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post Sep 14 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 14 2017, 11:07 AM)
High what for those didn't see s-reits yield  tongue.gif
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Even compared to other M-reit.. still low..

My average Mreit holding is currently about 6%-6.5% (Not on cost, based on market price)

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post Sep 15 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 15 2017, 01:50 AM)
that would be....those low profile ones, with low profile assets....higher risk for unpredictable management. Still remember many years ago, many people here interested on Arreit for its very high yield. Later, its yield dropped unexpectedly for unaware clients moving out of its assets. And huge price dropped afterwards for many years. I didn't follow it since, so not sure how was it today.  laugh.gif
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Not all low profiles ones are bad.. there are gems out there too.. Areit.. is not my cup of tea.. all grade B/C properties.. dry.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 15 2017, 09:17 AM)
how about hektar? tempting....consider its RI should be about 15% dilution to earnings? So its last 4 quarters' DPU of 11.6 sen should become 9.86 sen. That means net yield of 6.93%. Taking a safety of margin of -8% rental reversion/AEI for 2018, that goes 6.37%.  hmm.gif
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There is a gap between the RI completion and purchase of the new property. This could be 2Q worth before the new purchase can contribute meaningfully.

During this time I would expect DPU per Q to fall to ~2c before recovering back to ~2.4c, after the new property contributes. So share prices will remain weak, for now.

Also note that the last 4c divvy after RI is for 5 months. SO the next divvy is likely ~0.8 (1 month +dilution). This could be a shocker for people who did not calculate properly. brows.gif

When people panic... innocent.gif

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post Sep 15 2017, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 15 2017, 09:38 AM)
Thanks for the details.

In addition to that, at this stage, I'm not confident on the performance of Subang Parade and Mahkota Parade. Hektar has plan for big AEI on Subang Parade, hopefully that could safe it, but as Hektar's debt is quite high, DPU downward risk remains high for any extra expenses and lower rental reversion/occupancy rate.
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Just been to Subang Parade last week to look look see see.. not as bad as the report. First floor and second floor all shops open. Only 3rd floor have some vacancy.
Not too crowded, but OK for weekend. Not different from other malls. Saying that, Empire is stealing most of their customers.

IMHO, Subang Parade has too much wasted space ie the sunken portion. An AEI to increase these empty location is sorely needed to increase space.

Hektar is partially owned by Frasers group, which is a very reputable mall operator in SG. I trust their management.

P/S I visit all my REIT holding property periodically.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sand Dust @ Sep 15 2017, 03:15 PM)
Question when will the 15% REIT tax will be removed?
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It's 10% and was recently renewed from 2016 to 2019, if I am not mistaken.

Don't think they can/willing to remove it, many big companies will shout.. including GLC and Amanah Hartanah Bumiputera.. devil.gif

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History..
2007-2011 - 15%
2011-2016 - 10%
2016-2019 - 10%

No sweat, if they do decide to remove, we all move to SG or HK.. kow tim... even better deal at 0% whistling.gif

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post Sep 20 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 20 2017, 08:20 AM)
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Any advise on first time REITS investing and where is a good place to start and learn ?
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Best resource is forum, ask anything you like.

Next is reitdata.com laugh.gif

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post Sep 20 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2017, 09:09 AM)
cimb report said 10-year MGS yield drops to 3.9% vs last year peak at 4.4%.
probably that's why reit has been rallying recent months.
correction is landing at the moment, hopefully more rabbits jumping around... cool2.gif
those best assets reits such as pavreit and igbreit still sky high with very low yield....  hmm.gif
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No more fat rabbits lar.. even the trump scare in Nov/Dec 2016 also no effect to MReits.. yawn.gif

But on other hand in Sreits lots of bargains during the scare. thumbup.gif

Better look elsewhere. tongue.gif
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post Sep 20 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 20 2017, 09:31 AM)
i still kind of worry on Singapore's property future....its unfriendly relationship with china, dangerous replacement in the making to highly affect Singapore port trading business, and its already sky high property price.
Another rather long term and minor reason, the possible emerging power of Johor Iskandar (to see Singapore investors moving their property to Iskandar for much lower costs).
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SREITs is not just SG properties.. there are lots of listed REITs in SG with property in US, Europe, India, Indonesia, China, HK, Aussie, Japan etc...

Truly a worldwide REIT offering, and the bonus is 0% dividend tax... drool.gif

For example my SReit holdings have property concentrations in India, Indonesia, China, SG, Aussie and Japan. No Europe or US yet.. laugh.gif

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post Oct 31 2017, 03:21 PM

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IGBREIT is starting to get interesting at 1.64 now..

previous sold all of mine at 1.75..

Go lower go lower.. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

Come help me chant. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 31 2017, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 31 2017, 05:22 PM)
Bro,... don't you think if the price drops too much, there could have been a serious fundamental problem with IGBREIT already ? Wouldn't it be dangerous to enter then ?
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Not really.. as i visit their mall at least 2x a month.. if there are anything wrong with the mall, I would notice it straight away.

That is why previously I manage to buy at a great price and sold off when the yield get ridiculously low.. now at this price 5.2% is still too low.. sweat.gif
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post Nov 1 2017, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 1 2017, 03:49 AM)
forecast FY18 yield is 9.1 sen, which means net yield of 4.96%, which is still low. I'm expecting above 5.25% net yield for igbreit.... i'm waiting at 1.55... hmm.gif
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I am waiting at 1.50.. dunno can get or not.. sweat.gif
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post Nov 1 2017, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Nov 1 2017, 02:39 PM)
What goes up, must come down laugh.gif

I'm also waiting at 1.50 - anything below 6% yield is not worth it IMO.
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Last time got drop until 1.25... went banzai on it.. brows.gif
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post Nov 1 2017, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 1 2017, 03:39 PM)
No way IGBreit will go back to 1.30~1.40, nor below 1.50

Last time DPU only 6.8 to 7 cents.
Now 8.x cents already, and still with 100% occupancy, and with positive rental revision whenever lease expired.
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last time at 1,25 DPU is about 7+ cents like that.. now slightly higher.. and also bond yields are lower.

I am willing to buy some at 1.50. .. 5.5% yield. rclxms.gif Think it is a fair number..

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post Nov 2 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(summer_86 @ Nov 2 2017, 03:21 PM)
what happen to igbreit....1.63 already
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Gogogo rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Foreigners all dumping reits .. anticipation december rate hike.. whistling.gif
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post Nov 2 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Nov 2 2017, 04:00 PM)
wait 1.50?  icon_idea.gif
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1.50-1.55 is ok yield lah.. rclxms.gif
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post Nov 3 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 3 2017, 10:41 AM)
May be investors are buying the myth of malls are going to die across due to emerge of E-commerce.  bruce.gif

So smalls reits are under selling pressure.
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Smaller malls maybe.. but MV.. don't think it will go anywhere soon.. tongue.gif

ARA is planning to list a new mall reit.. but the mall list is like meh...all lousy dry.gif

1 Mon Kiara .. ok...
Klang Parade .. meh
Citta Mall .. OMG! shakehead.gif
Ipoh Parade.. ok...
AEON Malacca.. meh

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/ara-...-malaysian-reit

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post Nov 14 2017, 05:04 PM

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Added more MQreit today @ 1.25
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post Nov 15 2017, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 15 2017, 10:03 AM)
Same here.
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Net yield near 6%, ok lah.
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Next target IGB Reits.. drool.gif
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post Nov 20 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(White Meow @ Nov 17 2017, 09:23 AM)
MREIT so boring...unker u ngam meh?
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Why not? every portfolio needs some stability, 'boring' reits and dividend stock are good for these.

Then can reserve some extra for speculative plays.
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post Nov 20 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 20 2017, 02:53 PM)
I don't mind the "boring" if the reit is consistently giving out 6% every year.  biggrin.gif

Btw, recently news of gov intent to freeze the new malls and offices should be a positive news for reit, especially for top malls and grade A strategic location offices.
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News of BNM might hike OPR maybe up to two times next year is more encouraging for yield.. innocent.gif

And GG for flippers.. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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