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avenger
post Oct 21 2006, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Espionage @ Oct 21 2006, 07:03 PM)
If i got the sms and i will take the picture and post up this over here. So I dont need to refund you? So case can be closed? OK?
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u ask those trade enforcer see it can be settled this way or not

p/s : u seems so happy can cabut away oredi, huh? fat dream.
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post Oct 21 2006, 07:13 PM

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so the seller refund to u liao, avenger?
avenger
post Oct 21 2006, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 21 2006, 07:13 PM)
so the seller refund to u liao, avenger?
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he very professional wor, how to refund.
Espionage
post Oct 21 2006, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Espionage @ Oct 21 2006, 07:03 PM)
If i got the sms and i will take the picture and post up this over here. So I dont need to refund you? So case can be closed? OK?
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Avenger, so the sms exists already ar????
Can settle if i show the sms or not?

This post has been edited by Espionage: Oct 21 2006, 07:22 PM
avenger
post Oct 21 2006, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Espionage @ Oct 21 2006, 07:21 PM)
Avenger, so the sms exists already ar????
Can settle if i show the sms or not?
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u ask TE, dont ask me. u know what i want, and u refused to it. so now it depends on TE.
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post Oct 21 2006, 09:33 PM

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with due all respect avenger, your previous posts and your posting style clearly shows that you're one kind of treatening and hot tempered person. IMHO.

i for one, believe that you've threathen him so in this case, if he is able to show his proof(sms) to us... then this case will be closed.

p/s: anyway if he really shows us the sms, i expect you'd say "sorry, too angry, getting on nerves ... etc"

peace

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avenger
post Oct 21 2006, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Oct 21 2006, 09:33 PM)
with due all respect avenger, your previous posts and your posting style clearly shows that you're one kind of treatening and hot tempered person. IMHO.

i for one, believe that you've threathen him so in this case, if he is able to show his proof(sms) to us... then this case will be closed.

p/s: anyway if he really shows us the sms, i expect you'd say "sorry, too angry, getting on nerves ... etc"

peace
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what did i threatened him? point it out. otherwise u will be 3rd person that i want to invite you to get out from this thread.

p/s : i never send any sms to him threatening him (unless he took it as threatening), so i guess there wont be any sms from him. if he really got it, of course he will take it long before this. and the moment i want reply from him, he never want to reply also, even after 1 day.

i wont reply any stupid post from you from now on (unless ultimately necessary)
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post Oct 21 2006, 10:22 PM

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Not many people seem to realise that this is not a court of law where we decide who is wrong and give punishment. This is a dispute resolution place - you settle your disputes yourself. As such, you need to negotiate. This involves giving and taking - if all you're out to do is establish who is wrong, then quite obviously you won't be getting a resolution. At the end of the day, you lose, avenger. You have nothing now, not even goodwill on your side considering you generally just insult everyone who disagrees with you.

I suggest you take steps to work a solution out with Espionage that will at least give you something, rather than complain and flame everyone who disagrees with your attitude. That doesn't get you anywhere.
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post Oct 21 2006, 10:35 PM

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i rest my case here in this thread. wont be replying anymore before you, uh.. invite me out?

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post Oct 21 2006, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(badawi_rocks @ Oct 21 2006, 10:22 PM)
Not many people seem to realise that this is not a court of law where we decide who is wrong and give punishment.  This is a dispute resolution place - you settle your disputes yourself.  As such, you need to negotiate.  This involves giving and taking - if all you're out to do is establish who is wrong, then quite obviously you won't be getting a resolution.  At the end of the day, you lose, avenger.  You have nothing now, not even goodwill on your side considering you generally just insult everyone who disagrees with you.

I suggest you take steps to work a solution out with Espionage that will at least give you something, rather than complain and flame everyone who disagrees with your attitude.  That doesn't get you anywhere.
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he keep lying there and avoiding at all cost. i dont understand at all. now he accused me threatening him, and u all fine with it. now he tries to use the fact that i threatening him to avoid from the original problem. u fine with it? i'm not.

i donno how u TE ppl do things, but from what i see now, he is qualified to be blacklisted. that guy dont want to compromise and yet u want me to nego with him? as if he want to nego. now do u hint that if he just stray away from the original problem, i will be always labelled as the person that is wrong? if answer is yes, that is so typical of you, badawi_rocks. forever im wrong?

1. accusation of my threatening him (until now no proof, talk cock only)
2. cocky (who is the one that cocky dont want to listen to call and no reply sms/msn)
3. lying (twist words)
4. running away from problem (talk alot and blame other parties)
5. trying to get things done in his way other than LYN way (open conference call lolz)

need me to list more of his resolution in this case?

reason why i invite ppl out from this thread is to prevent anymore irrelevant ppl to stir up environment here. he just babbling here most of the time and you all are happy that he is acting pro (is it?). If this dispute cannot be resolved, in future better ask all traders dont put personal warranty, since this guy can keep away from trouble and talk alot in forum. personal warranty is for show only.
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post Oct 21 2006, 10:47 PM

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And yet, you don't get my point. My point is - Negotiate a deal out. You're not gonna get 100%, but even 75% is better than nothing, which is what you have now.

I'm sure you read the subforum guidelines:-
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The moderators are not here to resolve your disputes, neither are they here to help you out. This subforum is for you to resolve your disputes in an organised and easy to follow manner.


I created this subforum. Believe me, I know what its for.
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post Oct 21 2006, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(avenger @ Oct 21 2006, 10:42 PM)
he keep lying there and avoiding at all cost. i dont understand at all. now he accused me threatening him, and u all fine with it. now he tries to use the fact that i threatening him to avoid from the original problem. u fine with it? i'm not.

i donno how u TE ppl do things, but from what i see now, he is qualified to be blacklisted. that guy dont want to compromise and yet u want me to nego with him? as if he want to nego. now do u hint that if he just stray away from the original problem, i will be always labelled as the person that is wrong? if answer is yes, that is so typical of you, badawi_rocks. forever im wrong?

1. accusation of my threatening him (until now no proof, talk cock only)
2. cocky (who is the one that cocky dont want to listen to call and no reply sms/msn)
3. lying (twist words)
4. running away from problem (talk alot and blame other parties)
5. trying to get things done in his way other than LYN way (open conference call lolz)
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Lets assume that we're not fine with it
What do u want us to do about it?
You've been in the forums for as long as i have, if you have at least 1 eye you'll know that this accusing thing happens all the time in every section
What, did u expect him to be banned because of it?

And take 1 min to think about it, he has a tag with him everywhere he posts
Why is it that you're so intent on having his name in a list which no one looks at in the first place?

You only see what happens to u and what u want done to him right away
Look at the bigger picture for once....
What should we do if we dont agree with him, what has been done to others like him and what would actually benefit you (i mean truly benefit, not just something which doesnt make a difference)

And u went as far as to spam my MSN...that's a first for me

Btw, if u dont give a damn about the forum rules, why should we?
Using arguements like "What are the mods doing?" when u should be asking yourself that

This post has been edited by KilJim: Oct 21 2006, 11:09 PM
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post Oct 21 2006, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(badawi_rocks @ Oct 21 2006, 10:47 PM)
And yet, you don't get my point.  My point is - Negotiate a deal out.  You're not gonna get 100%, but even 75% is better than nothing, which is what you have now.

I'm sure you read the subforum guidelines:-
I created this subforum.  Believe me, I know what its for.
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now that Espionage stated :

1. I threatened him (asking for the points and proof, but never give, instead like want to threaten me back)
2. I LCLY (who cocky not to reply any messages?)

and things he did :

1. lying (twist words)
2. running away from problem (talk alot and blame other parties)
3. trying to get things done in his way other than LYN way (open conference call lolz)

and you allowed that to happen in a sub forum you created?

i oredi stated my proposed solution (u guys keep ignoring it and pinpoint on my bad points, not the first time), and yet he wont nego on it. keep firing me stating i threatening him.

and I do get your point, it's his side that running away from main point, instead he tried to pancing simpati by saying i threatening him (i dono where he get that idea from). now u say i complain? yes, conman managed to brainwash you all.

let me repeat my proposal:
1. a working processor back (at least the same as the one he sold me b4)
2. refund RM 60.

then i will close this case.
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post Oct 21 2006, 11:17 PM

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avenger, this is a problem between you and espionage. Iron out a deal with him (instead of whining about it to us!). The trade enforcers are not here to settle your problems for you. Your proposal should be to him, not to the trade enforcers or the forum in general.

If you can't come to a resolution with him wt regards to this matter, i will personally offer a solution to the both of you.

1. avenger: I will personally refund you your RM60. The condition is you are forbidden from buying/trading in LYN due to your inability to resolve your dispute with a fellow member (yes, i do agree with espionage with regards to the way you handled this entire issue).

2. espionage: due to your inability to settle your dispute, you will forever have the dispute tag on your nick.

Thats final. This thread is closed. PM me your decisions. And no more arguments. Its either my way or your way.

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