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post Feb 24 2015, 11:14 AM

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Ukraine media say they have identified Debaltseve separatist theatre commander Olga Sergeevna (nom de guerre 'Corsa') as former Ukrainian police Junior Colonel Olga Kachura

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Huh, no wonder very natural at commanding. hmm.gif

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post Feb 24 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Feb 24 2015, 11:26 AM)
Oshkosh Corp. introduces new military ambulance

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Lel, old news already. Ohkosh has Ambulance version of M-ATV on sale since about 2010 already. And I mean an actual ambulance with actual medical equipment, not a regular M-ATV slapped with a red cross on the side. laugh.gif

Here is from DSEi 2011 in London:
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Interior looks hella cramped tho. Donno how medic is gonna treat anybody like that. Doesn't seem to have sitting space :
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post Feb 24 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Feb 24 2015, 02:01 PM)
DAT dragunov??

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Totally holding the rifle wrong tho. biggrin.gif
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Malaysia, Laos agree to host Military Attachés

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24.2.2015- Kuala Lumpur and Vientiane have agreed to set up a military attaché post for both countries following a meeting yesterday between Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein and Lao Prime Minister Thongsing Thammavong in Vientiane yesterday. Also present was National Defence Minister Lt-Gen Sengnouane Sayalat.

The meeting was aimed at further strengthening the existing bilateral relations, specifically in military and defence co-operation. Hishammuddin said he had made the request for a defence attache during his previous visit to the Lao capital on May 21 last year.

“We are in the process of identifying a suitable candidate to be posted to Vientiane,” Hishammuddin said in a statement.

The Lao government had also approved a Lao MA Office to be set up in Kuala Lumpur.

Meanwhile, Hishammuddin said a Letter of Intent (LOI) was also signed by both ministries confirming mutual interest in strengthening bilateral and
defence cooperation between Malaysia and Laos.

Following the LOI, a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on defence cooperation will be signed when Malaysia officially open the MA Office in Vientiane, he said.

Hishammuddin also attended a meeting with Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of National Defence General Tea Banh in Phnom Penh yesterday and will travel to to Hanoi, Vietnam later tonight to meet his Vietnamese counterpart, Defence Minister General Phung Quan Thanh.
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post Feb 25 2015, 11:12 AM

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Breaking: UK to send military advisers to Ukraine

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British military personnel are to be sent to Ukraine in the next few weeks to provide advice and training, says Prime Minister David Cameron. The prime minister told a House of Commons committee that up to 75 British soldiers divided into four teams would go to an area well away from the conflict zone to provide medical, logistics, intelligence and infantry skills.

While much of the British training will be in non-combat or combat-support areas like medical skills; logistics and intelligence, there will also be an infantry element to the programme which the Ministry of Defence says will include things like the planning and execution of urban operations.

PM Cameron made it clear that, for now, there was no question of selling weapons to Ukraine, but with the ceasefire failing, the debate is likely to be renewed in Washington with vigour.

This is totally a bad idea. There is simply no way the Russians are gonna let this slide. Now there will suddenly be Russian military engineer and construction brigades (cough Spetznaz cover cough) to 'help with the reconstruction of the Donbass region' (and the destruction of the rest of Ukraine laugh.gif ).
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post Feb 25 2015, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 25 2015, 11:40 AM)
Dummy Brahmos on Indian Air Force Su 30MKI
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Mana ramjet intake? hmm.gif

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Or Air-launched version used solid-fuel engine?


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post Feb 25 2015, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 25 2015, 11:59 AM)
why we should be aware of china ship quality, not sure if it a drill but for me it does not look that way
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To me look like probably they intended to open the hatch for something. They were deliberately filming the procedure with good quality cameras pointed at that particular area when it happened and was not an incident accidentally caught by security cameras, so they were hoping to record something.

Probably the sailors just didn't realize the sea was that heavy at the time and a particularly lucky large wave hit the hatch just as they were unlocking the hatch. It looks like it's bright daylight outside, so sailors didn't realize sea was having high waves. Also looks like a single wave hit and then was gone, no pouring water came afterwards.

Also some commenters of Chinese Internet speculated that this incident happened at an observation hatch in the stern mooring line storage bay where they keep the mooring lines, at the very stern of the ship and could have involved any of the three hatches located there, most likely middle one :
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Nobody would expect a wave to hit an open hatch that high from the waterline in bright daylight. So, as bad accident as this is, probably is just a freak accident and have no relation to the subject of Chinese ship quality. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(DeFaeco @ Feb 25 2015, 02:02 PM)
That being said, the guy standing pretty much ate it when the door slammed on his face.

Ouch.
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According to the original news source the sailor fractured his right orbital bone and lost some teeth, other than that he's relatively OK.
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Indonesia to deploy SU-27 to escort transport plane carrying condemned Australians to death row island

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Indonesia’s squadron of Russian-made Sukhoi fighter jets has a strange new mission—riding shotgun beside a transport plane hauling two Australian prisoners to an island prison where they could face a firing squad for smuggling drugs.

“The Indonesian military commander has given the order to assist the relocation of the two death defendants,” Maj. Gen. Torry Djohar said on Feb. 22. “A squadron of Sukhoi jet fighters will be prepared to escort the Hercules aircraft that will be used to transport the defendants. We will also deploy ocean patrol and land forces.”

The Sukhois will accompany a C-130 carrying prisoners Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan from Bali—in the country’s south—to the remote Nusakambangan Island farther west as early as Feb. 27. Nusakambangan is a wildlife refuge that also the location of Indonesia’s most notorious prisons, housing some 2,000 inmates including terrorists and drug traffickers.

“Death row inmates are routinely whisked into the dense forest at midnight, blindfolded, asked to stand, sit or kneel and simultaneously fired at by 12 executioners aiming for their chests,” the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

“The firing squad is drawn from Indonesia’s paramilitary forces and if the prisoner is still breathing, the commander will shoot him or her point-blank in the head.”
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Feb 25 2015, 03:35 PM)
They expect Australia to intercept the Hercules?
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 25 2015, 04:57 PM)
like atreyuangel said, even US golden child canot get their hands on it, do we have any chance to own one? License production is totally out sorry to say

Plus, it a slow plane can only deployed when the enemy does not have an effective air defence system.

If there manpad around.. it like shooting a flying watermelon because of it slow speed, low flying height and rather big target
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While true A-10 do have some armor and have duplicate systems to enable continue flying after damage,the plane is not invincible. It's all damage limitation only. Hit the A-10 in a good spot with a SAM or AA fire and it WILL go down.

The myth of the 'Flying tank' is pretty much exaggerated.
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Feb 25 2015, 06:42 PM)
Nigeria​n​ military destroy terrorist havens in five communities
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Bombing villages full of innocent people just because some terrorists set up shop there? Totally taking a chapter from US COIN handbook.

Yeah, no way in hell this is gonna backfire. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 25 2015, 09:41 PM)
I thot they're for diff purpose?
BMP turret more for fighting other armor while cockerill for fire support no??
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Fixed for you.

Nope, BMP-3 is still an IFV, the 100mm is low powered gun for infantry support. If suddenly a tank appears, BMP-3 will use its gun-launched laser-guided 9M117 'Bastion (NATO: AT-10 'Stabber') ATGM.

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9M117 Bastion laser-guided ATGM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 25 2015, 10:26 PM)
Cockerill also offers105mm and 120mm gun. can shot GL-ATGM summore
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Prolly the whole turret would be too heavy for AV8 hull. Structurally also not sure if can hold a turret that big, even if turret ring fits.

Also why wanna put such heavy guns on AV8?

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 25 2015, 10:46 PM)
anyway, atm is no longer interested in large calibre cannon for it's ifv's
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I find the concept of arming IFV-type vehicles with heavy cannons wonky in the first place. Small caliber autocannons in 20mm-30mm range have much more utility and versatility for infantry support duties.

Also the type of ammo carried also less dangerous for crew and passenger. In case IFV is hit, small caliber shells don't go kaboom and vaporise everybody in the IFV as readily as large caliber shells.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 25 2015, 11:03 PM)
or like japan MCV and italy Centauro.. dump the entire crew carrying and built a dedicated tank destroyer based on 8x8 platform
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I'd buy this and use it as an assault gun, not a tank destroyer. Probably OK for heavy direct fire support, but probably shite in a tank destroyer role. Gun is probably lightweight in regards to modern armor technology, also being wheeled makes it less versatile to go where than the tanks its supposed to hunt is going.

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 25 2015, 11:36 PM)
name is tank destroyer... what it actually supposed to do is more of heavy fire support escort for 8x8 vehicles column

what it suppose to kill is not tank but light armed vehicles.. those 105mm will hardly made a dent on modern tanks frontally unless hit on some sweet spot.
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Hahaha false advertising.

Guess naming it "Light armored vehicle destroyer" doesn't have that certain 'kick' to it. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 26 2015, 12:04 AM)
I hope there's more adnan ifv in atm inventory, at least to completely replace the scorpion and stormer
as majority of them is already been retired or turned to static display, along with the condor and sibmas
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Wanna establish another mechanized infantry brigade? We currently have 4 already.

People usually think any Private Ali, Ah Seng & Muthu can ride an IFV/APC go here and there. These are reserved solely for mechanized soldiers, who are actually trained on how to fight alongside an armored vehicle. Other guys naik lori. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 26 2015, 07:08 AM)
But if we dont have light tanks how we gonna destroy enemy armour? Rpgs?? Mechanized infantry dont carry atgms right?
Why not get acv-sw so that we can use the 100mm/30mm gun to destroy ifv/apcs while using atgm to destroy tanks?
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If a mechanized force is fighting another mechanized force, then something is wrong already. Tactically, mechanized infantry forces put more emphasis on speed and maneuverability, not firepower. They usually use their armored vehicles for outflanking the enemy hard and fast, not to directly engage enemies head-on. It's their heritage from being mostly based on Wehrmacht Blitzkrieg mechanized infantry tactics: deploy your strongest forces against the enemy's weakest.

Their weapons are for infantry support, not for machine-on-machine engagements. That's why usually only 3-4 ATGMs are only carried by most types of IFVs, for emergency self-defense purposes only in case another tank or IFV is encountered. They certainly won't look to actively engage other armored vehicles.
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Feb 26 2015, 08:15 AM)
105mm high-velocity gun firing a APFSDS is still pretty capable of defeating modern tank armor.

A tank destroyer is a light armored vehicle that's equip with a tank cannon. It's suppose to be cheaper and easier to maintain compared to MBT.
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It's too specialized though. The role of 'Tank Destroyer' has been mostly superseded by more versatile ATGM-firing light vehicles these days. If all you need is speed and tank-busting firepower, surely a Humvee with TOW missiles is the better and more economical action. Smaller silhouette and easier to hide also, especially for ambush and harassment duties.

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