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post Dec 2 2017, 12:41 AM

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Very tempted to buy T92 cause terrain resistance and dispersion... but then I don like the design...

Should I play Charioteer and skip Conway or;
Should I play skip Charioteer and play Conway...

my FV4202 did it again... within 2 hours can destroy more than 45 vehicles... guess time constraint can unleash player's capability...

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post Dec 3 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 2 2017, 06:34 PM)
no exp in both tanks, can't recommend, btw t92 is like the amx elc style sort of tank, if you like fast and agile tank its one of the hardest to hit tank for premium (t92) so you can zoom around the battle field and spot. Price is fairly cheap for brand new tank, but you will be facing a lot of tier 9 and tier 10. Also because you are so light its very easy to flip your tank, like any bump will send you flipping.

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A lot of people try hard to be top in exp today, so winning is easy, the only thing left is out do all your teammate, since dmg always get a lot of exp I switch derp on o-ni, high chance to be top cause I just spam HE on against all the high tier and stay alive.

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Just spent RM65 bought 5 tokens... envy u can play Japanese tanks to survive, My FV4202 and Skorpion G is not easy to stay alive and deal good damage at same time, even my SU100Y only can get 2nd place in XP... Waiting for today's final mission for the remaining 1 tokens...
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post Dec 3 2017, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 3 2017, 11:08 AM)
for japanese tank its one of the most famous "school bully" tanks in the game, for tier 7,9,10. the other tank is the maus series, 8,9,10. but in terms of grainding and enjoyment the japanese line is better because the german line you need to go trough vk30 (p) and tiger (p). Which this days in up to date match you will get slap around like a rag doll in those tanks.

Right now I am in a dilemma as I have just finish grainding enough for either a jpanter 2 or a ferdinand and I'm not sure which one suits my style more.
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Ever since I "drove" the Churchill 3 & AT15a, any vehicle which moving 20 kph is an instant NO-NO to me~ (Japanese heavies is really SLOW)

About the german TD choice, Ferdinand is obvious better choice on papers, better than JPanther 2 as in:

- Armor thickness & distribution & 350 more HP
- view range
- Camo value

While worse in:

- Vehicle hull control & top speed
- terrain/traverse resistance

If I play turretless TD, there are a few things I would like to consider:

1. Gun arc
2. Frontal plating distribution
3. Total HP
4. View range
5. Innate Camo value

Reloacting speed will be my least concern as I always find nearest large cover if I am spotted.

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post Dec 3 2017, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 3 2017, 06:38 PM)
Well you will be surprise to know that japanese heavy aren't that slow, unless you only have the stock engine, if you manage to graind trough the engine while you are on the O-I exp (tier 5) tank then the rest of the three you don't have speed issue, at least for huge tank standard. that is if you are into heavy tank that hits hard and are heavily armored.

I think I have decided to pick jpanter 2 instead, fast, agile, trollish hull down situations. I borrow a friend account to test out both and I feel that ferdinand is a bit more of a mid brawler, and with so many people this days spamming gold if you are seen on a TD its pretty much dead if you can't move away from that spot. Rotating is also slow even though it has a wider angle. where else on the jpanter 2 the rotation is like a decent turret speed even though your arc is pretty limited, the speed is amazing and I find that actually more players are not aware of jpanter 2's slope armor as I constantly gets hit and bounce on the top part of my tank and quite a lot of bounce off gold success, even though its best to avoid getting shot at. I might graind out the ferdi with my jpanter as well but in terms of progression I feel that jpanter 2 is more fun then ferdi, most likely because jpanter 2 was fast and I'm pretty decent at jpanter style at this point.
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Just got my Alpine tiger... gosh it is super face-hugger... can go for pushing match with other Tier 9 heavies...

Any equip and crew advice for Alpine tiger?

I am thinking putting 1 of the female crew into CHINA tank line, but so far no further plan to expand the tank line...
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post Dec 4 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Catnip @ Dec 3 2017, 11:19 PM)
The test server is currently online. Go check the tanks that you are interested in.
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Yup just updated, will try it tonight on Conway/Charioteer/Doombarn/Deathstar/IS7/STRV-103B/212A lolz


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post Dec 4 2017, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Dec 4 2017, 09:53 AM)
play both charioteer and conway till u unlock next tier vehicle.
ur exp, use it to skip the modules lah. gila mau skip whole tier 8 to tier 9  rclxub.gif
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In comparison of SK-G:

Charioteer on papers => I feel it is a long range sniper with high speed rounds (better shell PEN/velocity/camo values/mobility, but worse accuracy, still can compete due to Gun depression & APCR shells)

Conway on papers => Entry peek-kaboom type (Additional 110 damage but in a severe expenses of all gun-handling stats, only better in HP/mobility/view range). half-baked capability on peekaboom & mid range support, but master neither both.

FV4005 => sacrifice everything for good mobility and great gun in peekaboom~, Basically is tier X version of KV-2/SU100Y.

Playing charioteer under premium account I am still ok not to skip it...

but Conway 0.36 dispersion + 850 shell velocity... maybe test server experience may prove me wrong...

SK-G 0.29 dispersion really can get tons of kills, and its 1 of the reason it keep rolling in the silvers.~
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post Dec 4 2017, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Catnip @ Dec 3 2017, 11:19 PM)
The test server is currently online. Go check the tanks that you are interested in.
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Is it normal to have such high ping due to everyone sharing the same server?

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post Dec 4 2017, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Catnip @ Dec 4 2017, 08:13 PM)
Yes, it is normal. Adjust your lead when aiming at moving targets to compensate for latency.
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Tested so far overall I din have much problem on driving Challenger/Charioteer and Conway though...

Since This mid-week discount is good for re-training crews, I shall start on Challenger on last day of the offer...(based on my current available free XP)

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Free premium tank for the Winner country tankers:

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post Dec 5 2017, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Dec 5 2017, 06:36 PM)
Finally. First win in AT15. After 4 games. This is really a WTF tank at stock... A tier 8 TD with a Tier 7 stock gun. You can't change the gun due to suspension load limit and the suspension needs almost 15k of experience points to unlock.. and from 4 games I've played, not many Tier 7 tanks available to feed on. Most I encounter is Tier 9 and 8.
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Rule of thumb for me:

1. Find the tank I am interested
2. Check wiki for anything need to take note when upgrading module
3. Free XP those important module.
4. Free XP the top gun.

Ever since I get Alpine tiger... I feel so soothing cause able to channel my aggressive-ness

1 fight 4 tanks, 1 of the earlier deaths, but able to get top 3 EXP earned...

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post Dec 5 2017, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Dec 5 2017, 08:57 PM)
Nice. I didn't check the wiki when I purchase the AT15... impulse buy due to sale... lol...
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AT15 is still okay, after top gun upgrade... still can fight back... but not AT15a premium tank... its speed is terrible, but gun even worse...
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post Dec 6 2017, 10:02 AM

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So far tested Alpine Tiger for a couple of battles:

Free Premium tanks => Average performance or below (as expected)

The good:
- Decent speed (Off road is a must, and clutch braking should improve its hull turning for quite a bit for flanking/anti-flanking)
- Decent upper plate and great front turret armor, able to face-hug with defender with very little chance to being PEN-thru
- As long as u can keep its lower plate hidden/angling by obstacle/dancing, upper hull plate can only be PENNED frontally by 200 pen or above to reach your ammo rack (means no angling, side scraping is more practical)
- by using side slopes & exposing only the turret and peek outside... U can enjoy tons of bouncing hits sound on your oval-shaped turret
- having 1 of the best camo for among all HTs (camo + repair + BIA is applicable to this tank)
- Will never facing Tier 10 (Tier 9 is hellish enough for this tank's pitiful 250 HEAT PEN)


The bad:
- The gun is limited to facehugging & melee brawling only, due to its bad accuracy, personally feel no point to use VSTAB to compensate it.
- AP shell penentration only 175, you can only bully most MTs/LTs/TDs except Pershings
- 250 PEN Gold rounds is 5600 silvers, this means, you gain NO silver profits if you take this tank against tier 7 & 8 HTs with HEAT gold rounds.
- can get ammo-racked easily without Wet Ammo Rack equipment, Safe Stowage + Wet Rack is highly recommended.

How I view/feel/suggest about this heavy tank:

1. fight HTs => no silver profits, fight MTs/TDs = they use gold rounds against you, pick your path, both are equally hellish

2. Vehicle handling > Camo > Gun handling => For maneuver/flanking against MTs/LTs/TDs, Gun handing improvement is quite pointless IF you are using AP rounds & using HEAT shells on MTs quite wasteful

3. This tank able to take many hits from multiple tanks when reversing into S line & with decent speed can really RAM well when face hugging. Consider putting vehicle impact if you want to rush and facehugging effectively.

Again I must remind this point again:

Alpine Tiger is a frontline support/ flankers
vs HTs with HEAT shells => no silvers
vs MTs with AP rounds => silver profits but got risk being PENNED blindly.

Equipments: Rammers/VSTAB/WetRack/Optics/Vents/Enhanced suspension(side scraping)/toolbox

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post Dec 6 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Dec 6 2017, 10:49 AM)
1 more Pros:
Wont facing Tier 10
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haha added to my post.

After these tries, I can confirm using AP ammo with this gun is super pitiful & crying accuracy & I am looking for another way to earn better silvers.

Next trials will be on its suspension and vehicle control:

1. Off-road + clutch braking, Sixth sense + BIA, rest all repairs
2. Rammer(optional)/Enhanced suspension/toolbox/Vents/Wet Rack
3. See how far I can push this tank's speed & traverse for a flanking role.
4. Speed VS track repair speed (need to gauge from Equipments/skills)

Having a decent heavy tank to flank enemies/behind might yield a better outcome?
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post Dec 6 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(damnkids01 @ Dec 6 2017, 10:56 AM)
another one.. DOUBLE CREDITS
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Double credits?

I thought its just 50% more silvers? while the bonus mostly offset by expensive HEAT shells
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post Dec 7 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 6 2017, 05:20 PM)
This tank you need to know where to go base on early judgement, at the start of the match, if your side got other tanky or deadly tank, try to assist them, bait enemy high tier to fire at you will help securing a HT battle win, if they don't aim at you, go a little bit aggressive and force them. If you have HT team with thick armor use them as cover. If you look at the list and there is not much TD or high pen MT go for those instead, most of the time when you are in the frontline do a short push forward then reverse like dancing, 3 short step front 1 back step to original position make enemy very hard to shoot at your lower plate. the 175 pen is not good against enemy face to face, its always used to flank shots to the side and back. I would say this is kind of a recon tank, its strength is to bully weaker tank and bait shots from top tier tank.

It would be a mistake to lead the frontline with this tank unless you are very skill at angling your frontal position to bounce shot.
yes, this tank earn more credit then other premium, confirm by dying and doing nothing on both skoripon G and this tank.
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Dancing and baiting shots for more than couple of minutes, is quite boring to me... and its pike nose front hull design... can do only half/hull angling to hide the inner pike side OR side scraping... Either how the front hull will be PEN by more than 220mm shots...

The more I play this tank, the more I feel I need to max off-road driving + crutch braking asap to make use of its flanking speed for better contribution.

Since it earns way more credits than other premium, my method of spamming this tank without getting boring is keep trying to flank the frontline/support on the side as much as possible before dying, while using ONLY the AP rounds.

Using more than 8 HEAT rounds 250 pen will almost always result in no net profit/rugi...

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post Dec 8 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 7 2017, 01:50 PM)
True, this type of tank is what they call a magic bullet tank, it takes some used to to master bouncing shells, much like is-3 and is-7 .... many people say its bouncy, but what makes it bouncy isn't the armor, its the turret and angling at some point, when enemy shoot if your pike aren't directly against the direction high chance it will go trough, a slight change in direction can bounce even 311 pen.

The way to earn good credits with this tiger is to catch enemy off guard and pump as many shells into their side and back as you can, the alpha dmg is very good and if you can land few shots you will be already earning few match worth of credits. In very very rare situation you would ever spend HEAT unless you absolutely have to ....... something like maybe last tank vs last tank and enemy tank has thick armor, or taking out super important tanky tank to be able to crush their weak support.

I would say see this as a perspective of training close combat, its a good tank to train on with close encounters. From time to time you will face players that is seemingly invincible with this sort of tank, which means they have a lot of experience in driving this type of tank, you will need to be able to get into their mind set on how the tank works in order to work out a way to deal with them. Simply having high pen gun aren't going to dispatch them at all unless he is surrounded.

I'm speaking base on the perspective of having played those tank and bounce skorpion g's bullets even against 311 bullets. And also deal with this type of enemy as a skorpion g. Once you get the hang of it you will immediately know if enemy is experience or a freshmen.

I remember there is a very pro player on this type of tank once told me that even though your pike can bounce bullet if you can try not to show them at all, expert player would only present the turret to enemy and only show body when there is no dig down option. But that being said its much harder to do that in reality.
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Yesterday having a good game streaks, able to intercept HTs' sides and rear within cities, having 70% of the light tank speed does helps a lot (Thanks to in progress offroad driving), silvers keep rolling into my pockets~

Alpine tiger's top speed is just the engine speed limit, with fresh crews, it will almost never hit past 40kmh even on flat ground... With 70% Off road I able to hit 45kmh consistently on soft terrain...

With such speed, Alpine can direct take shortcut and rush into some choke points and hold the position better than LT/MTs, it can further pressure the flanking sides by simply charging frontally, since not much MTs/TDs can chill and PEN your Alpine when u rushing in high speed.

Now next my Alpine need Clutch braking and BIA+vents for further hull control in order to compete fast MTs/LTs/TDs... it might sounds weird using HT to play like this, but 175 PEN gun is beyond despair...

Just bought Challenger and used it on couple of battles: (BIA + Camo maxed with some skills on progress)

1. Control slightly lesser than FV4202
2. Speed acceleration much better than FV4202 & SKG
3. 300 damage 30 pdr can let enemy feel way more painful than FV4202 gun
4. Very odd avenger turret hull, 200mm armor at the REAR of the turret
5. The experience is like in the middle between Skorpion G & FV4202, but definitely better experience than both especially on slopes (SKG cant have 10 degree depression on slopes, FV4202 alpha damage too low and cant overmatch STRV-S1)
6. Facing only up to tier 9, thats make a lot difference than SKG/FV4202
7. The only downside is, 900hp with little armor thus cant even do minimum brawl, and its not premium vehicle

I expect Charioteer performance will be better than this Challenger, Conway might be worse experience than SKG due to dispersion & lower shell speed

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post Dec 8 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 10:29 AM)
As a general rule stay far behind the line with british TD, if you are anywhere close to mid or the frontline any HE shell can 1 shot you, even if they don't any dmg to your gun or turret you are as good as dead. Also, if you have not collect the free female crew the give you better collect now, once they roll the new patch your female crew will be gone forever if you didn't collect it.

Put her in that nation you most played with, and maybe save her for future t9/t10 on that line.
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Zomg I still have 2 female crew ready to recruit... but the countries I am playing so far:

USSR : SU100Y & KV-2 (1 female commander allocated to KV-2)
UK : FV4202, AC 4 Ex, and Challenger (free female commander allocated to challenger)
German : Skorpion G (0 female)
China : Alpine tiger (0 female)

Should I put female crew on premium tanks instead? those 2 female crews I got is from Personal Mission, will they be gone after patch update?

How I wish I can trade my FV4202 to Primo Victoria~

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post Dec 8 2017, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 02:51 PM)
the female crew put in premium is the best if you have not decide which tank they are going, but remember it must be the premium tank that support that nation you wanted to play, if you put them in chinese premium they can only relocate within chinese line ........ so if you want them to be future ready for other nation tank don't put them in those country that isn't in the same line country as your grainding tank.

After patch rolling out they are going to wipe all unclaim female crew from your gift box, I'm pretty certain the news is true because it came from reputable WoT gaming channel. So to be safe claim first, if not you will be submitting ticket to auto bots hopping to get them reply by wot later.
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JUst read WOT asia forum, some reliable source said that Defender wont be on sales in near future, including Advent Calendar/Dec sales...

Finally can rest my heart and fully focus to grind for FV4005...

About the female crew assignment, any good suggestion on some other nations' tank?

to me female crew is a great premium starter crew with free BIA + Sixth sense as commander.

My current idea:

-3 female crews for Sweedish TD (maybe 1 for STRV first?)
- 1 female driver for Alpine Tiger, directly complete Offroad + Clutch as starting crew... HT not really need Sixth sense as badly as other type from beginning.

Among all types, my garage still lacking LTs to complete the missions.... any recommendation?

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post Dec 8 2017, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 08:46 PM)
Sweedish TD you will have to hit tier 6 before it starts to few good, tier 5 and below especially tier 5 (ikv 103) is one of the worst tank in many situation. It plays nothing like tier 6 and above, troll gun and dreadful to just try to graind. Save up to skip that garbage, then tier 6 would be much more enjoyable. I'm not sure that you would want to buy that tier 8 premium sweedish tank or not, cause if you do the tier 8,9,10 TD won't be as enjoyable anymore cause you already explored similar style and gameplay. But no doubt they are one of the most accurate snipers out there.

as for female on alpine I think maybe not, cause her BiA is given when collect, if you want a different perk you will have to reset, that reset will eat like 20% off and you have to train her back up to 100% ..... unless you are grainding the chinese tank. .... as for just making her to graind premium only it feel like a little waste, german and russian had the most tank that sometimes require extra, and maybe some from amarican and british too, I would suggest you put your gifted character into a nation that you would most likely spend time to graind out.

LT depends on what you enjoy most, the basic is to try luchs from german tier 4 and AMX elc from french tier 5 ..... both are pretty popular speed and small tank. The difference is a lot of the light tank are pretty much playing a scout role, but the french one introduce auto loader, pretty deadly if you are very good at hiding and pinching enemy.
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Sweedish TD:
1. previously I thought of buying STRV-S1 when it was RM130++ but then its armor only can bounce 90mm calibre and below, I might as well as using an UDES with the same gun ? 30mm is very different from 40mm armor when it comes to overmatch...

2. Will definitely skip until UDES in order to play the Siege mode TD, can use that RM130++ for premium account for grinding instead of buying STRV-S1

3. STRV-103B is 1 of my tier X goal definitely, after FV4005

About Alpine tiger:

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China version I checked online seems having X2 crew XP... will test further...

only 50% more crew XP as usual... I wonder how they able to estimate 100% bonus silvers from alpine tiger...

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If such mission reward unclaimed, will it disappear when new patch updated? I already used my free gifted female crew on CHallenger.

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post Dec 9 2017, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 10:42 PM)
Female crew from mission can take your own sweet time, they won't disappear ...... the only one that will disappear is the one on your gift box that every time you log in they congradulate you that one.
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Somehow I cleared the HT-15 with Alpine tiger... how do i reach 4000hp damage caused/received/blocked?

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now I have 3 female crews ready... putting them into UDES to grind tier X IKEA TD seems good?
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post Dec 20 2017, 01:36 PM

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Been while since last time update here:

1. So far Advent Calendar Day-19, haven spend a single penny on tank
2. Unlocked & bought Bishop on 50% discount.
3. Currently holding 360K XP & waiting for 1:45 conversion rate offer.
4. Grinding Challenger/Alpine Tiger/SK-G

Anyone here can give some suggestion, which line should I choose for my first tier X tank?

UDES 03 => STRV-103B line (I have 3 female crews ready, can start with BIA + camo + SS instantly)

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Charioteer => FV4005 line (turreted high velocity APCR sniper transitioned into medium-close range peekaboo, the crew are BIA & camo ready)

Both line boasting high PEN gun and yet play very differently.

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