
If you buy earlier and stuck at this yrs, don't need see anymore. Comeback next yrs. Check everyday/month also no use if for long term. Go concentrate on others.

From my cal, cut the lost is better than stubborn persist wait the reit to recover. Have a better option to earn back from US stock with the remaining money.
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Absolutely agree what u said. If you know its going down further, Sell it and buy back later. Make a last stop lost rather than hoping.
Sometimes hoping is a big mistake even thought people say have to be patient. But I say, if we really wanted to buy, look at their business.
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post Sep 20 2020, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 17 2020, 01:04 AM)
very quiet nowadays this thread.
good time to enter when the time is bad?
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Well, still if have interest in reits, it maybe a good time to enter. Just be careful which you buy.
Personally I would not touch any that related to offices, and Hotels.
But sunreits I might still consider. Hehe.

IGBreits should be a good buy compare to Pavreits. Buy slowly.
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post Sep 20 2020, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 17 2020, 09:34 AM)
Why you want to waste your time and money in M reit when TG is flying?
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I have few friends who speaks like you and are those who fall hard.

Anyway, just to let you now Reits are different thing compare to stocks like TG.

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post Sep 20 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 20 2020, 10:15 AM)
Why they fall hard?

If you want div, why not bank stock? Div + share grow.

Property still take some time to grow back. And wonder office rent still got future.

I invest in reit for 10yrs. Recently sell 80% of it to reshuffle my portfolio and the lost reit. Put the money in stock and start to recover fast.
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Property is a risk. I sold all off during September last year. But slowly buy back but wont go for anything related to Hotel and Offices.

Bank is a good stock for dividend.
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post Dec 23 2020, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 21 2020, 04:22 PM)
Finally bought KLCC today @7.15.
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Why KLCC where later people will put their attention to TRX?
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 24 2020, 01:00 PM)
Dont think that will happen.

It's called KL City Centre (KLCC) not for nothing.

Klccs owns 100 acres of the most prime property in the country.  For me if want to buy property, that will be the place.

The problem is always the price. Historically, it's always been trading at 1.1-1.2 PB. Now it's below one.  Good time to get some.
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With oversupplies of office in KL + post pandemic, I think most office operator might lost alot of customer.
With the increase of empty offices, price will drop. Company will hunt for the best price in KL area. So basically this will affect the earnings for offices.


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