QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 28 2015, 11:24 AM)
No different among these 3 except the financial end dates are differentthese funds invest in similar stocks, and managed by same fund manager
Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)
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Sep 1 2015, 10:21 PM
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ASD annual report 30/6/2015 is out.
3.4% of the total subscribers owning 85% of the funds. and 85% of the subscribers owning 5% of the funds Not sure how much profit carried forward from the annual report. |
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Sep 2 2015, 10:01 AM
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Sep 2 2015, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 2 2015, 07:13 AM) Thanks for the infor. In most developed nations, the rule of 20/80 applies, meaning 20% of the population own 80% of the national wealth. This is a concern to me with 3% owning 85% of the fund. I thought the intention is to spread the rewards across the population. Yes, it is up to the rakyat to join. Do you know the makeup of this 3%, bumi and non bumi? Thanks. For developing countries, it could be 5/95 where 5% population owns 95% of the nation's wealth. So all the fixed price ASNB funds are proven that, not only ASD. For mixed-race funds like AS1M, ASW, we can't differentiate who are the bigger fund depositors. But the ASD can explains it. The implication for ASD is, even for a fund that solely for Bumi, the 5/95 still applies. the pro-bumi policy enlarges the income gap within the Bumi Group. |
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 2 2015, 07:39 AM) I see. Thanks. From the report, the high net worth investors (0.5% of total subsribers) who own > RM50,000, own 55% of the total funds.85% of RM5.7 billion = RM4.8 billion owned by 3% of ASD subscribers Assuming 100,000 subscribers, then 3,000 own RM4.8 billion. Equals to about RM 1 million each. So ..... Each investor in this category holds approximately RM1.5mil fund |
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QUOTE(my44 @ Sep 2 2015, 12:07 PM) Different topik a bit. I just got back from Maybank for regular banking. When taking number giliran, that person oredi ask if I want ASB loan. Then at teller counter, different staff asking the same. Banks slow down on giving out mortgage loans, to sustain the loan growth, they need to expand other financing.More aggressive lately? Maybe they got loan targets? |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2015, 01:59 PM) The reason of changing passbook is to standardize the customer number. Previous arrangement is different fund different customer ID. With the new system all funds under the same customer will be displayed within the same page in the computer screen |
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There is an over speculation on conversion of all 6 FP to VP funds. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, especially bank take ASB and ASW certificates as collateral for OD/TL facilities. Bank offer up to 95% financing based on the face value of the certificate.
If the funds convert to VP funds, the banking industry will be upside down. |
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Sep 8 2015, 05:56 PM) as far as i know, the only notice i saw was maximum of 10k cash withdrawal at the asnb office. that was during raya times. not sure if it's still there. there is no withdrawal limit if you transfer the withdrawal to your saving or current account, then u can transfer it out using cheque or interbank transfer.likewise, d post office i go to also has a maximum withdrawal of 10k cash. probably they don't have that much cash in hand. There is a limit on cash withdrawal as the bank needs liquidy in the strong room. |
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Sep 12 2015, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 12 2015, 01:46 PM) The bold part I disagree.. not all put in ASB. some don't invest in ASB at all because of "was-was" mentility or can say they think it's not shariah compliance. tis group invested in Tabung Haji & it's already cut zakat compare with ASB Spot on !!didn't put $$ in banks? then how they get paid for monthly salary etc. direct transfer into ASB accout? bypass CASA? Plus ASB got max limit of 200k, if they don't put extra money in the bank, they put under their pillow? What a sweeping statement saying bumi don't put money in the bank. |
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Sep 12 2015, 04:45 PM) think u need to understand that the majority are not that rich at all. only 'certain' people are rich enough to have 200k in their asb. There are many anyhow, vincent probably meant they transfer all their money into asb and not literally no CASA at all. lol Read the asb report how many exceeded 200k deposits. |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 14 2015, 09:59 AM) PNB unaffected by falling ringgit ASNB has very limited foreign exposure. http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ggit/?style=biz Gud news for Asx holders? Their strategy is dividend income from the blue chip stocks they have invested. They do not flip stocks, but keep for long term. Those dividends may fall when the business is affected by economic turmoil. That is one of the reasons why the fixed price fund unlikely will fall below RM1/unit. One of the successful stories by a dummy investor in Japan (a grandma of 90 years old who never go to school). She has around 50 grandkids/ great grand kids. She has never made lost in stock investment throughout her 60 years of investment experience. The secret behind is she keep every blue chip stocks she bought and keep them for at least 30 years, and she never sell it. Although her investment is relatively very small, but it proven works. ASNB applying the similar strategy apparently. |
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