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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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wil-i-am
post Aug 13 2015, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 13 2015, 04:54 AM)
By the way, rest assured. ASW2020 will give out 6.6% for this year.
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U seems to b very confident

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post Aug 13 2015, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 13 2015, 06:40 AM)
U seems to b very confident
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I am confident because
a) I think 3 years straight of giving 6.x%?
b) They save some dividends from every year.
c) Not sure which funds give 6.6% early this year.
d) If they don't give 6.x%, people might redraw and move some where else

But I cannot say the same for next year. How much will they give

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Aug 13 2015, 07:18 AM
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post Aug 13 2015, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Aug 12 2015, 11:03 PM)
Time is always in very limited but $$ so far still ok ...haha
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Go for ASM. Don't try asw and as1m first. I believe ASM have a lot for now. As long as the issues haven't resolve. Once everything is fine, bursa shoot up, then the unit will be less.
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post Aug 13 2015, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 13 2015, 12:27 AM)
Wonder how much is the dividend per unit for the ASW2020 at end-August...
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6.6

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post Aug 13 2015, 09:35 AM

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managed to topup asw and as1m today. in good luck.

time to further transfer my fd to asx. but the question is how much ratio should i divide. i dun play stocks
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post Aug 13 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 13 2015, 09:35 AM)
managed to topup asw and as1m today. in good luck.

time to further transfer my fd to asx. but the question is how much ratio should i divide. i dun play stocks
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Maybe 40 ASX: 40 Epf: 20 fd?

Or 50 ASX: 30 EPF: 20 fd?

EPF max can put in is rm60k/year. Returns more or less same with ASX. But epf have to wait until 55 years old to withdraw.

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post Aug 13 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 13 2015, 07:17 AM)
I am confident because
a) I think 3 years straight of giving 6.x%?
b) They save some dividends from every year.
c) Not sure which funds give 6.6% early this year.
d) If they don't give 6.x%, people might redraw and move some where else

But I cannot say the same for next year. How much will they give
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a & b - agreed
c - Most likely they follow ASM to declare 6.60%
d - dun agreed as Ppl still luv ASx

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post Aug 13 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 13 2015, 10:21 AM)
a & b - agreed
c - Most likely they follow ASM to declare 6.60%
d - dun agreed as Ppl still luv ASx
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For example FD give 14% (like what happen in 1998)
and ASX give 5%. No brainer which one you will choose. tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 13 2015, 09:35 AM)
managed to topup asw and as1m today. in good luck.

time to further transfer my fd to asx. but the question is how much ratio should i divide. i dun play stocks
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The ideal ratio depends on Individual investment objective
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post Aug 13 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 13 2015, 10:28 AM)
The ideal ratio depends on Individual investment objective
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care to elaborate a little bit more bro?
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post Aug 13 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 13 2015, 10:26 AM)
For example FD give 14% (like what happen in 1998)
and ASX give 5%. No brainer which one you will choose. tongue.gif
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I agreed if u compare with xtreme events
With the present macro economic environments, BNM is unlikely to hike int rate

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 13 2015, 10:34 AM)
I agreed if u compare with xtreme events
With the present macro economic environments, BNM is unlikely to hike int rate
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Couldn't agree more. They cannot hike rate or else economy going to become bad. Only thing can do is lower rates. Or maintain.
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post Aug 13 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 13 2015, 10:29 AM)
care to elaborate a little bit more bro?
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Every individuals have their own preference when come to investments
Thus, how to share d ratio?
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QUOTE(DupeBoy @ Aug 13 2015, 11:17 AM)
Hey guys. Sorry what is ASX?
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Amanah Saham

x is for the fund under ASNB like ASM, ASW, AS1M, ASB etc

u cannot write each fund in your reply..

so juz write ASx laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DupeBoy @ Aug 13 2015, 11:32 AM)
LMAO okay since im non-bumi I think the only viable option are ASG and ASN3. but what is the difference though between ASx accounts and normal FD deposit account? ASx generate better returns?
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well u can also try out ASM like our TS said.. u can see Post #2242 for the branch that willing to help.

it's fixed price @ rm1/unit unlike ASN3 & ASG which the unit price move according to KLCI performance..

yup, ASx do give higher returns.. normally 6% & above compare with FD which max around 4.5 p.a icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 13 2015, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Aug 12 2015, 01:12 PM)
Hopefully there would be branches in Kuching, Sarawak..  blush.gif
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Hi, does anyone know where in Kuching to open an account for non-bumi?
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post Aug 13 2015, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(pearllypearl @ Aug 13 2015, 11:47 AM)
Hi, does anyone know where in Kuching to open an account for non-bumi?
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Just try all banks (maybank. Cimb, rhb). Be nice and beg them.

If they said no quota yell them if got units, I know can open. Can you please try?

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QUOTE(DupeBoy @ Aug 13 2015, 11:32 AM)
LMAO okay since im non-bumi I think the only viable option are ASG and ASN3. but what is the difference though between ASx accounts and normal FD deposit account? ASx generate better returns?
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Of course. Generally for fixed priced asx, they give 6.6%/pa. Tax free.

No need to hunt for fd promo every year to get best rates. Buy and can forget about it (fixed price). Hence the difficulty in opening and topping up. However with recent problems, you'll never go home empty handed. tongue.gif

If you buy variable price, then is different story.

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post Aug 13 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(DupeBoy @ Aug 13 2015, 01:00 PM)
What would you recommend for a non-bumi with RM5k to invest? I got confused with the different type of products offered by ASNB rclxub.gif
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ASW/ASM/AS1M
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post Aug 13 2015, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(DupeBoy @ Aug 13 2015, 01:00 PM)
What would you recommend for a non-bumi with RM5k to invest? I got confused with the different type of products offered by ASNB rclxub.gif
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Have your pick. If you don't mind lsoing money, open ASG. Now good time to buy ASG (prices are down, so you can get more units at a cheaper price). Then when economy recover sell ASG. Tax 5% + 6% of that 5%. Need to hold for about 2-3 years to profit. With bad economy, it will give you returns of 2-3%. But when economy become good, it will give you >10%. For me I am going to hold my ASG until economy recovers to gain back my principle and sell it and transfer into ASX (fixed price)

If you don't like to lose money and want stable returns. Open ASX (fixed price). Annual returns of 6.6% for now despite bad times or good times. Can't say about the future. But must depend on luck.
1) Got units, Bank officers don't want to help you open, you cannot open.
2) No units. Bank officer try to help you open. You cannot open also.

To open must be nice to them and beg them. But nowadays can open and top up easily. You won't go back empty handed. You know why la. tongue.gif.

ASM - malay sell, Chinese. Indian can buy.
ASW2020, AS1M - malay sell, Chinese Indian cannot buy. Only can buy from Chinese/Indian/others quota. Eg, are a chinese, can only when chinese sell.

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