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post Jan 10 2007, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 10 2007, 09:34 AM)
ASW2020 and ASB lor..want to buy.. can buy through banks what no meh?
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Cheee, I thought what doh.gif . What bank you have? Then open there lor. tongue.gif

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post Jan 12 2007, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Jan 10 2007, 01:44 PM)
Sorry, what is ASB? You mean got 12% per annum of profit?
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ASB = Amanah Saham Bumiputra, ASW2020 = Amanag Saham Wawasan 2020, ASN = Amanah Saham Nasional. Yearly divided (Profit gain by doing nothing) tongue.gif

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post Jan 12 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Jan 12 2007, 01:38 PM)
Need at least how much value to be invested?
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Up to u lor tongue.gif RM1 also can i think biggrin.gif
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post Feb 2 2007, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Jan 12 2007, 08:44 PM)
Is it bumiputera commerce bank?
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I think ASB service provided. If i'm not mistaken lor. U can always check. tongue.gif

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post Feb 6 2007, 08:13 AM

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Sorry wrong post tongue.gif


Added on February 6, 2007, 8:14 am
QUOTE(musha01 @ Feb 5 2007, 10:51 PM)
wah so many money you save in ur house,how long ur been saving ?can u give me ur tips?
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1. Been working since 15 years of age.
2. No girlfriends (Which save me right up to 99% of my saving). Recommended for
people wants to gain RM500k before age 25. At age 25 I already have RM675k
in my ASB+ASW+Tabung Haji. Of course parents help as welllah. With this u can
escape from incometax. Been doing it 15 years already. biggrin.gif
3. Most of things (Like food, place,car,petrol etc fully sponsored by parents)
4. When shopping always bring pen and paper. Each item you about to purchase
list the pros & cons before purching. By doing that, I always end up buying
nothing since lazy to list down.
5, Once you receive salary bankin and cut your atm card (Only keep your bank
book). Ask your parents to keep in. Only use the saving when u in critical
situation (Means dying)
6. Never leave your parents house. (So rent free)
7. Always think about yourself. Ignore others. Set target where only you in the
picture. Maximize the opportunity of using your parents money. Pity them less.
Because soon or later they will go anyway. So all the assets goes to u anyway.
8. If possible try to ignore EFP + Soso or what so ever to avoid record with income
tax.
9. Say Big No No to credit card, mutual fund, Stock, Unit Trust, MLM, Loans etc. (
Unless you fully understand what you want to get involved then ok).
10. I know it sounds selfish but that's the only way for you get gain RM1M+ before
age 30 unless you have business. My next door neighbour gain RM4M as in
saving already by doing business. He's only 21 years age. Dam jealous of him.

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 6 2007, 11:53 AM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif seems we r totally from different class. after reached 1M, wat u want to do then? spend it all?
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Buy a house. tongue.gif . Nolah is all self satisfaction. After 1M i just keep 5 year fix deposit at citibank. Get a special rate interest. I'm doing this to boost my self confident. U think is easy to get RM1M before age 30 + tax free?

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 6 2007, 02:42 PM)
asb no max limit eh? i thought onli 200k onli.. in term of self satisfaction, y don just play it in bisnes. more fun i think rather than let other people play with ur money. is it?  hmm.gif
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ASB max is RM250K means u can put right up to that amount. ASW not sure but i have more then RM250k in there. Self satisfaction is very board bro. U refering to yours, mine or other people?. Different people different taste. Now i am talking about my own satisfaction. Means i like the way it's done. Business i am not interested for the time been. Wait until something happen to my parents then i think about it. Coz a lot of things will happen when u know. Insurance, property etc is there. Well that's my life. Getting yourself involved in business is like trying to establishing yourself to people that u have money. Nowdays EVERYTHING PEOPLE CAN DO. If u have some unique product after 20 years hardwork of doing research etc, people can get your receipy in matter of seconds.

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 6 2007, 03:05 PM)
ohhh ok ok got it  smile.gif

asb after we put 250k, can just let it grow with dividen eh? or must take out the annual dividen becoz cannot exceed 250k?
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250K can grow with dividen. Even untill 10 MILLION also can tongue.gif. But u can only put your pocket money MAXIMUM UNTIL RM250K ONLY cry.gif. Another thing is NEVER LOAN FROM BANK FOR ASB PURPOSES. At the end of the day u cry. Bank make more then you. sad.gif

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 6 2007, 03:20 PM)
u mean asb loan? if got excess money, surely asb loan is gud choice. but must have 1 year money which u dont want to touch. the return higher than conventional method. since i just start my career, dis asb loan is the worst investment i had  sweat.gif
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http://simpanduit.com/asbloan.html. Read here bro rclxms.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 01:25 PM

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Well, what can I say. I learn quite a few from u guys debating. Keep it up. kekekeke
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post May 25 2007, 11:59 AM

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I was told public mutual can compete with ASB or ASW in dividen stage. How true is that? If so i will redraw all my money is ASB + ASW and pour in one of pubic mutual fund.
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post Aug 23 2007, 03:06 PM

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Any news for end of this year percentage? I heard from people this year only 6.7% including bonus (ASB) quite bad huh.
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post Aug 26 2007, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(sakaing @ Aug 26 2007, 01:33 AM)
why don't u try public mutual?it is the largest mutual fund company in malaysia.
u can contact me for public mutual service.this is my phone number 0166310185 and a am MR.ng
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Sorry bro. For me i rather stick with Amanah Saham coz monitored by our government + terjamin also (For Now). It's ok i rugi (For Now) on mutual fund side. I know it's good, but i don't fully understand (Yet) on how to get my foot inside. So for the time been i rather go with Amanah saham while i do my own research. By the way this mutual fund think, can we go direct rather then engaging with agents. Is just so annoying dealing with them (No offense). Always promise like heaven and if everything turn bad, they simple run off. Speaking from experience sad.gif


QUOTE(shih @ Aug 26 2007, 02:01 AM)
Start getting customer already. Not good for Amanah Saham. haha....
good luck!!!!
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Good luck to you too thumbup.gif . You need all the luck that you can get. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 27 2007, 03:18 PM)
you forgot to tell him that there is a annual 5% fee for unit trust , and most of unit trust in malaysia is based on insurance-like schemes.

Even if you put all your money into defensive unit trust, namely bonds which should give u a  return of 5-6% annually, after service fee deduction, you will only end up with 1% or worse lose money in unit trust.
ASW is the best bet, 6.8% compouded interest for 3 years is 20% return.

with other unit trust, -5% every year.. does not seem like a good deal for me
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Hummm, I assume you speak from experience? How you come out with that kind of conclusion? Care to share with us all more ? Thankz in advance notworthy.gif

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post Aug 30 2007, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 30 2007, 01:05 PM)
our unit trust industry is still very much protected by our government, despite our commitment to financial liberalisation. THis is due to lobby of these unit trust group.

Take a look at PUblic Mutual fund website and their returns. THey only show you their earnings over few years. You will have to study them carefully before you buy unit trusts.

Let me give you one example, some funds say their 5 years return is 25% - sounds impressive. But do your own calcuation , if you put your money in FD for 6 years with compounded interest of 3.7% annually, you will get  24.3 % return on your savings too. AND the graphs they show you in their website does not include the 'service fee' of 3% annually.

So if you put 100k in unit trusts, with them deducting 2-3% of your savings annually for their service fee, and with their projected returns... do you think you got a good deal?

Unit trust in malaysia is run like an insurance company. Money (service fee) is siphoned out from each level of their sales person. why? because the company needs their agents to promote their unit trusts to the public. these promoters will sign up more sub-promoter ,etc. and most of these promoters are some unqualified makcik pakcik who work in some insurance of bankiing industry.

why is PNB superior ? for one, they do not need these 'promoters', therefore costs is saved, money that is supposed to be invested will not be wasted paying fees to those promoters. 2nd, they have the massive volume , and being Government linked company gives them the edge in their investments.
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Wahhhhhhhh, like that. Make sense also. No wonder this promoters/agents ask me to invest alot, so that they get their commission. If like this i withdraw my 20K from public mutuallah and pub back in ASB tongue.gif . Thanks for sharing. Totally wasting my time at this public mutual think. I didn't relise i am that stupid. Government try to help us all but we ourself like to be so clever and adventures. What a waste of time and effort. Aiyo. But nevermind. We learn from mistake. This mistake should never happen again. Thanks bro tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vergas @ Aug 30 2007, 04:45 PM)
I've warned you previously. wink.gif
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Sorry tilo notworthy.gif . As stubborn as i am, at lease i learn my lesson. tongue.gif .
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post Sep 6 2007, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Sep 6 2007, 04:15 PM)
i have no more money to put in sad.gif
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You can always loan mah. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yingchai @ Sep 10 2007, 12:40 AM)
Can i use Local Cheque to top-up my ASW2020 account?
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Yup. Shouldn't be any problem.
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QUOTE(hornetEJ @ Sep 10 2007, 10:17 AM)
Is it possible to open an account first tomorrow before buying the ASW2020 on Wednesday? Or is it that you can open an account only if there's available fund on this coming Wednesday?
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Either way bro. You wanna open account there or not, you still can put you money via ASW. tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(utellme @ Sep 13 2007, 10:47 AM)
I managed to Topup for my kids and wife, 10 minutes ago.    go....go go  biggrin.gif
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Good for you. So lucky. Now i already max out my ASB. Have to wait for ASW now. Aiyo. What the max for ASW? Is it RM20k as i recall? Correct me if i'm wrong. smile.gif

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