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 The Rolex / Tudor Watches Club V1, Is time to have this now?

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Everdying
post Nov 3 2015, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 3 2015, 10:23 PM)
I agree that one can sell for higher price in places like eBay & mudah.my for instance, compare to selling it to the luxury watch dealer here in MSIA (which they clearly want to make significant profit per watch)... However, one faces the risk of being conned/scammed (exposed to fraud) when selling/advertising online...; on the other hand, selling to the dealer (by going to their shop) such as MilanClassic or WingWahWatch is guarantied to be safe.
well, the last 3 pieces i sold were all overseas...close to rm50k value...and only posted on the watchuseek.com forum.
it was on local market for quite awhile until the currency shot up, so making the overseas market more tempting.
easily got about 10% extra after covering paypal fees of 4.4% commision and the shipping which was only rm100 or so each.

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post Nov 4 2015, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 3 2015, 10:23 PM)
I agree that one can sell for higher price in places like eBay & mudah.my for instance, compare to selling it to the luxury watch dealer here in MSIA (which they clearly want to make significant profit per watch)... However, one faces the risk of being conned/scammed (exposed to fraud) when selling/advertising online...; on the other hand, selling to the dealer (by going to their shop) such as MilanClassic or WingWahWatch is guarantied to be safe.

Well, anyway I paid a visit to Total Watch Gallery & CYT Watch in Berjaya Times Square earlier today...; To be fair, the boss of Total Watch was a nice person (yesterday I went there but they were closing); so today the boss took a close look at my Rolex & gave me quite a reasonable quotation (he gave a call to his other business partner who wasn't present today to confirm the price). After that, I visited CYT Watch + another 3 more luxury watch dealers (with names I couldn't really remember; but I believe it was "Swiss Time/Swiss Hour Watches", "Wah Sing Gallery", & another luxury watch shop with a Chinese name; all located on the same 6th level of Times Square); so far everything was more positive today, & some of the dealers were somewhat professional/meticulous with my watch. (The dealer of one shop forgot to remove the extra links he added to my Rolex's Jubilee Bracelet during the inspection process; I also didn't know anything until I checked my watch later & realized that it is suddenly very loose on my wrist; I still have my extra Jubilee links in my box, which I removed last time...) biggrin.gif
Any idea where it is located? (Feel free to provide the address or website).

Thanks.

If you are referring to Berjaya Times Square, then all of it (luxury watch shops) are located on the 6th floor it seems (I must have already checked them all out smile.gif)...

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it's the one in the center. opposite the lift. milanclassic they sell bags.
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QUOTE(nonexno @ Nov 4 2015, 12:18 AM)
it's the one in the center. opposite the lift. milanclassic they sell bags.
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milanclassic in BTS got watches also.
i walked in once to see a speedmaster, totally misrepresented in the pics they posted on their website.
on the website said good condition etc, all watches with 1-yr warranty etc.
walked in, see the hands got corrosion, dial got corrosion, then they said no warranty.
i never walked into milan classic ever again after that.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 3 2015, 11:39 PM)
well, the last 3 pieces i sold were all overseas...close to rm50k value...and only posted on the watchuseek.com forum.
it was on local market for quite awhile until the currency shot up, so making the overseas market more tempting.
easily got about 10% extra after covering paypal fees of 4.4% commision and the shipping which was only rm100 or so each.
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Then that is great for you. icon_rolleyes.gif

For me personally, I feel skeptical/uneasy to deal via PayPal... I have heard about sellers been abused by buyers (e.g. buyers purposely trying to abuse sellers by filing a claim against seller to PayPal about item un-received, & then claimed for a full refund from PayPal; which the buyers always win this case 99% of the time...) (Also what IF the buyer files a claim against the seller that the item was not as described, & then returns the buyer a fake/replica/clone version of the genuine watch...?) (PayPal also have policies in place to protect the buyer for items "claimed as replica"; how's the seller going to protect himself if his item was originally genuine?) All in all, PayPal seems to have policies in place to protect the buyer from matters like this (& some buyers are known to take advantage of PayPal's "buyer's protection" policy against the seller to claim back refund)...

For mudah.my; I was also almost been scammed by a Nigerian buyer (so cunning & real as to be able to send me professional e-mails from PayPal (PayPal clone e-mails); PayPal formally notifying me that the buyer's money will be released into my account once the shipping agent company has come over to my address to collect the buyer's item... (It was a scam from this Nigerian buyer that I nearly fall into; because once the item has been collected from me, it will be "bye bye" forever...; there would be no way to get it back; & all the fake phone numbers & fake e-mail address will no longer be in service...)

So because of this, I would rather sell my Rolex to the physical dealer shops over here for less (because I can be rest assured that there would be no more troubles/disputes & I will definitely receive my payment - straightforward & guaranteed)...

QUOTE(nonexno @ Nov 4 2015, 12:18 AM)
it's the one in the center. opposite the lift. milanclassic they sell bags.
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Maybe it is "Swiss Time Watches/Swiss Hour Watches" something; I'm not very certain too...

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 4 2015, 12:27 AM)
milanclassic in BTS got watches also.
i walked in once to see a speedmaster, totally misrepresented in the pics they posted on their website.
on the website said good condition etc, all watches with 1-yr warranty etc.
walked in, see the hands got corrosion, dial got corrosion, then they said no warranty.
i never walked into milan classic ever again after that.
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That's unfortunate...

Because I like milanclassic for their exquisite variety of luxury watches actually (that the other dealers does not have)...; such as the following one (which I am targeting to get)...; drool.gif

http://www.milanclassic.net/goods.php?id=21409

Price just gone up by extra MYR1k just not long ago...

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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 4 2015, 02:37 AM)
That's unfortunate...

Because I like milanclassic for their exquisite variety of luxury watches actually (that the other dealers does not have)...; such as the following one (which I am targeting to get)...; drool.gif

http://www.milanclassic.net/goods.php?id=21409

Price just gone up by extra MYR1k just not long ago...

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alot of their watches got missing items. so i would be careful. if it looks new, probably polished badly and not much value.
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Anyone know where to send for polishing? Especially with flute bezel.
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QUOTE(JPSB @ Nov 5 2015, 03:10 PM)
Anyone know where to send for polishing? Especially with flute bezel.
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Pm or ss? Suggest only polish once every 20 or 30 years
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QUOTE(nonexno @ Nov 5 2015, 06:12 PM)
Pm or ss? Suggest only polish once every 20 or 30 years
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SS case with YG on bezel (fluted) & crown. Is 7019/3 to be exact.
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QUOTE(JPSB @ Nov 6 2015, 01:46 PM)
SS case with YG on bezel (fluted) & crown. Is 7019/3 to be exact.
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Bring back to rolex. Ask for light polish. Flute don't polish. Don't polish crown n bracelet logo
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post Nov 8 2015, 09:55 AM

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One of a kind Tudor.

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post Nov 8 2015, 08:16 PM

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post Nov 9 2015, 06:40 PM

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Today I went to the Rolex service center in Menara Dion to have my Rolex timepiece verified (because it was for my buyer actually); as I sat in there for about an hour, I saw quite a handful of customers coming in & out (one was probably wearing a MYR90K+ piece); but most interestingly was a customer who looked to be a European man; I just saw him requesting for a receipt for his Rolex watch, but Rolex SC claimed that his Rolex is a fake; then the customer requested for more details, & the Rolex technician came out to explain why his Rolex is not a genuine/original one; the European man looked puzzled & worried, but it seems that Rolex SC couldn't do anything about it (perhaps because the Rolex watch does not even have a serial number as I heard); the European man said that he got the watch from Paris... (I am not certain what is going on, but it was certainly quite an eye-opener for a Rolex 1st timer like me anyway.)

Thankfully my Rolex watch is claimed by the Rolex SC to be 100% genuine/original (the verification process took about half-an-hour to complete; my buyer paid for the fee 1st); he brought the watch from me immediately after that (& I returned him the verification fee). This is my very 1st time COD with a customer & moreover it was for a Rolex watch.

Rolex SC did asked whether the box also needs to be verified for authenticity as well, but my buyer only wanted the watch verified.

It was an interesting experience for me.

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maybe there was a possibility the serial number was removed? some grey market do that so it cannot be traced back to original shop.
unless rolex opened up and then said his movement was also fake, then that customer cannot argue anymore.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 9 2015, 06:45 PM)
maybe there was a possibility the serial number was removed? some grey market do that so it cannot be traced back to original shop.
unless rolex opened up and then said his movement was also fake, then that customer cannot argue anymore.
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I heard the Rolex SC stating that "they do not issue customers receipt for their watch because they are a SC & not a retailer"; but the customer kept insisting it seems, but the Rolex SC was firm about it; anyway they offered to "trace" the Serial-Number of that customer's Rolex watch, but it turned out later that the customer's watch was deemed to be not genuine/original (it didn't have a SN + numerous other tell tale signs that it is definitely not genuine; as I heard). From the looks of it, maybe the customer is trying to sell the watch but his buyer is requesting for a receipt, or maybe the customer brought a "fake" Rolex watch without knowing (& got a nasty surprise at the Rolex SC)... (The customer went on to query about advance investigation methods I was just hearing lol...)

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oh, thought receipt for authentication fees...
maybe hes a seller and trying to prove to potential buyers that his is grade A / 99% like ori tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 9 2015, 07:06 PM)
I heard the Rolex SC stating that "they do not issue customers receipt for their watch because they are a SC & not a retailer"; but the customer kept insisting it seems, but the Rolex SC was firm about it; anyway they offered to "trace" the Serial-Number of that customer's Rolex watch, but it turned out later that the customer's watch was deemed to be not genuine/original (it didn't have a SN + numerous other tell tale signs that it is definitely not genuine; as I heard). From the looks of it, maybe the customer is trying to sell the watch but his buyer is requesting for a receipt, or maybe the customer brought a "fake" Rolex watch without knowing (& got a nasty surprise at the Rolex SC)... (The customer went on to query about advance investigation methods I was just hearing lol...)
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Box also can verify?
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QUOTE(nonexno @ Nov 10 2015, 10:59 AM)
Box also can verify?
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ya, real or fake box can tell difference...enough links out there to read.
since sometimes sellers only get the watch piece itself from their sources...and u got buyers who want 'full set'...so some sellers are willing to dupe just to get more money as its a 'full set'.
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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 9 2015, 06:40 PM)
Today I went to the Rolex service center in Menara Dion to have my Rolex timepiece verified (because it was for my buyer actually); as I sat in there for about an hour, I saw quite a handful of customers coming in & out (one was probably wearing a MYR90K+ piece); but most interestingly was a customer who looked to be a European man; I just saw him requesting for a receipt for his Rolex watch, but Rolex SC claimed that his Rolex is a fake; then the customer requested for more details, & the Rolex technician came out to explain why his Rolex is not a genuine/original one; the European man looked puzzled & worried, but it seems that Rolex SC couldn't do anything about it (perhaps because the Rolex watch does not even have a serial number as I heard); the European man said that he got the watch from Paris... (I am not certain what is going on, but it was certainly quite an eye-opener for a Rolex 1st timer like me anyway.)

Thankfully my Rolex watch is claimed by the Rolex SC to be 100% genuine/original (the verification process took about half-an-hour to complete; my buyer paid for the fee 1st); he brought the watch from me immediately after that (& I returned him the verification fee). This is my very 1st time COD with a customer & moreover it was for a Rolex watch.

Rolex SC did asked whether the box also needs to be verified for authenticity as well, but my buyer only wanted the watch verified.

It was an interesting experience for me.
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does it cost anything to verify the authenticity of the watch? appreciate your kind input. thanks.

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