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corinsb
post Apr 24 2015, 06:50 PM

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i am in dilemma in choosing the oven now :
1. Electrolux EOB2400AOX RM2299
2. Belling BI60MF RM2199
3. Rubine RBO-AVATA2-70SS RM1899

anyway i am first time oven user and cater for family of 5.
Which will be better?
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post Apr 25 2015, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(corinsb @ Apr 24 2015, 06:50 PM)
i am in dilemma in choosing the oven now :
1. Electrolux EOB2400AOX RM2299
2. Belling BI60MF RM2199
3. Rubine RBO-AVATA2-70SS RM1899

anyway i am first time oven user and cater for family of 5.
Which will be better?
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For me the main criteria would be even heat distribution in an oven and also durability (built quality and parts). That is what I selected the Belling as they are confident to give me 2 years manufacturer's warranty. Plus it is made in the UK. Electrolux has factories in China and Thailand. Not to say their quality is not good but I was thinking why not get from a manufacturer that specialises in ovens and cookers for about the same price? Rubine, it is a local brand manufactured in China but the price is almost at par with imported names.

From your selection, I see that you want a big oven. The Electrolux has the biggest capacity. As for functions, the Electrolux gives you 6 and the Belling has 9. The Belling would be more versatile if you ask me.

If you are in Klang Valley, I suggest you take a trip to the outlets to talk to sales personnel about the the quality of the ovens. I learn a lot from them, some sales person are good and very technical and can provide you with sound knowledge of the product that you are interested in. More often than not, they will tell you which product is more reliable cos they would not want you to go back and complain to them. Of course, big shops tend to carry better quality brand names to avoid any after sales problems.

They say Bosch also produces good ovens. I think you will not go wrong with the Electrolux or Belling but I personally will stay away from Rubine. tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2015, 01:53 AM

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@Kshereen
Thanks for the advice, now it much more clear on which oven to buy.

Let me source for the best deal around.
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post Apr 25 2015, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(corinsb @ Apr 25 2015, 01:53 AM)
@Kshereen
Thanks for the advice, now it much more clear on which oven to buy.

Let me source for the best deal around.
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some families have been using Rubine for 7-8 years without failing, some families has been using Beiling and Electrolux and it fails after 1.5 years

important thing is spare parts, for Rubine, you can easily get spare parts and Beling and Electrolux, after certain years, they will just phase off the spare parts and you need to change the whole oven in order to get it work.

another important note, make sure the oven you are purchasing the door can be dismantle for washing access


basically, every electronics item now are depending on your luck

good luck for scouting the deal
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post Apr 25 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(bathe @ Apr 25 2015, 09:35 AM)
some families have been using Rubine for 7-8 years without failing, some families has beentheory 5 ing Beiling and Electrolux and it fails after 1.5 years

important thing is spare parts, for Rubine, you can easily get spare parts and Beling and Electrolux, after certain years, they will just phase off the spare parts and you need to change the whole oven in order to get it work.

another important note, make sure the oven you are purchasing the door can be dismantle for washing access
basically, every electronics item now are depending on your luck

good luck for scouting the deal
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Well, I think it's like getting a car. Would you consider a Honda/Toyota rather than a local car? For some a local car will do enough to travel around (I also drove a local car before). For others, they prefer the stability, security etc of better brands.

It also depends on you usage, if more wear n than then things tend to break down more often. My theory is simple, I buy something that can give me confidence. Any product can have very good specs on paper. After researching online (users review) and going to many shops (I go to at least 10), I made my decision. That is why some people go for Teka even if It is a display unit, just because they have confidence in the product.

Agree on theory that buying things depends on luck. A good car can also be faulty upon delivery. That is why I'm sold on the 5 years warranty. Good luck!

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post Apr 25 2015, 12:58 PM

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Even my BMW only has 2 years warranty while Honda provides 5 years warranty doh.gif

Warranty is not my concern, my concern is spare parts. Most of the time manufacturer gives 5 years warranty exclude wear and tear, so it means it doesn't cover anything after wear and tear and you basically pay extra for nothing other than a paper with 5 years warranty stamped



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post Apr 25 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 25 2015, 12:58 PM)
Even my BMW only has 2 years warranty while Honda provides 5 s warranty doh.gif

Warranty is not my concern, my concern is spare parts. Most of the time manufacturer gives 5 years warranty exclude wsay  and tear, so it means it doesn't cover anything after wear and tear and you basically pay extra for nothing other than a paper with 5 years warranty stamped
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That's why you bought a BMW in the first place right? Bcos you trust its quality and brand name. That is exactly what I'm trying to say about buying thru confidence and not abt what's stated on paper. Like I said I personally shy away from certain brands becos I believe more in other brands.

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QUOTE(kshereen @ Apr 25 2015, 02:18 PM)
That's why you bought a BMW in the first place right? Bcos you trust its quality and brand name. That is exactly what I'm trying to say about buying thru confidence and not abt what's stated on paper. Like I said I personally shy away from certain brands becos I believe more in other brands.
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warranty is nothing nowadays, spare parts is important for EOL products in future
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post Apr 25 2015, 03:29 PM

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Haha ok, everyone has their own opinion. Thanks for sharing yours with us.
For my case, the warranty was a bonus with no extra paid, same price as stated in manufacturer's website. Unless, they already made a deal with manufacturer in order to make the deal look better (might be possible). But personally, I still think BMW still better than local car, no?

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QUOTE(kshereen @ Apr 25 2015, 03:29 PM)
Haha ok, everyone has their own opinion. Thanks for sharing yours with us.
For my case, the warranty was a bonus with no extra paid, same price as stated in manufacturer's website. Unless, they already made a deal with manufacturer in order to make the deal look better (might be possible). But personally, I still think BMW still better than local car, no?
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BMW is a better car but BMW made in China will not be a better car

Malaysia car is better than China made car

same goes to electrical appliances
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post Apr 25 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 25 2015, 05:21 PM)
BMW is a better car but BMW made in China will not be a better car

Malaysia car is better than China made car

same goes to electrical appliances
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Exactly, that's my point! biggrin.gif
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I say it's a matter of preference, budget for most.

European made appliances, I believe in their long-standing performance and stability due to experience. However, there is no basis as to why even china made, japan made or korean made appliances should deserve lesser interest as long as they perform reliably regardless of whether they will last as long as the european ones. So long as they can hold up to 5 years max, that is already good enough.

BMW and Mercs I will consider good stability on the road partly because the body is heavy and steering is stable unlike japanese, korean cars (depends on your driving ability with non european cars) but it is a real pain for maintenace after warranty period because they are european cars, the cost of maintenence is relatively higher in the long run unless one is prepared to upkeep the maintenance costs.

Always pros and cons, so I say, just buy what serves your purpose and nothing more.

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post Apr 25 2015, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(S'aimer @ Apr 25 2015, 06:10 PM)
I say it's a matter of preference, budget for most.

European made appliances, I believe in their long-standing performance and stability due to experience. However, there is no basis as to why even china made, japan made or korean made appliances should deserve lesser interest as long as they perform reliably regardless of whether they will last as long as the european ones. So long as they can hold up to 5 years max, that is already good enough.

BMW and Mercs I will consider good stability on the road partly because the body is heavy and steering is stable unlike japanese, korean cars (depends on your driving ability with non european cars) but it is a real pain for maintenace after warranty period because they are european cars, the cost of maintenence is relatively higher in the long run unless one is prepared to upkeep the maintenance costs.

Always pros and cons, so I say, just buy what serves your purpose and nothing more.
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Well said. That is why I buy a Fotile hood eventhough it is a China brand cos I have confidence in it and it fits my budget.
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post May 2 2015, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(corinsb @ Apr 24 2015, 06:50 PM)
i am in dilemma in choosing the oven now :
1. Electrolux EOB2400AOX RM2299
2. Belling BI60MF RM2199
3. Rubine RBO-AVATA2-70SS RM1899

anyway i am first time oven user and cater for family of 5.
Which will be better?
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Was told that electrolux EOB2400 is made in italy , not sure how true is that . May i know where did u get the price rm2299?
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post May 3 2015, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(telur @ May 2 2015, 11:34 PM)
Was told that electrolux EOB2400 is made in italy , not sure how true is that . May i know where did u get the price rm2299?
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http://m.11street.my/productdetail/electro...-cooking-468918

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post May 3 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(corinsb @ May 3 2015, 06:08 PM)
TMB online ? did you purchase anything from them before ? price is rm2170 only . the prices i got from homedec was 2599 and 2349 LOL
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post May 3 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Antzfield @ Jan 19 2015, 09:49 PM)
Teka warehouse sales in May? is this an annual event? if really so, I will keep this as a reminder in my Calendar and wait for it.

In your humble opinion, is this worth to wait? ie. new unit and huge discount?  blush.gif

what to do, every penny saved will surely helps a lot
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Its May already, anyone know the venue and date for the annual event? Thanks smile.gif
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post May 4 2015, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(corinsb @ May 3 2015, 06:08 PM)
Be extra cautious when buying online especially electrical items. Be sure to ask if it is a display unit especially when the price is too good to be true. If you are willing to pay a bit less for a display unit the it is fine. Else you might be paying original price for a display unit.

I'm telling this based on my recent experience and I have also read about other people's experiences on being sent display units even when they paid the price for new units. It seems like it is a common practice with electrical shops so be sure to ask. When the items arrive, make sure they are sealed and not opened before.

When I enquired at Seloka Sukma, the sales person claimed that their company had bought up all the EOB2400 and other shops that sells the models only have display units. That was why they could give customers special price for the model. Don't trust their words 100%, so be sure to confirm whether the prices quoted are for new units or display ones.

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post May 5 2015, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(kshereen @ May 4 2015, 01:29 AM)
Be extra cautious when buying online especially electrical items. Be sure to ask if it is a display unit especially when the price is too good to be true. If you are willing to pay a bit less for a display unit the it is fine. Else you might be paying original price for a display unit.

I'm telling this based on my recent experience and I have also read about other people's experiences on being sent display units even when they paid the price for new units. It seems like it is a common practice with electrical shops so be sure to ask. When the items arrive, make sure they are sealed and not opened before.

When I enquired at Seloka Sukma, the sales person claimed that their company had bought up all the EOB2400 and other shops that sells the models only have display units. That was why they could give customers special price for the model. Don't trust their words 100%, so be sure to confirm whether the prices quoted are for new units or display ones.
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Yes u are right . I experienced this lately when i bought my kitchen hood from one of the shops in puchong facing main road near tesco . its resealed pack with screw marks . It doesnt come with power cord and not sure this is normal or not . The salesperson insists that is new set and i dint want to argue further . This will be my first and also last time buying from them .

Btw ive placed my deposit for EOB2400 but not from seloka sukma and hope everythin will be okie. I also told them i will only accept sealed unit .

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post May 6 2015, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(telur @ May 5 2015, 09:48 PM)
Yes u are right . I experienced this lately when i bought my kitchen hood from one of the shops in puchong facing main road near tesco . It doesnt come with power cord and not sure this is normal or not . The salesperson insists that is new set and i dint want to argue further . This will be my first and also last time buying from them .If
Btw ive placed my deposit for EOB2400 but not from seloka sukma and hope everythin will be okie. I also told them i will only accept sealed unit .
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It's easy to check for items like TV, it must always show the setup menu for the first time you turn it on. Also check the packet that contains the remote controller/warranty card etc must not be opened before/resealed. Stickers on the unit are also tell-tale signs of it being a display unit.

As for other items, it's a bit hard to tell (since no setup menu). telur, if the shop you buy from has a customer service dept, you show try writing them a formal letter on your complaint. The screw mark is a very obvious sign that it is not a new unit. Pressure them to exchange to a new unit. Talk to their higher management instead of the salesperson. Usually they will be more willing to help resolve your problem. Tough luck if they still insist on not exchanging. At least then we will all boycott the shop. Lucky for me, the shop I bought from were willing to resolve the problem and gave me a new unit instead.

For your new oven, you should normally see it in a polystrene carton sealed with thick cling plastic wrap. I'm not sure if they can resealed it this way, but I think at least the power cord should not be connected yet indicating it wasn't powered up before. Well, not all display units are powered up before but most are. Also, some are not screwed into the cabinet while on display so they might not have screw marks. If you are uncomfortable with the unit, do not accept it and ask the delivery guy to take it back. The delivery guys only deliver what is arranged so it's best to talk to the salesperson or even better, his manager, regarding any disputes.

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