I bought 5 tiger nerite snails because it is the only ones available. Zebra out of stock. However they doesn't look like tiger snails. Two of them just dark brown with no marking.

Above images are the same snail. These are another 4 snails.





These 2 take EMCO pretty seriously.

One of them have been trying to escape twice. For the last time I put it near the driftwood. The snail climb on the driftwood & stay there.

Out of 5, one doesn't move at all. When inspect, the trap door did open & close, so it is alive. For now I put it in my stable tank. Others when they find their hiding spot, they stay there since yesterday.

I read many people get the same experience where nerite snails hibernate/sleep long time like days before it start moving around. My seller also told me the same thing.

They did live for 4 days in sealed plastic bag with water before they arrived to me yesterday. I can imagine the stress they have to endured. So they might want to rest little bit.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Apr 1 2020, 12:35 PM

Since your tank still new, most likely what happen is your plants are stunted in growth because deficiency in some nutrients & at the same time other nutrients are abandonly available. Algae take advantage of this situation. Usually shrimps & snails will help in this situation while your plants recover. However because MCO it is difficult to get shrimps & snails. Even my snails that I got during MCO doesn't look healthy, one already dead. I can see white spots & cracks on their shell. They have to live in sealed packaging for 4 days before they arrived to me.

If you have algae, don't wait 1 week. Clean as much as you can & do 50% at least water change 2 to 3 times a week. Removed organic matter as much as you can. Hopefully this will stunted the algae while your plants recover. When I setup my first tank, I managed to get two albino corydoras fish. They are pretty good in eating the organic debris from died algae. If you have extra plants, add it in your tank to replace the dead ones.

Pleco is not efficient in eating algae but they did good job in keeping my driftwood & rocks clean. I have albino pleco.

Try order some amano shrimps & nerite snails online. There are several local online store available. If you have shop near you that sell shrimps & snails you can try call them & go pick up in front of their store.

BTW, did you plan originally to have low tech or high tech setup? Low tech have no CO2 injection (CO2 come from the soil) while high tech have CO2 injection. That's the only difference.

If you can't get anything for now, clean & change the water frequently. At least this hopefully can help your plants recover. Depending on the plants requirement, try shorten the lighting period. These should help for the time being.

Good luck.

Like others said, angelfish will eat shrimps. You should re-home the fish especially I read it eat anything that fits into their mouth. Btw, amano shrimps & nerite snails are the most recommended for algae control.

If the stores near you can ship to you via courier like Pos Laju, I think it will arrived to you faster. I got my nerite snails from aquatic haus. Since you nearer, I think it wouldn't be any problem with the snails. You can order via their Facebook & do not forget to ask about their DOA policy for shipped aquatic life.

You also do need to do you your part in cleaning the algae though. Algae eater can only do so much in the case algae already blooming. You can use soft toothbrush to scrub the green algae layer on the leaves. The layer can prevent the plants from photosynthesising & can kill the plant in the process.

After you already taking care algae problem, I recommend getting albino bristlenose pleco because they do not grow too big & pretty good in keeping driftwood & rocks look clean. Bottom feeder like corydoras (ikan tikus) & ghost shrimps also good to get because they eat left over food & organic matter. Just make sure you didn't get the long arm ghost shrimps aka riceland prawn because they like to kill & eat small fish. Owh yeah, the corydoras I used to have is albino ones. The albino pleco & corydoras are so beautiful to me.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Apr 6 2020, 11:22 AM

3 nerite snails have died. This is so frustrating.

arithenicktern is that Ludwigia sp? Is that only plant alive after the algae attack?

Regarding the wrong fish delivered, issue I can not believe misidentification by that shop. Definitely need to blacklist that shop. In my issue, out of 5 tiger nerite snails that I bought, 3 died; 1 died in tank#1 & 2 died in tank#2. Fortunately 2 still alive in tank#1. When they arrived, their shell doesn't look healthy, white spots & scratches on their shell. I informed to the seller about the dead snails but he keep blaming on the minerals in the water. It turned out he is referring to water hardness. Well, firstly I don't use RO water & secondly, I do water change regularly. So it is impossible that my water getting soft. Unfortunately this is the risk getting livestock online; wrong fish delivered, sick, etc.

Well of course but in case CAE vs SAE, you can tell which is which.

In my case, the seller actually the way how he say it, the trace minerals like magnesium & calcium are very low, like almost depleted, that's why the snails died. He keep saying minerals but when he mentioned gh & kh that's when I know he is talking about water hardness. I told him I have fish & shrimp too, they're doing fine & I also do water change regularly, so the water hardness is maintained. I thought shrimps are more sensitive than snails, is it not? Also water hardness doesn't kill fish/shrimps/snails right away right? (I mean if they already acclimated first before putting in new tank using water drip process)

This post has been edited by kizwan: Apr 10 2020, 01:00 PM

800 ppm, that is 44 dGH if I calculated correctly. Isn't that too high, is it?

You didn't use water conditioner? For minerals, you probably got if from substrate, rocks, etc (or if you're using commercial remineralizer product) but how about ammonia & nitrate? Regular water change will prevent ammonia spike but you know just in case, if you use water conditioner (good one), it will take care any accidental spike.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Apr 10 2020, 03:20 PM

I have hair algae problem before in my 2nd tank. Other than removing them manually, one member at planted tank Forum suggest me higher dosage of flourish excel like 2x 3x more & this is done during light off, otherwise algae will use it. He did warn me that some plant like Anacharis likely melt. I don't have & did not buy flourish yet, so I can't try myself.

Live bearer fish & ghost shrimp are supposedly eat hair algae. I only have one ghost shrimp & it doesn't eat a lot of hair algae on its own. I have limited number of ghost shrimp because most either got eaten by larger shrimps or died when jumping out of the tank. I have 3 ghost shrimps left in first tank & I hesitated to put them in second tank. Even though they are cheap but my LFS not always have ready stock for them. I have many live bearer fish but I didn't try to put some in my 2nd tank because I have guppies in it. Live bearer like to bully guppies for some reason. Anyway, after countless times I removed the hair algae followed by big water change, I don't have hair algae anymore but I still have green algae which is the reason why I ordered nerite snails to get it under control while I try ti correct whatever is wrong in my 2nd tank.

I was told amano shrimps & nerite snails should take care hair algae. If they don't, I don't know. Probably there is not enough shrimps & snails. For nerite snails, one for every 10 gallons right?

It have been 3 days since this happened & I'm still speechless. When I was 9 years old in the 80s, I will be scolded & punished if I did anything wrong & I wouldn't do it again in the future. WTF is going on with parenting nowadays? Even though sanitizer generally safe but if you swallow it, it can cause alcohol poisoning. So whenever you see any child playing with hand sanitizer, scold them otherwise they won't learn.

Usually I heard our tap water is soft but I don't know the actual gh. P

Is non-transparent plastic container alright too? If yes you can go to 2 ringgit or 99sen stores. They sell them quite cheap.

GH is the measure the amount of salts dissolved in the water, particularly calcium & magnisium. If hard water, GH would be high which mean there will be a lot of calcium & magnesium. If you have magnesium defeciency, that means your water in the tank is soft. How often you do water change?

Didn't flourish contain calcium & magnesium too?

Look like I need to dose potassium too because my plants starting to show deficiency.

I think you meant KH, carbonate/karbonate hardness, protective barrier that protect pH. GH is general hardness or water hardness, measure the amount of dissolved salt particularly calcium & magnesium.

terrie
If your plants showing magnesium deficiency, then you need to dose magnesium. Also the proper way is to test water in your tank. The trace minerals like calcium & magnesium are consumed by your plant & fish. GH can get low because of this.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Apr 22 2020, 07:32 PM

terrie

You can use this as guideline because I believe all states use same water treatment regime.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24...in_Kuala_Lumpur

This post has been edited by kizwan: Apr 23 2020, 02:40 PM

Yeah, before buy, ask for their DOA policy. I don't think it is good idea to buy any livestock during MCO. I'm afraid they can stuck longer on transit.

Water current too strong? Can you post a short video of your tank?

That is a lot of turbulence in the water. It will disturb the substrate & this will make water always cloudy. Too much ripple on the surface also will only make CO2 escape from the water faster. Not good for your plant. You want slow water current where most you should see is your plant gracefully moving back & forth. Not violently like in the video. Do ejet allow you to control the water flow?

If you still can see water movement in the water then it is still too strong. I'm not worried about the pump but the fish, likely to die due to exhaustion.