WTF happened? I was away for just 1-2 days, now forum has degenerated into Abrams vs T-90 cockfight.

If really wanna put extra-large caliber 150mm gun into a small enough mobile carriage, an assault gun/tank destroyer configuration where gun is directly installed on an enlarged hull also can be considered, although loss of rotating turret could be a major handicap.

Problem is SP guns tend to be not so armor-protected. I won't bet money on SP guns on frontline direct fire roles surviving for long. Even with heavy 155mm gun, they usually are lightweight (around 20-30 tons only), so you can imagine the armor level for something of that weight.

The tech should exist already, but that kinda big-ass gun needs even big-ass turret, so proly in the end you get something ass-ugly like this:

Rough tally of military equipment and heavy weapons captured by Pro-Russian separatists in the Debaltsevo pocket after withdrawal of Ukraine government forces

very decent haul, if I may say so myself.

Pro-Russian separatists examining abandoned Ukraine military base in Debaltsevo found intact US-made counter-battery radar system at 4:30.



A closer look:


Needless to say, the cases containing the radar system would probably be in Moscow by next morning.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 20 2015, 08:54 PM

Dude, forget Pinoys. This haul could've represented the entire army equipment of about 60% countries of the world.

Malaysia mulls creation of ASEAN peacekeeping force



Malaysia is looking to establish an Asean peacekeeping force to safeguard the region from threats including those of the Islamic State (IS), Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said.

“I am visiting every Asean country and one of the things which will be discussed is the forming of this peacekeeping force.

“So far, I have been to Thailand and tomorrow I will began my visits to Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar,” he said in his address to the ministry on Wednesday at Wisma Perwira ATM.

He added that the Asean peacekeeping force would not only ensure the security of the region but also participate in international peacekeeping missions.

“Malaysia has been put in the privileged position of chairing of Asean in 2015 and being returned to the United Nations Security Council (UNSC).

“We should use this to focus on promoting better cooperation and sharing of information to help ensure global and regional security,” he said.

No need full integration NATO-style, just some inter-government policy understanding and shared protocols & SOP among regional military would be a massive step already.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 20 2015, 10:19 PM

Pfft...SEATO is US-created alliance to counter communist spread, moreover most of members not even in ASEAN region. Even Pakistan is member. Most ASEAN countries, except obvious US allies won't even touch the treaty.

I don't think this is Anti-China alliance. Prolly just limited power for countering internal problems like rebellions or insurgencies among members.

Haha total BS, Baghdad Bob-style. Tons of video evidence showing a lot of captured military armor and vehicles. Even one of the commanders of the 'Krivbas battalion' Pro-Government paramilitary unit (not some random dude) has confirmed the battalion has 91 casualties out of the total 300+ personnel of his unit. That's about 1/3 of its total strength.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 20 2015, 11:14 PM

Kiev fears Pro-Russian separatist eyeing Mariupol as next target

Civilian volunteers use a stencil to paint directions towards one of Mariupol's Soviet-era bomb shelters as fear of separatist attack and the inevitable artillery and rocket bombardments mounts

The position of Mariupol, a major port city in the Sea of Azov, seems to make it an obvious target for Pro-Russian separatists to make after consolidating their frontlines with the removal of the Debaltsevo salient, despite the signing of the recent Minsk ceasefire agreements. The city has a massive port and can potentially be a major supply line from Russian to the separatist-controlled areas.

The fear for Ukraine government leaders are that the separatists would use Mariupol as a major stepping stone in the seizure of a land bridge from Russian mainland territory with the recently annexed Crimean peninsula. With separatist forces dug in barely 10 miles from the city itself, at the town of Shirokyne, citizens are fearful of what might happen if the separatists decide to press their advantage.

Despite a somewhat determined offensive by pro-government paramilitary units last month timed simultaneously to pull separatist troops and relieve the pressure from the encirclement of Debaltsevo, the paramilitary units cannot drive back the separatists from their initial positions across the Kalmius river, with only negligible gains being recorded by the paramilitary units.
Latest map of Pro-Russian separatist territories after the capture of Debaltsevo, note the proximity of Mariupol with separatist-controlled areas

The civilians are fearful of the massive separatists artillery and rocket strikes they saw happening during the battle of Debaltsevo. Many fear the recent separatist Grad rocket attack on the city, where 30 people died as a harbinger of things to come.

One civilian commented: “Of course, we don’t believe the soldiers can protect us. From Grads (rockets)? No soldier can protect you”, said Ira Chupina, who works at a market in the eastern part of the city, where the shelling over Shirokyne can be heard around the clock. “We hope that the government won’t give us up. But we saw what happened at Debaltsevo.”

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 21 2015, 09:47 PM

People from the west usually just love to paint Putin as megalomaniac and a power hungry dictator, but experts usually dismiss this view. Experts usually point out Putin is an extremely capable political animal and is a veritable expert in foreign policy. He knows how to read the international political climate from his days as a KGB foreign intelligence analyst in East Germany. A far cry from the usually dry and politically naive western presidents who is usually come from legal backgrounds.

Also Russian political system allows him to bide his time in enacting and maintaining long-term plans.

Not exactly the James Bond-levels badassness some people attribute him to , as he was a desk jockey, albeit a very senior and high-ranking one (he retired a Colonel), but probably this makes him more knowledgeable about foreign policy than most western Presidents who were former lawyers or college professors.

He probably knows more about NATO than current NATO officials these days.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 22 2015, 09:34 AM

Nanti klu letak ada la pulak suara2 sumbang cakap Armata ni masih guna obsolete design T-72 hehehe

Most of it is the ramjet compression chamber. For its weight and size, Brahmos warhead itself is quite light at 200kg. Smaller Exocet missile already hold 180kg warhead. Although kinetic damage of mach 3 missile also can contribute some extra damage to target.

On the other hand Exocets are mature, dependable tech with proven record. Also probably a lot of people know how to service and maintain them (Forget French, probably can ask an Argentine or Uruguayan missile technician to help service Malaysian Exocet missiles ).

Also Exocets have presumably cheaper cost and with usually 2 missiles can be carried per strike fighter, this allows missile spamming against enemy fleet.

Ukraine crisis proves a side with no air force but equipped with powerful AA systems can effectively neutralize the enemy's air force.

Given, Ukraine Air Force is not decidedly US-level, but even the threat of older AA systems such as Buk long-range missiles, SA-8 medium range missiles and Strela MANPADS missiles has been proven successful in crippling Ukraine Air Force capability to support their ground forces, a factor that if available, could have been a game changer. A lot of air power was used in the beginning of the conflict, but initial heavy losses persuaded the Ukraine air force it can no longer operate under such conditions and grounded the air force.

Deprived of air support, Ukrainian forces were unable to resist the heavily armed and equipped Pro-Russian separatists.

Jubilant Pro-Russian separatists hold victory rally over the capture of Debaltsevo city


Cossack soldiers, characterized by their fur hats, parade through cheering crowds of supporters during the victory rally in the city of Donetsk, eastern Ukraine

Pro-Russian rebels celebrated their recent victory at Debaltseve with a festive rally on Monday in Donetsk, the main city they control, where soldiers received medals in Lenin Square and the crowd cheered and waved Soviet flags.

The soldiers appeared to be in an upbeat mood, marching into the square in disciplined formations on a sunny afternoon. After collecting their medals, they spoke of fighting onward to capture other towns in eastern Ukraine.

Morale is high on the separatist side of the conflict in eastern Ukraine, after rebel fighters pushed the Ukrainian Army out of Debaltseve, a strategic railroad hub astride the main highway from Donetsk to Luhansk. During its winter offensive starting from September and ending in Februrary, the separatists have managed to nearly double their territories after significant victories over the Ukraine government forces. The separatists have also argued that the willingness of the Ukrainian government to meet with the separatists directly during the Minsk peace talks earlier this month has signalled a de facto recognition of their authority over eastern Ukraine by Kiev.

The rally in Donetsk coincides with a popular holiday for military veterans — Defender of the Fatherland Day — which dated to Soviet times commemorating its victory in WWII.